ED Team BIGNEWY Posted February 11, 2022 ED Team Share Posted February 11, 2022 2022 DCS Newsletter discussion - VKB | FLIR Progress | S-3B Viking https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/news/newsletters/1049004dffda66f74e7e784ec4d55311/ Please use this thread to discuss our newsletter. thank you The Eagle Dynamics Team 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickos86 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 small question - why does ED promote VKB in their weekend update? What about other companies? WINWING just released their awesome F16 set... Many manufacturers release hardware... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gulredrel Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Thanks for sharing S-3 update pictures. Re-modelling of AI assets is very welcome. Coming back to the carrier, missing the wires and having to refuel will be much more immersive with the updated S-3. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beirut Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 15 minutes ago, nickos86 said: small question - why does ED promote VKB in their weekend update? What about other companies? WINWING just released their awesome F16 set... Many manufacturers release hardware... Why not? Business is business. And maybe this is business. 1 Some of the planes, but all of the maps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northstar98 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 (edited) Loving the work on the FLIR, and was definitely pleased to hear about what improvements to terrain we're getting. My only issues so far is that streetlamps have a noticeable bloom around the actual light source: Looking at several videos online, it's much less noticeable: example 1, example 2. Buildings also look very hot compared to say, the road, I'm guessing more tuning will be done to their emmisivity and reflectivity. As for VKB? still eagerly waiting on the TECS. Edited February 11, 2022 by Northstar98 Modules I own: F-14A/B, Mi-24P, AV-8B N/A, AJS 37, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schurem Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Man that looks juicy. Bravo Zulu ED! I5 9600KF, 32GB, 3080ti, G2, PointCTRL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted February 11, 2022 Author ED Team Share Posted February 11, 2022 41 minutes ago, nickos86 said: small question - why does ED promote VKB in their weekend update? What about other companies? WINWING just released their awesome F16 set... Many manufacturers release hardware... We have also shared Virpil news in the past. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gierasimov Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 46 minutes ago, nickos86 said: small question - why does ED promote VKB in their weekend update? What about other companies? WINWING just released their awesome F16 set... Many manufacturers release hardware... Extra income for them? Why not. Intel i7-13700KF :: ROG STRIX Z790-A GAMING WIFI D4 :: Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB :: MSI RTX 4080 Gaming X Trio :: VKB Gunfighter MK.III MCG Ultimate :: VPC MongoosT-50 CM3 :: non-VR :: single player :: open beta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester986 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 S-3 Viking module? I know it would never happen, but I like weird planes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckJäger Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 The new FLIR looks great. Can't come soon enough! Great work guys! Just now, Jester986 said: S-3 Viking module? I know it would never happen, but I like weird planes. I'd buy and fly it! 1 VFA-113 | Stinger 307 | "Hank" USN OEF OIF Veteran i7-8700K OC'd 4800ghz | Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080Ti OC'd | 32gb RAM | 2.5TB SSD | Odyssey + | TM Warthog HOTAS | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gierasimov Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 S-3B Viking could carry 16000 lbs of fuel if my memory serves, right? I wonder how much of this load it can give when 100 nmi from the boat? Intel i7-13700KF :: ROG STRIX Z790-A GAMING WIFI D4 :: Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB :: MSI RTX 4080 Gaming X Trio :: VKB Gunfighter MK.III MCG Ultimate :: VPC MongoosT-50 CM3 :: non-VR :: single player :: open beta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bersagliere81 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 For a moment I hoped the Viking would be... | A-10C | MiG-21bis | Hawk T1.A | L-39 Albatros | F-5E | Ka-50 | Mi-8 | NTTR | CA | SU27 | M2000C | F-86F | AV-8B | F/A-18C | Mig 15 | Mig 19| Specs Intel i7-9700k msi GTX 2060 Gaming Z msi Z390 Gaming PLUS 16gb RAM Hotas Warthog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gzj3401 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Can we expect an FC3 level S-3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northstar98 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 1 hour ago, gzj3401 said: Can we expect an FC3 level S-3? Unlikely, it was mostly geared towards ASW, which is as good as completely absent in DCS World. Plus I'm fairly confident there are no plans for any more low-fidelity aircraft. 1 Modules I own: F-14A/B, Mi-24P, AV-8B N/A, AJS 37, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 3 hours ago, Jester986 said: S-3 Viking module? I know it would never happen, but I like weird planes. Nah, it's just the S-3 update that Wags announced when he was still making F/A-18 educational videos: he said he was holding off on making a IFR tutorial video for the Hornet until the reworked S-3 was done 3 Spoiler Ryzen 9 5900X | 64GB G.Skill TridentZ 3600 | Gigabyte RX6900XT | ASUS ROG Strix X570-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 960Pro 1TB NMVe | HP Reverb G2 Pro Flight Trainer Puma | VIRPIL MT-50CM2+3 base / CM2 x2 grip with 200 mm S-curve extension + CM3 throttle + CP2/3 + FSSB R3L + VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | TPR rudder pedals OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS "HIGH" preset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phant Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 (edited) @Wags @BIGNEWY @NineLine