Rudel_chw Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 1 hour ago, 5ephir0th said: Well, DCS runs far worse, at least on VR, and i think i know why, shadows are broken. Did you clear the fxo and metashaders2 folders? For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5ephir0th Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said: Did you clear the fxo and metashaders2 folders? Off course NZXT H9 Flow Black | Intel Core i5 13600KF OCed P5.6 E4.4 | Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX | G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5-6000 32GB C30 OCed 6600 C32 | nVidia GeForce RTX 4090 Founders Edition | Western Digital SN770 2TB | Gigabyte GP-UD1000GM PG5 ATX 3.0 1000W | SteelSeries Apex 7 | Razer Viper Mini | SteelSeries Artics Nova 7 | LG OLED42C2 | Xiaomi P1 55" Virpil T-50 CM2 Base + Thrustmaster Warthog Stick | WinWing Orion 2 F16EX Viper Throttle | WinWing ICP | 3 x Thrustmaster MFD | Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals | Oculus Quest 2 DCS World | Persian Gulf | Syria | Flaming Cliff 3 | P-51D Mustang | Spitfire LF Mk. IX | Fw-109 A-8 | A-10C II Tank Killer | F/A-18C Hornet | F-14B Tomcat | F-16C Viper | F-15E Strike Eagle | M2000C | Ka-50 BlackShark III | Mi-24P Hind | AH-64D Apache | SuperCarrier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadKreator Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 19 minutes ago, Northstar98 said: It's been the map used for testing improved lighting since 2.5.6 first released and has had drastically improved lightning compared to all other maps since. 2.8 is just continuing the trend. Makes sense. I had no idea, it was honest confusion lol 1 Intel i7 13700k, ASUS rog strix z790A, 64gigs G.Skill Trident DDR5 @6400Mhz, Nvidia RTX 4080FE, 2x 2TB Samsung M.2 NVME, 2x 1TB Samsung SSD, Corsair RM1000x, Corsair h100i 240mm cooler, Lian Li LanCool 3, VKB Gunfighter Ultimate, VKB STECS , MFG Crosswinds, Track IR5, 48” LG UltraGear OLED & HP 24” touchscreen for Helios, Streamdeck XL, DCS-UFC App, Corsair Virtuoso RGB Headphones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Aeternae Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 14 minutes ago, 5ephir0th said: shadows are broken. Secondary shadows makes no difference. Not broken here. Secondary shadows apply only to supercarrier. PG looks damn good, and runs super smooth aswell. Night lights are stunning! 4 PC: i7 8700k 32GB DDR4 3200 Mhz RTX 3070 Ti Hotas Warthog Thrustmaster TPR Track ir 5 Bodnar BBI-32 Beyerdynamic DT-770 Pro Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 Lewitt LCT 240 Pro Jets: A-10A A-10C Warthog A-10C II F-14 Tomcat F-16C Viper F-5E Tiger II F/A-18C Hornet F-15C Su-33 MiG-29 F-86F Sabre Choppers: AH-64D Mi-8MTV2 UH-1H Huey Black shark 2 Maps: Nevada Normandy Persian gulf Syria The Channel WW2: BF-109 K4 Fw 190 D-9 Dora Mosquito FB VI P-51D Mustang Spitfire LF Mk. IX Other: Supercarrier WWII Assets Pack NS 430 Navigation System Combined Arms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadKreator Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) Was just trying PG at night, lighting seems much improved. Did notice that the lighting is much brighter and easier to see at distance in external view than in cockpit. Was flying towards bandar abbas , prob 20 miles out and in cockpit you could just make out the city/ airfield, but switching to external view it was lit up like crazy.. Maybe thats how its always been? Like I said earlier I stay away from night ops mostly, due to the mfd export brightness annoyance.. It was a bit stormy in my quick mission and I noticed what seemed to be more noticeable turbulence flying around ... maybe my mind is playing tricks on me LOL I don’t recall noticing the constant subtle random movements .. flying in the f-16 fwiw —- very much welcomed if it was an effect of improved weather systems Edited October 28, 2022 by MadKreator Intel i7 13700k, ASUS rog strix z790A, 64gigs G.Skill Trident DDR5 @6400Mhz, Nvidia RTX 4080FE, 2x 2TB Samsung M.2 NVME, 2x 1TB Samsung SSD, Corsair RM1000x, Corsair