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Jester improvement idea - PD THRLD and Pulse gain set to "Norm" detent auto settings


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Problem: Jester doesn't appear to be getting the most from the AWG-9, if you switch to his seat during single player he has the PD THRLD CLEAR and CLUTTER as well as the PULSE GAIN in their sub-optimal, default positions.*

While a skilled RIO will manually adjust these if required, a decent RIO will set them to their fully clockwise "Norm" position to let the AWG-9 control these automatically. From the HB DCS F14 manual:

"On the lower left side of the DDD is located the PULSE GAIN control knob (20) which controls the radar gain in the pulse modes. This control affects the gain of the radar directly. Normally left in the detent at the fully clockwise position which allows the WCS to control it automatically."

"On the left side of the DDD panel are located the PD THRLD (26), JAM/JET (24) and ACM THRLD (25) control knobs. The pulse-doppler threshold knobs (PD THRLD) controls the threshold at which an echo is regarded as a contact, displayed on the DDD and tracked on the TID in RWS and TWS. The CLEAR knob controls the clear region threshold (upper half of the DDD) and the CLUTTER knob controls the clutter region (lower half of the DDD). Normally left in the clockwise NORM detents, letting the WCS automatically control them."

Improvement suggestion: As part of start-up or fence in for combat, have Jester set these controls to their fully clockwise "Norm" positions.

*I am basing my observations solely off the positions of dials in the cockpit during single player seat switching, if Jester does in fact adjust these dials then my mistake but I have not observed him doing so in single player combat. Picture below shows Jester / default positions for these dials. But this might explain some of the frustration with Jester loosing targets readily.

 

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Nice, I didn't know they implemented the PD Threshold knob. I thought they were not going to be part of the EA.

Let's see what the devs say.

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7 minutes ago, Karon said:

Nice, I didn't know they implemented the PD Threshold knob. I thought they were not going to be part of the EA.

Let's see what the devs say.

I will admit it is unclear if it is implemented. The manual implies it is, underneath this section of the manual it has "JAM/JET and ACM THRLD not currently implemented in DCS.", in game it has (no function) over these dials. I just spin them to auto in case they are, but haven't done enough testing to confirm function. The PULSE GAIN dial is clearly working though.

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In this post (28/02/19) Mr Naquaii said it was not planned for EA, but ofc plans can change, and I wouldn't be surprised if I have missed something 😅

 

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Aye, just also found that post and a similar one from 2021 implying PD THRLD is not implemented but may be in the future, would be worth checking with a dev maybe. I guess the request stands for PULSE GAIN to be set to norm if this has any effect on helping to hold a lock and isn't just a search mode thing.

 

 


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I think if you hover over the knobs in the RIOpit, they will say that they’re non functional.

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On 1/24/2022 at 9:01 PM, DSplayer said:

I think if you hover over the knobs in the RIOpit, they will say that they’re non functional.

Yeah, I did mention this earlier and the ambiguity between the manual and in cockpit message. Regardless having tested them they don't appear to make a difference, and also there was a comment by HB in another thread basically saying they are not functional for now.

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