bies Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) On 4/20/2022 at 10:39 PM, _BringTheReign_ said: I really appreciate the split between earlier and later versions, it allows for more variety in mission planning Yes, this is an awesome feature. Imagine i.e. Iranian F-14A GR95 dogfighting having only rear aspect Sidewinders J/P being forced to outfly the enemy to fire the missile from the rear aspect. Having F-4 variants from different timeframe will be awesome as well. I only wish to have some even earlier hard wing typical 1960s Vietnam era F-4E. But i still think the earlier variant from 1974 could be able to simulate proper late Vietnam era slatted F-4E. Edited May 23, 2022 by bies 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101st Lonestar AUT Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 My most wanted Phantom ist the F-4G Wild Weasel variant. It can play a major role in SEAD operations all over the servers, making it very interresting for a variety of mission types - and therefore a lot of players! 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon1-1 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Unfortunately, this one isn't gonna happen since EW equipment onboard is still classified. It'd be nice as AI, though. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bies Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 7 hours ago, 101st Lonestar AUT said: My most wanted Phantom ist the F-4G Wild Weasel variant. It can play a major role in SEAD operations all over the servers, making it very interresting for a variety of mission types - and therefore a lot of players! I would say SEAD is not variety of missions but just one, it was specialised aircraft. Classic F-4B,C,D,E are multirole, interception, air superiority, ground attack, strike, CAS etc. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLTeo Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Classified or not there is also no reason to have an EW platform as long as the DCS environment is as simple as it is atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinlein Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 En 25/5/2022 a las 8:51, 101st Lonestar AUT dijo: My most wanted Phantom ist the F-4G Wild Weasel variant. It can play a major role in SEAD operations all over the servers, making it very interresting for a variety of mission types - and therefore a lot of players! well. You can use the E version for SEAD. The E version could carry Shrike missiles. Only a hit probability of like 25 % but still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick50 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Heinlein said: well. You can use the E version for SEAD. The E version could carry Shrike missiles. Only a hit probability of like 25 % but still Sounds crappy by today's standards... but for the era of the Shrike, 25% hits was pretty good I think!! I mean, the first couple of Sidewinder Aim-9 versions had Probability of Kill (expressed as Pk rating) of far below that: In total 452 Sidewinders were fired during the Vietnam War, resulting in a kill probability of 18%. Keep in mind, that the Sidewinder entered service... 66 YEARS AGO!! That means it gets the senior citizen discount, and can qualify for pension! Then again, it IS still working hard these days... though that young hotshot whippersnapper Amraam is getting more attention these days! It wasn't until the 9-Lima (introduced in 1977, the first "all aspect" heater) that Pk increased substantially, rocketing up to 80% Pk in the Falklands War of 1982. I do suspect though that at least a little bit of that increase in Pk might be attributable to high training standards among RAF and RN pilots, much newer radars and radios than used in Vietnam, and I'm very certain the Americans helped pass along the Vietnam "lessons learned" training/info to their Island-bound friends. But for a 1960's missile to have a 25% seems to be pretty good even for targets that just sit there! Edited May 26, 2022 by Rick50 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtPappy Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 4 hours ago, Rick50 said: Sounds crappy by today's standards... but for the era of the Shrike, 25% hits was pretty good I think!! I mean, the first couple of Sidewinder Aim-9 versions had Probability of Kill (expressed as Pk rating) of far below that: In total 452 Sidewinders were fired during the Vietnam War, resulting in a kill probability of 18%. Keep in mind, that the Sidewinder entered service... 66 YEARS AGO!! That means it gets the senior citizen discount, and can qualify for pension! Then again, it IS still working hard these days... though that young hotshot whippersnapper Amraam is getting more attention these days! It wasn't until the 9-Lima (introduced in 1977, the first "all aspect" heater) that Pk increased substantially, rocketing up to 80% Pk in the Falklands War of 1982. I do suspect though that at least a little bit of that increase in Pk might be attributable to high training standards among RAF and RN pilots, much newer radars and radios than used in Vietnam, and I'm very certain the Americans helped pass along the Vietnam "lessons learned" training/info to their Island-bound friends. But for a 1960's missile to have a 25% seems to be pretty good even for targets that just sit there! For sure a lot of the problem was training. The AIM-9J hit at the edge of its envelope when it first entered service i believe 4/4 shots. However since the aircrew was given wrong information about its range at low altitude, the rest were fired out of range and the AIM-9J never hit again. It was possibly a very good missile but we'll never know beyond those shots. In DCS we've learned from all this (and of course it's a game) so we will be able to use them to better effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick50 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 It's kinda shocking how even just a tiny difference in training coverage and content, can drastically affect the outcomes of operations !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLTeo Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 The difference wasn't tiny at all though. Before the late 60s non-Crusader crews had next to no air to air training other than running intercepts. Almost no BFM and ACM, especially in realistic scenarios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOLIDKREATE Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Well you have my "full attention". