Sinclair_76 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 IZLID's have been mounted to the 30mm to enhance coordination between air-ground units. It's only visible with NVG and not FLIR. The lasers have been used a lot to point targets out for aircraft The other way around an IZLID mounted on the gun can be used to point out feature/subjects of interest to ground forces in a visual manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaemonPhobos Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 The reference material (251-10 dated 2005) doesn't mention the laser pointer. However, I'm not sure if they are sticking to a 2005 version LBA, since in one of the release pictures you can clearly see a CMWS CIU panel at the right. The only mention of CMWS in the 2005 document is on the WCA description, therefore, it's unclear if it was installed at that time, I thought it was installed around 2007 or 2008. Looking at late block 2 apaches, if you see the center pedestal, below the check over speed tests and wiper panels, you will see a panel that isn't displayed on the ED released pictures, it has controls for an IR laser for the AWS, the blue force tracker, and an IR strobe. I believe it may have something to do with the IZLID. Later apaches just have controls for the Laser pointer in the WPN page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuto Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) Hello Everyone, after researching a few stuff about the IZLID it seem like the IZLID (IR ZOOM LASER ILLUMINATOR-DESIGNATOR) was added on the apache in 2007 which means our apache is eligible to getting the IZLID the TC 1-251 mentions that the 2007 apache gets the IZLID and shows you how to operate it, is it possible to get this on our apache as we have proof of it being available within our timeframe. would be helpful to point out stuff to other Helos around us that cant use LST like the Huey, Hip and Hind and also Fixed wing aircraft if Needed. Edited January 18, 2022 by Yuto 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEXO Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 i agree, after further investigation i've come to a conclusion that the IZLID is a thing within the time-frame of our upcoming apache and is a very reasonable thing to have, as mentioned by Yuto the TC 1-251 shows proof of the 2007 apache getting the IZLID. 4 Phantoms Phorever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted January 18, 2022 ED Team Share Posted January 18, 2022 Hi all, I have checked with the team, this is not planned for our AH-64D 1 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuto Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 is it possible to get it planned? because the IZLID fits the timeframe of the aircraft and its a system that doesn't effect any other system that's already been implemented 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaOneSix Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Well, that's what wishlists are for, after all. Maybe for AH-64D II: Electric Boogaloo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trettifire Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Match sparkle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascon Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) I think it would be great to have a laser designator on the dcs ah-64. Edited January 20, 2022 by Cascon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MstrCmdr Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Cascon said: I think it would be great to have a laser designator on the dcs ah-64. Can't the M-TADS do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgillers3 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Yes, the tads has a laser designator I think he was referring to the izlid and not an actual laser designator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibal Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 last night was the first time i saw the laser beam in VR via A10C targeting pod laser with NVGs on.... the coolest thing!! find me on steam! username: Hannibal_A101A http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197969447179 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MstrCmdr Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, kgillers3 said: Yes, the tads has a laser designator I think he was referring to the izlid and not an actual laser designator Gotcha. Can the M-TADS not emit an IR beam? In the A-10 you can select IR, laser, or both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgillers3 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, MstrCmdr said: Gotcha. Can the M-TADS not emit an IR beam? In the A-10 you can select IR, laser, or both. There is a version of the tads that will have that ability, but the version they are emulating in game does not, and the version that does have that ability was not installed on the d model. The izlid for all points and purposes is a high powered ir laser pointer. The tads can do laser range finding and laser designating Edited January 20, 2022 by kgillers3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MstrCmdr Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 minute ago, kgillers3 said: There is a version of the tads that will have that ability, but the version they are emulating in game does not, and the version that does have that ability was not installed on the d model Thanks for the info. In that case I hope they give us the IZLID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llOPPOTATOll Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 On 1/18/2022 at 4:10 PM, BIGNEWY said: Hi all, I have checked with the team, this is not planned for our AH-64D Why? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Raptor9 Posted January 22, 2022 ED Team Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) When 9.1 avionics was prevalent in the fleet during the time period, not all units had these devices installed. Even when a unit had them, not every airframe within a given unit had one installed or available. Although as time went on they were more common, just not a fleet-wide standard piece of equipment. I'm not advocating for or against it, just providing clarification that it wasn't a standard piece of equipment back then on every airframe in every unit. Edited January 22, 2022 by Raptor9 grammar, as usual 1 Afterburners are for wussies...hang around the battlefield and dodge tracers like a man. DCS Rotor-Head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S. Low Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 Saw how useful the A10 IZLID is in a recent multiplayer mission and apparently all apaches get this because it’s just mounted to the gun. Correction, according to raptor it was not standard fleet wide in given timeframe. Still would like to have it though https://forum.dcs.world/topic/291345-izlid-ir-zoom-laser-illuminator-designator-on-our-2005-2010-ah-64d-block-2-v91/?do=findComment&comment=4875304 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift. Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 It would be super cool to have. And a relatively (?) simple thing. 1 476th Discord | 476th Website | Swift Youtube Ryzen 5800x, RTX 4070ti, 64GB, Quest 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scaley Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 It's been requested several times already, and apparently is outside the timeframe of the version modelled. 476th vFighter Group Main Page -- YouTube -- Discord Scaley AV YouTube - More videos from the 476th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Raptor9 Posted April 12, 2022 ED Team Share Posted April 12, 2022 47 minutes ago, Scaley said: is outside the timeframe of the version modelled. It's not, it just wasn't a standard piece of equipment since it was relatively new. 1 Afterburners are for wussies...hang around the battlefield and dodge tracers like a man. DCS Rotor-Head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scaley Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Good to know, I was remembering a forum thread from quite a while pre-release where the topic came up. 476th vFighter Group Main Page -- YouTube -- Discord Scaley AV YouTube - More videos from the 476th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick50 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Uh... clearly I'm missing something. All Apaches have a laser for ranging and desginating targets to Hellfire and other units, correct? Ok, so what's the purpose of adding another laser ( IZLID (IR ZOOM LASER ILLUMINATOR-DESIGNATOR) ) to the cannon?? I don't get it, help me out!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjonessnp175 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Izlid is a must, my ODA used this with the APache's flying over head in Iraq in 2007. Nothing better to have them match Ir to Ir to confirm what we want them to destroy..... It was quickly figured out on the ground and down range this was the next best thing to aid radio comms with over head airframes. Be a real shame if we cant get this on this Airframe in dcs. Some seem confused about what the use is, the use is immense when in a urban environment at night like Baghdad which i have experience with. You can talk to the CPG and have the Gun immedietely put on our Ir laser pointing out some sh.. head on such and such roof top with rpg and a Rpk.... So Every Airframe we worked with had this Ability Including the Apache. Please ED reconsider this, Allot of great work with the Apache's over head via the IR pointer space happened and it was a huge game changer for us on the ground. Heck make it optional just like the ability of F16 carrying 4xHarms and NVG are optional in the Editor as well.... 1 1 I7 4770k @ 4.6, sli 980 evga oc edition, ssdx2, Sony 55 inch edid hack nvidia 3dvision. Volair sim pit, DK2 Oculus Rift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick50 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Ok, I can see the utility of using it to confirm and communicate... but... why a second laser needed? Couldn't you use the TADS laser for this too? Or is there some limitation that I'm not seeing? Is it a different IR frequency? Is the TADS laser not visible using NVG's or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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