-Nimrod- Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 I am experiencing the same sensitivity issue. I also paused flying the Viggen a bit and just recently came back to it. Not 100% sure if it was always like this but I would also say that this is something that came up in the last patch. I can rule out that it is something related to the input signal of my rudder pedals. I checked in the axis config and everything looks normal (no hard-overs at small pedal deflections or something like this). I made a short Video which demonstrated the issue in flight (see attached). At the beginning of the video I am just giving a very small ruder input and the nose is already all over the place. At the end I briefly apply full rudder. Watch the rudder pedals in the cockpit to get a feel for how much rudder I applied initially vs. what a full rudder deflection looks like. Since the pedals in the cockpit reflect "what DCS sees" I again, can rule out an issue with my rudder pedals. It seems to be related to the flight model. I have no issues like this with other modules. I tried with and without SPAK, different loadouts, fuel states and airspeeds. All lead to a similar result. Off course I can work around the issue by applying a ton of curvature but I don't really think this is the way this should be modelled. Unless the Viggen had a REALLY sensitive rudder. The video was recorded with 0 curvature by the way. Rudder test.mp4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakhit Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 I'm also noticing this with my MFG Crosswind pedals. I thought something felt off when I got back into the Viggen yesterday, glad it's not just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagnad Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 I also have this. And I also have the MFG crosswinds. Maybe a connection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machalot Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 On 3/3/2022 at 1:16 PM, -Nimrod- said: I am experiencing the same sensitivity issue. I also paused flying the Viggen a bit and just recently came back to it. Not 100% sure if it was always like this but I would also say that this is something that came up in the last patch. I can rule out that it is something related to the input signal of my rudder pedals. I checked in the axis config and everything looks normal (no hard-overs at small pedal deflections or something like this). I made a short Video which demonstrated the issue in flight (see attached). At the beginning of the video I am just giving a very small ruder input and the nose is already all over the place. At the end I briefly apply full rudder. Watch the rudder pedals in the cockpit to get a feel for how much rudder I applied initially vs. what a full rudder deflection looks like. Since the pedals in the cockpit reflect "what DCS sees" I again, can rule out an issue with my rudder pedals. It seems to be related to the flight model. I have no issues like this with other modules. I tried with and without SPAK, different loadouts, fuel states and airspeeds. All lead to a similar result. Off course I can work around the issue by applying a ton of curvature but I don't really think this is the way this should be modelled. Unless the Viggen had a REALLY sensitive rudder. The video was recorded with 0 curvature by the way. Rudder test.mp4 I see what you're talking about. I can reproduce that behavior. If you turn off SPAK, it is a damped oscillation like a Dutch roll. If you turn on SPAK, the SAS applies a strong, momentary opposite rudder to damp the yaw rate (maybe also the sideslip) but that introduces a pretty strong opposing roll moment. By the time the roll rate damps (unsure if natural or SAS) it has rolled between 60-90 degrees. I don't know if this is true to the real design or intended behavior. AJS37_rudder_yaw_damping.trk "Subsonic is below Mach 1, supersonic is up to Mach 5. Above Mach 5 is hypersonic. And reentry from space, well, that's like Mach a lot." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machalot Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 I asked the HB team to take a look at this and submitted it to the bug tracker. 1 "Subsonic is below Mach 1, supersonic is up to Mach 5. Above Mach 5 is hypersonic. And reentry from space, well, that's like Mach a lot." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakhit Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 This unfortunately still seems to be happening as of 2.8.1 - any news on this one? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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