upyr1 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 On 2/11/2022 at 2:24 PM, F-2 said: You can get dassault to support your mod and use their trademark names, their website even used to have a section for licensed sims. The problem is they apparently charge a lot of money for this, to the tune of thousands of dollars and cease and desist those that don’t pay up or use names like “rc01” and “m2000” and then your on your own for data. I think the Rafale as a decent chance though with its recent export success. F1 standard is very simple. I have some papers on “RADANT” the basis of RBE2 PESA giving a basic idea how it works. https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/P ... d39e38af2f https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA301940.pdf https://patents.justia.com/assignee/thomson-csf-radant https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/en ... nned-array https://www.microwavejournal.com/articl ... ys-part-ii https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/d ... 1&type=pdf Official modes and capabilities https://omnirole-rafale.com/avionique/rbe2/ I'd contribute if someone started a kick starter to cover their fees. If we get the Rafale I would love to have the Charles de Gaul and some French destroyers and frigates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBS17 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 8:16 AM, F-2 said: http://www.artist-embedded.org/docs/Events/2007/IMA/Slides/ARTIST2_IMA_Cornilleau.pdf PowerPoint with a graphic of the F1’s various mission computers. There are more units in the real aircraft than what is there in that picture. It is an awesome aircraft in DCS a Rafale would kick ass. It flies better though with Super Hornet Engines. If you should see video of a Rafale in HIGH ALPHA then it is using Super Hornet Engines most likely. [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick10 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 The French are fun/kooky guys. They’ve launched a comic book based around the rafale And I reckon they would be up for licensing this gorgeous jet as part of their marketing push (I want the M) if given a chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furiz Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Thy have their own "sim" with Rafale but it is not even close to what ED could do if given the oportunity, maybe in the future we get the chance. M F2 variant would be most welcomme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upyr1 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Can we at least get them as AI with the Charles de gaulle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furiz Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 I guess that is denied too, there could be lots of AI aircraft in DCS like Rafale, Gripen, Alphajet, Eurofighter (that one is coming), Super Etendard etc... Then again Tornado is there as AI... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furiz Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Come to think of it Rafale M F1 wouldn't be much interesting to broad player base since it would have only AA capabilities - Magic II and MICA. F2 would be much more interesting with its Multi-Role capabilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashayar Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 On 5/15/2022 at 12:35 AM, SUBS17 said: There are more units in the real aircraft than what is there in that picture. It is an awesome aircraft in DCS a Rafale would kick ass. It flies better though with Super Hornet Engines. If you should see video of a Rafale in HIGH ALPHA then it is using Super Hornet Engines most likely. I thought they were using snecma M88 motors. That's what I saw here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snecma_M88), but I am not an expert... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furiz Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 8 hours ago, Ashayar said: I thought they were using snecma M88 motors. That's what I saw here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snecma_M88), but I am not an expert... Never hear of Rafale using Super Hornet engines, it is using Snecma M88 since 1996 as far as I know, and Super hornet wasn't there at that time. Maybe I'm wrong, I didn't double check to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashayar Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 13 hours ago, Furiz said: Never hear of Rafale using Super Hornet engines, it is using Snecma M88 since 1996 as far as I know, and Super hornet wasn't there at that time. Maybe I'm wrong, I didn't double check to be honest. As i read, they used Hornet's motors while waiting for the M-88, but it didin't take as long. OK, I was not all wrong this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furiz Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 On 5/31/2022 at 9:49 AM, Ashayar said: As i read, they used Hornet's motors while waiting for the M-88, but it didin't take as long. OK, I was not all wrong this time Yes, that's true, hornet engines were used briefly, I'd say F1 standard variant was there for operational testing, and for them to see if they could use true multi-role fighter, Rafale then proved it can be quite useful and then they went with F2 variant with multi-role capabilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashayar Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, Furiz said: Yes, that's true, hornet engines were used briefly, I'd say F1 standard variant was there for operational testing, and for them to see if they could use true multi-role fighter, Rafale then proved it can be quite useful and then they went with F2 variant with multi-role capabilities. Yes! And even if we can only have the F1 version, I'll be happy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furiz Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, Ashayar said: Yes! And even if we can only have the F1 version, I'll be happy! That would be a great start, even tho F1 was AA only. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-2 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 so another user mentioned this but apparently in the 2000's their was a Rafale F2 simulator developed by a Thales engineer. I think I found their old website https://web.archive.org/web/20060220044801/http://rafale-f2.france-simulation.com/ apparently the demo was released into the wild. I was going to propose looking for it and maybe sending it to the Rafale mod teams? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar133 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 this Thales engineer has been fired . too close to the real systems , and Dassault really don't like that . bad idea . 2 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] https://www.facebook.com/RSDvirtuel/ Ryzen 7950X / Z670E - 32Gb DDR5 6000CAS36 - 4070TI - ReverbG2 - Hotas Cougar FSSBR1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furiz Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 4 hours ago, Cougar133 said: this Thales engineer has been fired . too close to the real systems , and Dassault really don't like that . bad idea . Yep but it was about 15 years ago, lots changed from then till now, F2 standard is retired. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furiz Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Here is their official simulator: https://www.dassault-aviation.com/en/passion/discovery/rafale-experience/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-2 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA301940.pdf https://patents.justia.com/assignee/thomson-csf-radant https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/electronically-scanned-array Some papers on how the “RADANT” antenna, the basis of the RBE2 PESA works. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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