h100i 240mm cooler, Lian Li LanCool 3, VKB Gunfighter Ultimate, VKB STECS , MFG Crosswinds, Track IR5, 48” LG UltraGear OLED & HP 24” touchscreen for Helios, Streamdeck XL, DCS-UFC App, Corsair Virtuoso RGB Headphones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shagrat Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 vor 2 Stunden schrieb MadKreator: I thought PG was an odd choice to introduce new lighting systems as well. I figured caucuses would have been the first pick since its the most played. I like PG and welcome the addition either way. Maybe its a good OB test on a map with lower player volume to get bugs out before making changes to others Personally I don’t play a lot of night/ evening missions since having exported mfd’s makes the in-cockpit ones abhorrently bright, even in night mode with brightness all the way down to the point you cant see the exported mfd’s . I’d love to see that fixed, but that has been an on-going thing for a long time To my knowledge Caucasus is the oldest map, with the least modern objects, the least modern effects, terrain mesh etc. Persian Gulf is frequently used by large amounts of users AND has most/all new effects introduced with the 2.5 graphics engine upgrade. Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5ephir0th Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Tenebrae Aeternae said: Not broken here. Secondary shadows apply only to supercarrier. PG looks damn good, and runs super smooth aswell. Night lights are stunning! It works ok if you has terrain objects as default, you can check the differences here: Default terrain shadows its a killer on VR, thats why flat and off options exists Edited October 28, 2022 by 5ephir0th 2 NZXT H9 Flow Black | Intel Core i5 13600KF OCed P5.6 E4.4 | Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX | G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5-6000 32GB C30 OCed 6600 C32 | nVidia GeForce RTX 4090 Founders Edition | Western Digital SN770 2TB | Gigabyte GP-UD1000GM PG5 ATX 3.0 1000W | SteelSeries Apex 7 | Razer Viper Mini | SteelSeries Artics Nova 7 | LG OLED42C2 | Xiaomi P1 55" Virpil T-50 CM2 Base + Thrustmaster Warthog Stick | WinWing Orion 2 F16EX Viper Throttle | WinWing ICP | 3 x Thrustmaster MFD | Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals | Oculus Quest 2 DCS World | Persian Gulf | Syria | Flaming Cliff 3 | P-51D Mustang | Spitfire LF Mk. IX | Fw-109 A-8 | A-10C II Tank Killer | F/A-18C Hornet | F-14B Tomcat | F-16C Viper | F-15E Strike Eagle | M2000C | Ka-50 BlackShark III | Mi-24P Hind | AH-64D Apache | SuperCarrier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northstar98 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) Thank you so much for the new magnetic declination indication in the mission editor! EDIT: And thank you so much for the new Compass Rose in F10, the ruler from bullseye and the ft/m conversion! Edited October 28, 2022 by Northstar98 4 Modules I own: F-14A/B, Mi-24P, AV-8B N/A, AJS 37, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Aeternae Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 21 minutes ago, 5ephir0th said: It works ok if you has terrain objects as default, you can check the differences here: Ouch.. that's bad. PC: i7 8700k 32GB DDR4 3200 Mhz RTX 3070 Ti Hotas Warthog Thrustmaster TPR Track ir 5 Bodnar BBI-32 Beyerdynamic DT-770 Pro Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 Lewitt LCT 240 Pro Jets: A-10A A-10C Warthog A-10C II F-14 Tomcat F-16C Viper F-5E Tiger II F/A-18C Hornet F-15C Su-33 MiG-29 F-86F Sabre Choppers: AH-64D Mi-8MTV2 UH-1H Huey Black shark 2 Maps: Nevada Normandy Persian gulf Syria The Channel WW2: BF-109 K4 Fw 190 D-9 Dora Mosquito FB VI P-51D Mustang Spitfire LF Mk. IX Other: Supercarrier WWII Assets Pack NS 430 Navigation System Combined Arms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zildac Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Ouch.. that's bad. Yup was going to ask this, saw the same behavior. 