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick50 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Just occurred to me now that it'll be interesting using the M-61 Vulcan with an oldschool gunsight, (instead of a fancy HUD with radar data...) just a reticle image, raw skill and a blazin fast rate of fire! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snappy Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Rick50 said: Just occurred to me now that it'll be interesting using the M-61 Vulcan with an oldschool gunsight, (instead of a fancy HUD with radar data...) just a reticle image, raw skill and a blazin fast rate of fire! You will have a radar guided moving gunsight with lead factored in and range info on the reticle, even with this old HUD on the -E. If you have the F-5 Tiger II, it’s gun sight is very similar to the one used by the -E. Unfortunately the one on the F-5e is a bit bugged in regards to lead calculation. Edited August 18, 2022 by Snappy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Jockey Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 On 8/18/2022 at 9:40 AM, Snappy said: You will have a radar guided moving gunsight with lead factored in and range info on the reticle, even with this old HUD on the -E. If you have the F-5 Tiger II, it’s gun sight is very similar to the one used by the -E. Unfortunately the one on the F-5e is a bit bugged in regards to lead calculation. Yep, also had that ideia in the bold, (from other sims). Although for AIM-9 employment the gunsight didn't provide much info ... but it was the technoloy available at the time. Hangar FC3 | F-14A/B | F-16C | F/A-18C | MiG-21bis | Mirage 2000C ... ... JA 37 | Kfir | MiG-23 | Mirage IIIE Mi-8 MTV2 system i7-4790 K , 16 GB DDR3 , GTX 1660 Ti 6GB , Samsung 860 QVO 1TB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basco1 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 So looking forward to the F-4,truly an iconic aircraft in so many ways,are we still on for this module to be released this year ?.....first day buy for me. 3 Chillblast Fusion Cirrus 2 FS Pc/Intel Core i7-7700K Kaby Lake CPU/Gigabyte Nvidia GTX 1070 G1 8GB/Seagate 2TB FireCuda SSHD/16GB DDR4 2133MHz Memory/Asus STRIX Z270F Gaming Motherboard/Corsair Hydro Series H80i GT Liquid Cooler/TM Warthog with MFG 10cm Extension/WINWING Orion Rudder Pedals (With Damper Edition)/TrackiR5/Windows 11 Home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gripen 4-1 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 (edited) Airpower 22 Austria Heatblur, I fell in Love with the Phantom and can't wait any longer Edited September 4, 2022 by Gripen 4-1 13 SYS: MSI MPG X570 Gaming Edge Wifi || Ryzen 5900x || Gainward RTX4090 || 2x16 Gb Crucial Ballistix RGB 3200@3800 || XPG Core Reactor 850 Watt PSU || Kingston Fury 2 TB NVME SSD || WD SN850 1TB NVME || 1 x 500 GB Crucial MX300 SATA SSD || 2 x HDD 3TB || Thrustmaster F-16 & F-18 Stick on Virpil War BRD Bases || WinWing Orion2 F-16EX Viper Throttle Combo || WinWing Orion2 F/A-18 Hornet Throttle Combo (With Finger Lift) || WinWing Takeoff Panel II MFG Crosswind Pedals w. Damper || 3 x Thrustmaster Cougar MFD || Multipurpose UFC || Wheel Stand Pro II VR: HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scommander2 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Nice photos!! Dell XPS 9730, i9-13900H, DDR5 64GB, Discrete GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080, 1+2TB M.2 SSD, TM HOTAS Warthog/TPR, TKIR5/TrackClipPro, Win 11 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gripen 4-1 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Thanks! One more of this beauty 5 SYS: MSI MPG X570 Gaming Edge Wifi || Ryzen 5900x || Gainward RTX4090 || 2x16 Gb Crucial Ballistix RGB 3200@3800 || XPG Core Reactor 850 Watt PSU || Kingston Fury 2 TB NVME SSD || WD SN850 1TB NVME || 1 x 500 GB Crucial MX300 SATA SSD || 2 x HDD 3TB || Thrustmaster F-16 & F-18 Stick on Virpil War BRD Bases || WinWing Orion2 F-16EX Viper Throttle Combo || WinWing Orion2 F/A-18 Hornet Throttle Combo (With Finger Lift) || WinWing Takeoff Panel II MFG Crosswind Pedals w. Damper || 3 x Thrustmaster Cougar MFD || Multipurpose UFC || Wheel Stand Pro II VR: HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrimp Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 (edited) Dear Heatblur, Suggestion for the F-4 module title: DCS: F-4E/F Phantom II Yours sincerely, The World Edited September 6, 2022 by Shrimp Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAXsenna Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 22 minutes ago, Shrimp said: Dear Heatblur, Suggestion for the F-4 module title: DSC: F-4E/F Phamtom II Yours sincerely, The World You might wanna edit that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick50 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 I don't care if it has an official title... I just wanna go stage 3 into the wild blue yonder in possibly the most legendary fighter jet of all !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon1-1 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 DCS: Phabulous F-4E Phantom II would work just as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisprinzessin Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Am 4.9.2022 um 10:14 schrieb Gripen 4-1: Airpower 22 Austria Heatblur, I fell in Love with the Phantom and can't wait any longer I would love to have such "resting" planes as static objects, to bring some live in the airports in my missions... 2 Specs: 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-12900K 3.20 GHz, RAM 128 GB, Win11 Home, RTX3080Ti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elf1606688794 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 The OP said release in 2022...time is getting short...just saying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cab Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 6 hours ago, Elf1606688794 said: The OP said release in 2022...time is getting short...just saying... This is actually really good news. I mean, if they weren’t going to make 2022 they would have announced that already, right? Right? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts