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On 1/20/2022 at 1:38 PM, captain_kaoss said:

Is this behaviour of the Roll SAS system modelled by Heatblur?

Yes it is: Roll SAS ON introduces lots of unwanted behaviour at high AOA, which you can easily test yourself by loading up a dogfight IA mission and doing that fight with the system on, and leaving it off next run.

 

22 hours ago, Kondor77 said:

I believe all the instant action quick BFM missions included with the module, start with roll SAS already off. 

Indeed they do.

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Maybe it has something to do with the way i fly (generally unloading before rolling), but i've never noticed anything detrimental by having it on during ACM 🤔
Never done deliberate intensive testing though! 

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8 hours ago, captain_dalan said:

Maybe it has something to do with the way i fly (generally unloading before rolling), but i've never noticed anything detrimental by having it on during ACM 🤔
Never done deliberate intensive testing though! 

Was also going to say this, maybe cross controls causes the SAS to induced adverse behaviour? But I can’t ever recall remembering to turn it off and have I’ve done quite a lot of BFM against human players without ever noticing it above 30 AOA. 

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On 1/22/2022 at 11:41 PM, Gunslinger22 said:

Was also going to say this, maybe cross controls causes the SAS to induced adverse behaviour? But I can’t ever recall remembering to turn it off and have I’ve done quite a lot of BFM against human players without ever noticing it above 30 AOA. 

Yep, me too 🙂
I almost always forget to turn it off. Haven't even mapped a key-binding to it until a week or so. 

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In order to achieve proper behavior in the rest of the envelope, the extreme high alpha characteristics haven't been completely implemented yet, it's coming.

That's where Roll SAS exacerbates departure tendencies, and why it was deactivated before maneuvering flight.

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20 minutes ago, Victory205 said:

In order to achieve proper behavior in the rest of the envelope, the extreme high alpha characteristics haven't been completely implemented yet, it's coming.

 

Ah, that makes sense!

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4 hours ago, Victory205 said:

In order to achieve proper behavior in the rest of the envelope, the extreme high alpha characteristics haven't been completely implemented yet, it's coming.

That's where Roll SAS exacerbates departure tendencies, and why it was deactivated before maneuvering flight.

so its gonna be more of a handfull at high aoa in future? ooooooh 

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