12900KF | Maximus Hero Z690 | ASUS 4090 TUF OC | 64GB DDR5 5200 | DCS on 2TB NVMe | WarBRD+Warthog Stick | CM3 | TM TPR's | Varjo Aero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale1986 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Hey guys, i can't recenter the view as a VR user - it's unusable at the moment. I used the "View Center" function before. Has anyone got an idea what could has caused this or how to mitigate this problem? 1 Main Module: AH-64D Personal Wishlist: HH-60G, F-117A, B-52H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talisman_VR Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) Very alarmed! This open beta update today has wrecked flying for me. I fly VR and have lost 10 to 20 FPS which has made this flight simulation unplayable for me. Also, this update has done something strange to my Gametrix JetPad meaning that the vibration feedback has been messed up; update must have altered the telemetry data somehow. In short this is a frustrating failure of an update. And why have we got that awful new graph for on-screen FPS counter? The old FPS counter was much better. Why spoil something that used to work well? Not happy with this disaster. And yes, fxo and metashaders2 folders cleared. Talisman Edited October 28, 2022 by Talisman_VR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick33 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, Pasquale1986 said: Hey guys, i can't recenter the view as a VR user - it's unusable at the moment. I used the "View Center" function before. Has anyone got an idea what could has caused this or how to mitigate this problem? Still downloading here but there should be a recentre VR mapping under UI Layer AMD 5800X3D · MSI 4080 · Asus ROG Strix B550 Gaming · HP Reverb Pro · 1Tb M.2 NVMe, 32Gb Corsair Vengence 3600MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · VIRPIL T-50CM3 Base, Alpha Prime R. VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Base. JetSeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talisman_VR Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 2 hours ago, St4rgun said: The VR optimization was mentioned in the newsletter on 14th October as following: "The Weather System includes optimization for VR, and we are confident that this will result in a more stable and smooth experience." VR is now worse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IR.Clutch Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) VR got even worse..ED over-optimized.... I have lost 15 fps Edited October 28, 2022 by IR Sky i7-11700K 5GHz, 64GB DDR4@3200, ZOTAC RTX4090, iiyama 34 Red Eagle || Quest 3, HP Reverb G2, TrackIR 5 || Orion2 F-16EX Viper Throttle Combo, TM Warthog throttle(button box), Virpil WarBRD+Viper stick, VPC interceptor pedals || TM MFD Cougar pack || F-16C, F-15E, AH-64D | Simshaker Jetpad || F-16 Panels: Landing Gear, CMDS, ICP, Avionics, Sensors, Lighting, Air Cond, HUD, Anti Ice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunfreak Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Halos are here. 4 i7 13700k @5.2ghz, GTX 3090, 64Gig ram 4800mhz DDR5, M2 drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiob Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, Talisman_VR said: Very alarmed! This open beta update today has wrecked flying for me. I fly VR and have lost 10 to 20 FPS which has made this flight simulation unplayable for me. Also, this update has done something strange to my Gametrix JetPad meaning that the vibration feedback has been messed up; update must have altered the telemetry data somehow. In short this is a frustrating failure of an update. And why have we got that awful new graph for on-screen FPS counter? The old FPS counter was much better. Why spoil something that used to work well? Not happy with this disaster. And yes, fxo and metashaders2 folders cleared. Talisman You can minimize the graph and only show the fps. 2 1 "Muß ich denn jedes Mal, wenn ich sauge oder saugblase den Schlauchstecker in die Schlauchnut schieben?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schurem Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Looks utterly sweet, especially the Gulf at night. Whoa. Nice one ED! thanks! 