In 2018, Wags referred to the development of a new physics dedicated to in-flight refueling that it would show on the occasion of the release of the new 3D model of the S-3. Can you confirm? Thanks in advance! Bye Phant Edited February 12, 2022 by phant 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATAG_Slipstream Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 FLIR looks amazing! i7-8700K CPU @ 3.70GHz | nVidia GeForce GTX 1060 6GB | 8GB RAM | Windows 11 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4y30n Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Will the new FLIR tech be applied to missile seekers, as well? If they were changed to a contrast lock using the IR imagery then reliability would become more dependent on environmental factors as in real life. Could also be a significant hit to performance, though… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted February 12, 2022 Author ED Team Share Posted February 12, 2022 9 hours ago, phant said: @Wags @BIGNEWY @NineLine In 2018, Wags referred to the development of a new physics dedicated to in-flight refueling that it would show on the occasion of the release of the new 3D model of the S-3. Can you confirm? Thanks in advance! Bye Phant Air to air refuelling is something we want to improve, but I have not ETA, it is currently on the list for the future. thanks 4 3 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldur Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 On 2/12/2022 at 12:40 PM, BIGNEWY said: Air to air refuelling is something we want to improve, but I have not ETA, it is currently on the list for the future. thanks I'm glad to finally see that work on the S-3B overhaul has started. This has been planned since 2018 and the improved physics were mentioned at the same time. I guess it will come when it comes. As for VKB, Virpil, Winwing etc. To be brutally honest: I couldn't care less until at least one of them finally gets themselves out of the comfort zone and bring FFB-capable stuff. I'd buy instantly, if my wallet allows for. And I guarantee, I won't be the only one. The community would instantly take their whole stock in a minute, probably. Why so shy? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester986 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 I don’t see the appeal of FFB. Would it be cool for ww2 stuff? Sure. But most of our planes with hydraulics and fly by wire don’t offer that much feedback anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel_Thunder Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 (edited) On 2/11/2022 at 10:18 AM, Gierasimov said: S-3B Viking could carry 16000 lbs of fuel if my memory serves, right? I wonder how much of this load it can give when 100 nmi from the boat? Fuel capacity for the S-3? It depends. Internal fuel only was 13K (1,933 gallons / 13,144 lbs), but could also carry one bag on each wing which added another 4K (300 gallons each / 2,040 lbs). Max total was 17K. In refueling configuration, it had a refuel pod on the left wing, and a tank on the right wing, which gives it a maximum of 15K at launch. It has to share that 15K of fuel between running it's own engines and providing fuel to other aircraft. Really limited in the refueling capability, but it beats not having any aerial refueling at all when out at sea. To put that in perspective, an F/A-18C with two externals carries just over 14K of gas, while an F-14 with externals carries 20K. In DCS, if you are low fuel in either of those aircraft and go tank off an S3, you can get short filled as you take the S-3's fuel load down to it's minimum. Very noticeable in the Tomcat. Edited February 15, 2022 by Diesel_Thunder 1 PC: MSI X670E, Ryzen 9 7900X, 64GB DDR5 RAM, RTX 3090 Ti, TM Warthog HOTAS, Saitek Pro Flight pedals, Opentrack Link to my Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/DieselThunderAviation Commander, 62nd Virtual Fighter Squadron Join the 62nd VFS today! Link to our discord server: https://discord.gg/Z25BSKk84s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draconus Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 16 hours ago, Jester986 said: I don’t see the appeal of FFB. Would it be cool for ww2 stuff? Sure. But most of our planes with hydraulics and fly by wire don’t offer that much feedback anyway. You're wrong. Afaik even the stiff stick of F-16 moves a bit and needs a force of up to 25lbs to get to max of 9G. Fully movable sticks, even in FBW modern jets, are designed with bob-weight mechanism to add significant force feedback for the pilot. 2 Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX3060 Rift S T16000M TWCS TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sLYFa Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 IRL the stick moves when you trim it, so you basically put the stick where you want it and use the trim hat to remove the force which is the opposite of what you do with a spring centered stick, where the stick is moved back to center while trimming. IMO that would already go a long way, not to mention trim release for helicopters. Couldn't care less about any shaking effects though. i5-8600k @4.9Ghz, 2080ti , 32GB@2666Mhz, 512GB SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St4rgun Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Back in 2005 I used to have some Genius FFB stick and used with Condor soaring simulator for practice soaring for my IRL lessions. That was a blast, to just stand still on the field waiting for the winch and have my ailerons moved by the headwind and my stick moved with in sync with it... According to my knowledge the whole FFB era faded because of some mandatory royalty fees (patents). Right now I'm using VKB stick with curved extendsion and TM F16 grip. It's falwless and extremely precise, but for helos it would be nice to have some forced trim. PC: 10700K | Gigabyte Z490 | Palit 3090 GamingPro | 32GB | Win10 HMD: HP Reverb G2 | OpenXR @ 120% | OpenXR Toolkit: exposure, brightness, saturation | DCS 2.9: DLAA with Sharpening 0.5 (no upscaling) Controllers: VKB Gunfighter MkIII base & 200 mm curved extension center mounted + TM F16 Grip / MCG Pro Grip | TM TFRP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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