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Hi All - I listened to an excellent postcast recently on the development of the South Atlantic- think it was a few months old. Fascinating and excellent work. My one slight worry was that the developer spoke about the desire to get all the detail showing during low level helo passes … I was wondering what impact that might have on performance - and whether that impact might be felt by jet pilots. The videos look fabulous, but I wonder what degree of optimisation is done / needs to be done? I know the recent Marianna islands release from ED was quite stuttery in places, particularly in VR, before several optimisation passes were done. Thanks for all the hard work.


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That would be my biggest worry too.
I fly exclusively in VR and Marianas is still unplayable for me. And I don´t want to make "special" graphics settings for single maps.

I think, I´ll wait for a couple of reviews before buying the map ...

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For the Falklands themselves, they're quite barren, and there's only a few areas that would need to be populated with any objects at all (mostly concentrated around Stanley and Mount Pleasant), so it should only really be terrain mesh and textures, so I'm expecting performance to be far better than say for instance, Guam, where objects are extremely dense.


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My computer is old now, with only a GTX 970 card.  The Caucasus, Persian Gulf, Nevada, Normandy and Channel maps all still work fine for me.  The newer maps look a lot, lot better, and I'm happy that they exist.  If I want to buy and enjoy them, I'll have to seriously upgrade my computer, which was bought new in 2014.  Considering the number of maps which still work really well for lower spec machines, I think ED are doing the right thing by introducing stellar quality maps which will require new machines today.  They even released the free Marianas map which we can use to test if our computer is up to spec for the new maps, before we purchase.  Soon enough, these maps will be obtainable and useable by all anyway, as hardware tech moves on.


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On 1/20/2022 at 4:55 PM, Northstar98 said:

For the Falklands themselves, they're quite barren, and there's only a few areas that would need to be populated with any objects at all (mostly concentrated around Stanley and Mount Pleasant), so it should only really be terrain mesh and textures, so I'm expecting performance to be far better than say for instance, Guam, where objects are extremely dense.

 

I guess the lack of things such as trees does potentially open up the possibilty of using higher quality objects eleswhere though and possibly even more detailed terrain tiles?. Like you Im hoping for decent performance as a result of the reduction in trees although Im sure there will be mainland locations less barren. 

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Id like to know that anybody tested it in VR mode, how its going?

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2 hours ago, C_W_S said:

My computer is old now, with only a GTX 970 card.  The Caucasus, Persian Gulf, Nevada, Normandy and Channel maps all still work fine for me.  The newer maps look a lot, lot better, and I'm happy that they exist.  If I want to buy and enjoy them, I'll have to seriously upgrade my computer, which was bought new in 2014.  Considering the number of maps which still work really well for lower spec machines, I think ED are doing the right thing by introducing stellar quality maps which will require new machines today.  They even released the free Marianas map which we can use to test if our computer is up to spec for the new maps, before we purchase.  Soon enough, these maps will be obtainable and useable by all anyway, as hardware tech moves on.

 

This is a really good point, and I fully agree. If I want/expect the maps to continue improving in quality/texture/damage model especially for an improved ground war experience, I need to do my part and ensure I have a machine that can handle it.

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On 1/19/2022 at 7:15 AM, Eugel said:

I think, I´ll wait for a couple of reviews before buying the map ...

And here I am, not following my own advice 😄

Good news is, the (VR) perfomance is nowhere near as bad as on the Marianas map. I´d even say it is very good, unless there are more than a dozen or so houses on the screen ...

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My GPU is an older GTX-1070ti and at a pretty high resolution (3440x1440) I get between 30 and 60 fps depending on the map zone I am, I'd say that it has better performance than Marianas and about the same as Syria ... but I'm really happy exploring the Map, started by checking my own country, at Torres del Paine national park:

 

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On 5/13/2022 at 2:45 AM, YoYo said:

Id like to know that anybody tested it in VR mode, how its going?

So. Top tier system 12900k/3090, VR G2... Its "ok"... In the boonies 90fps... Near most "settlements" like 45-65 fps. A few of the bigger settlements on the argentine mainland its worse (i.e. less than 45 fps). 

Mind you most other maps are like 90fps most of the time in SP with the same settings. Syria gets into the 45-65 region sometimes in places like damascus. That being said none of these settlements are anywhere the size of damascus.

IDK how performance scales to lower level GFX/CPU tho.

 

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55 minutes ago, Harlikwin said:

So. Top tier system 12900k/3090, VR G2... Its "ok"... In the boonies 90fps... Near most "settlements" like 45-65 fps. A few of the bigger settlements on the argentine mainland its worse (i.e. less than 45 fps). 

Mind you most other maps are like 90fps most of the time in SP with the same settings. Syria gets into the 45-65 region sometimes in places like damascus. That being said none of these settlements are anywhere the size of damascus.

IDK how performance scales to lower level GFX/CPU tho.