2 I5 9600KF, 32GB, 3080ti, G2, PointCTRL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talisman_VR Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Hiob said: You can minimize the graph and only show the fps. Great, more clicking and messing about that I don't need or want whilst using VR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale1986 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 28 minutes ago, Baldrick33 said: Still downloading here but there should be a recentre VR mapping under UI Layer Yep works - thank you. Until this update i used "View center" because you can press and hold it to adjust the camera in VR which was very handy. That doesn't work anymore. And i lost 15 - 20 FPS in VR, too - even in a clean NTTR map (was locked at 45 FPS in 2,7), with occasional micro stuttering... Main Module: AH-64D Personal Wishlist: HH-60G, F-117A, B-52H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugel Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 32 minutes ago, Talisman_VR said: I fly VR and have lost 10 to 20 FPS which has made this flight simulation unplayable for me. I haven´t done any FPS measurements, but yes, it feels like loosing a bunch of FPS for me as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted October 28, 2022 ED Team Share Posted October 28, 2022 Just now, Eugel said: I haven´t done any FPS measurements, but yes, it feels like loosing a bunch of FPS for me as well Depends on your system and how you test I suppose. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiob Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) From a quick test in pancake 4K, I seem to have lost around 10% fps (syria map, f16, clouds) I hope that there is just some handbrake I haven’t found yet. Perhaps it has to do with the shadows that are definitely a bit off atm….. Edited October 28, 2022 by Hiob "Muß ich denn jedes Mal, wenn ich sauge oder saugblase den Schlauchstecker in die Schlauchnut schieben?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5ephir0th Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, NineLine said: Depends on your system and how you test I suppose. Maybe it would help if we get some info ofwhat does it consist those improvement, maybe it only affects SteamVR, maybe it broken OpenXR... NZXT H9 Flow Black | Intel Core i5 13600KF OCed P5.6 E4.4 | Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX | G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5-6000 32GB C30 OCed 6600 C32 | nVidia GeForce RTX 4090 Founders Edition | Western Digital SN770 2TB | Gigabyte GP-UD1000GM PG5 ATX 3.0 1000W | SteelSeries Apex 7 | Razer Viper Mini | SteelSeries Artics Nova 7 | LG OLED42C2 | Xiaomi P1 55" Virpil T-50 CM2 Base + Thrustmaster Warthog Stick | WinWing Orion 2 F16EX Viper Throttle | WinWing ICP | 3 x Thrustmaster MFD | Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals | Oculus Quest 2 DCS World | Persian Gulf | Syria | Flaming Cliff 3 | P-51D Mustang | Spitfire LF Mk. IX | Fw-109 A-8 | A-10C II Tank Killer | F/A-18C Hornet | F-14B Tomcat | F-16C Viper | F-15E Strike Eagle | M2000C | Ka-50 BlackShark III | Mi-24P Hind | AH-64D Apache | SuperCarrier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IR.Clutch Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) 7 минут назад, NineLine сказал: Depends on your system and how you test I suppose. Simple arithmetic. 45-15=30 fps. SteamVR. 3080ti. The configuration has not changed. Just an update. Great improvement.. Edited October 28, 2022 by IR Sky 1 i7-11700K 5GHz, 64GB DDR4@3200, ZOTAC RTX4090, iiyama 34 Red Eagle || Quest 3, HP Reverb G2, TrackIR 5 || Orion2 F-16EX Viper Throttle Combo, TM Warthog throttle(button box), Virpil WarBRD+Viper stick, VPC interceptor pedals || TM MFD Cougar pack || F-16C, F-15E, AH-64D | Simshaker Jetpad || F-16 Panels: Landing Gear, CMDS, ICP, Avionics, Sensors, Lighting, Air Cond, HUD, Anti Ice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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