correct as is Engaging NWS after landing locks up the nearest aircraft.

[norman99]

Exactly as the title describes, after landing on the carrier, when pressing the NWS switch to engage NWS Hi, the attack radar bugs the nearest aircraft as the L&S target.

It also happens during startup, when attempting to engage NSW Hi, even when the radar has been in Silent mode, which is strange, because the only track files would be from datalink, and we cannot yet bug datalink files as L&S, so something is weird.

I couldn't get a track, but I'll  try and set up a small test mission to demonstrate.

[Swift.]

How soon after landing is this happening, because it might be possible for you to be setting a track currently going into MEM as the L&S (even though the MEM logic is also guffed)

Edited January 22, 2022 by Swiftwin9s

[Hulkbust44]

On the deck, your are picking up jamming targets which of course only requires the reciever for the radar. Only transmission is inhibited on the deck.

[norman99]

I genuinely don’t know, but should there be some weight-on-wheels logic that identifies when the NWS button is used for NWS/NWS Hi selection, and when it is used for radar L&S target selection? 

Edited January 22, 2022 by norman99

[Swift.]

Perhaps, perhaps not. It doesn't really affect anything if it does assign an L&S with WonW.

[Coyle]

Seems fine to me.

https://youtu.be/KEKDSTgDR2M?t=903

Gets an L&S after landing, as you can see in the HUD repeater. Don't need radar contribution to L&S a MSI trackfile.

Edited January 23, 2022 by Coyle

[FrostLaufeyson]

I've had the same situation a few times recently
However, I encountered it while landing at the airport, not the aircraft carrier

I also don't know how to reproduce this bug, when I encounter it again, I will try to provide the trk file

[norman99]

2 hours ago, Coyle said:

Don't need radar contribution to L&S a MSI trackfile.

 

Interesting you say that, as it's constantly mentioned as one of the most important missing features.

[Hulkbust44]

I've had the same situation a few times recently
However, I encountered it while landing at the airport, not the aircraft carrier
I also don't know how to reproduce this bug, when I encounter it again, I will try to provide the trk file

Don't bother, not a bug.

[Harker]

Interesting you say that, as it's constantly mentioned as one of the most important missing features.

In DCS, you're just designating a track in radar memory after you land, not a non-radar MSI track, so it's not necessarily the same as in the IRL video. MSI is still missing in DCS.

[Coyle]

7 hours ago, norman99 said:

Interesting you say that, as it's constantly mentioned as one of the most important missing features.

Yes, in the context of our DCS hornet that has not a shred of actual MSI implemented it is a little more odd. However the feature works as intended all the same. NWS with TDC on the radar even if the page isn't up should, as in the video: invoke L&S step onto valid tracks.

[Swift.]

Yeah the result is the same, even if the mechanism that creates it isnt correct.

[_UnknownCheater_]

?Why this issue need the track replay?This issue is a fking old bug,about 2 or 3 years.When you HOT on ground and press NWS button your radar will lock on the nearest plane right?ED never fixed this old bug.

Edited July 7, 2022 by zhouyut001

[Hulkbust44]

?Why this issue need the track replay?This issue is a fking old bug,about 2 or 3 years.When you HOT on ground and press NWS button your radar will lock on the nearest plane right?ED never fixed this old bug.

It's not a bug, that's why.

[BIGNEWY]

On 7/7/2022 at 12:58 PM, zhouyut001 said:

?Why this issue need the track replay?

all bug reports need a track replay so we can check what the user is reporting is actually a bug, in this case I do not think this is a bug, but we would like to check nevertheless to ensure, or maybe help the user out.

thanks

[_UnknownCheater_]

On 7/12/2022 at 4:43 AM, Hulkbust44 said:

On 7/7/2022 at 7:58 PM, zhouyut001 said:

?Why this issue need the track replay?This issue is a fking old bug,about 2 or 3 years.When you HOT on ground and press NWS button your radar will lock on the nearest plane right?ED never fixed this old bug.

It's not a bug, that's why.

So you mean the radar can work on ground?

On 7/12/2022 at 4:24 PM, BIGNEWY said:

all bug reports need a track replay so we can check what the user is reporting is actually a bug, in this case I do not think this is a bug, but we would like to check nevertheless to ensure, or maybe help the user out.

thanks

I mean it a old one,I think there are already someone posted the track files.I remembered the F18 radar can lock targets on the ground lasted 3 years,no one reported?

[MARLAN_]

11 minutes ago, zhouyut001 said:

So you mean the radar can work on ground?

I mean it a old one,I think there are already someone posted the track files.I remembered the F18 radar can lock targets on the ground lasted 3 years,no one reported?

The radar isn't locking anything while on the ground (radar should not be emitting with weight-on-wheels if I remember correctly), it is designating track files from memory. The distinction between a lock (STT) and a designation (L&S) is good to know, the community's misnomer of "soft lock" (which isn't a thing) often contributes to this common misunderstanding.

For example, if MSI is ever implemented in the DCS F18 you could designate an offboard track without radar contribution at all, allowing you to designate tracks while on the ground even after radar memory has timed out.

Edited July 13, 2022 by MARLAN_

[Swift.]

46 minutes ago, MARLAN_ said:

For example, if MSI is ever implemented in the DCS F18 you could designate an offboard track without radar contribution at all, allowing you to designate tracks while on the ground even after radar memory has timed out.

 

Something you can see happening in quite a few cruise videos aswell

[Hulkbust44]

I mean it a old one,I think there are already someone posted the track files.I remembered the F18 radar can lock targets on the ground lasted 3 years,no one reported?

Yes, it can *recieve* on the ground. What's been seen here are jamming strobes with resolved azimuth. System memory can hold tracks for a while, but what you actually pickup on the ground is from jammers.