 

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3 hours ago, YoYo said:

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 Może jak DCS przejdzie na Vulcan’a to będzie lepiej, póki co procesory z lepszą wydajnością jednowątkową zapewniają więcej fps niż lepsza karta graficzna. ED mógłby i pewnie coś tam robi aby DCS wykorzystywał bardziej dostępne zasoby CPU, ideałem byłoby aby wykorzystywał do 32 rdzeni 64 wątków. Jako iż DCS jest już z nami tyle czasu i pewnie jeszcze co najmniej drugie tyle jeszcze przed nami, koszt napisania (pewnie od nowa) silnika gry aby w pełni korzystał z zasobów systemowych byłby opłacalny.

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VR for me is great , hasnt dropped below 50-60 fps anyway yet its better than the Marianna's but thats to be expected with the vegetation it has where fauklands doesnt have much.

need to fly round south America a bit to see what its like its a bigg map

so far i reckon its an awesome map the Razbam guys did great, admittedly ive got a high end system .

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Awesome VR performance in this map and it’s huge and very beautiful in certain areas. Looking forward in trying it on a full blown mission with a lot of static objects ect. But just alone it runs great and very smooth. 
Great job Razbam !

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Don't use VR, but I feel the drag of performance once getting close to cities or/and especially some of the runways.  I'll admit to being surprised, given the wind-swept nature of many of these areas that performance drags so much.  I think I had unrealistic expectations that because the map would be more "empty" than others, that performance would be substantially better.   Hoping for some improvements/optimizations as time goes on.  It's still beta, so plenty of time to see improvements.  

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41 minutes ago, Burt said:

Awesome VR performance in this map and it’s huge and very beautiful in certain areas. Looking forward in trying it on a full blown mission with a lot of static objects ect. But just alone it runs great and very smooth. 
Great job Razbam !

Hi lvl yes, but only. Not on urban area and low flight near big forest. if you want to be surprised take the Ushuaia Heliport 😇.

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My performance below 800 feet was quite poor, down to low 20's fps, even out in the boonies with nary a building in sight. I even get blackouts where the view goes 20-80% black for a second or two. (It's suggested to turn off mirrors to eliminate this although I've never had this problem on other maps and I own them all) 

I love how the map looks but at low level it has worse performance for me than ever Marianas or Syria over towns.

 

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I'm running my G2 on SteamVR Beta and WMR4S, havent had the need to go OXR at this time. Have you tried switching versions in WMR to version LMK ? I was having issues in April with blacking out and over used VRam and someone1 told me to which versions in WMR to LMK and that fixed my issues and I'm still on that version. Heres my post for help.

 

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Performance for me is decent - very smooth on the islands, even over Stanley & Mount Pleasant.  Ushuaia had a few stutters.  Rift S, medium settings, laptop 3080.

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vor 5 Stunden schrieb Beirut:

Any word on RAM usage for this map?

 

Just took a Multiplayer flight from the Falklands across the Atlantic all to the West. The entire time my RAM was at 47GB in use. Mind you, meanwhile my settings are rather medium, so I restarted the flight, now with really high settings, and my RAM in use was instantly 54GB !

I mean, hey, this was Aerobatics Online with 10 players around midnight....ehhh...my next test will be  Liberation on SA with an overkill setting, bet it blows my RAM against the Wall and cries for MUCH more. The trend is there, 64GB won't be good enough for too long.

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27 minutes ago, BitMaster said:

Just took a Multiplayer flight from the Falklands across the Atlantic all to the West. The entire time my RAM was at 47GB in use. Mind you, meanwhile my settings are rather medium, so I restarted the flight, now with really high settings, and my RAM in use was instantly 54GB !

I mean, hey, this was Aerobatics Online with 10 players around midnight....ehhh...my next test will be  Liberation on SA with an overkill setting, bet it blows my RAM against the Wall and cries for MUCH more. The trend is there, 64GB won't be good enough for too long.

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Thank you for the feedback. That's a lot of RAM usage. I have 32GB, but I fly SP and not big missions, so I guess that lowers my needs. Pretty funky to see DCS eat up close to 64 though.

 

 

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Mostly maintaining 45fps in VR, but over built up areas which are quite sparse on this map it drops down to about 30fps, but its not a smooth experience and is quite jerky, I also get a lot of black screen flashes over the areas with lots of buildings, but hey this is early release and the first release build, they have said lots more needs to be done. It was a similar situation for me with the channel map I had the same FPS drop over populated areas, but for the last year or so channel runs fine for me now, so hopefully Razbam can do some tweeking for the areas with lots of buildings in the future. Overall the map produces some visually stunning views. Its also very noticeable how big this map is. Its very good work. 

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Mostly maintaining 45fps in VR, but over built up areas which are quite sparse on this map it drops down to about 30fps, but its not a smooth experience and is quite jerky, I also get a lot of black screen flashes over the areas with lots of buildings, but hey this is early release and the first release build, they have said lots more needs to be done. It was a similar situation for me with the channel map I had the same FPS drop over populated areas, but for the last year or so channel runs fine for me now, so hopefully Razbam can do some tweeking for the areas with lots of buildings in the future. Overall the map produces some visually stunning views. Its also very noticeable how big this map is. Its very good work. 

After turning off mirrors, per others suggestions, the black flashes were completely eliminated for me. Even the overall fps bumped up a frame or two during low flying. I'm going to try some flights with adversaries and I'm hopeful that it will maintain playable levels of fps.

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