reported Default VFA-37: Too many modexes

[Nealius]

Often when flying online, other clients see the default VFA-37 livery, but it appears to be the wrong one with multiple modexes. 

I know this is low priority, so is there an interim workaround via description.lua edits or anything the users can do to fix it until an official fix is out? Or better yet, is there a way we can choose our own default livery instead of VFA-37? 

 

[Recluse]

I misunderstood... content removed. See Nealius's post below.

Edited March 14, 2022 by Recluse
I wuz wrong

[Nealius]

If other players online select a livery that you (nor the server) have, it defaults to the above picture, which looks hideous with the modexes plastered all over it like wall grafitti. 

I want to get rid of that default and replace it with a default of my choosing, so that when other players chose a livery I don't have, I see something that looks like an actual Navy jet instead of that abomination. 

[Recluse]

Just now, Nealius said:

If other players online select a livery that you (nor the server) have, it defaults to the above picture, which looks hideous with the modexes plastered all over it like wall grafitti. 

I want to get rid of that default and replace it with a default of my choosing, so that when other players chose a livery I don't have, I see something that looks like an actual Navy jet instead of that abomination. 

OK got it! I figured I was missing something!

[BIGNEWY]

Not seeing any issue 

[BarTzi]

16 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

Not seeing any issue 

Happens in MP. If I use a livery that you don't have installed, you will see it like I'm using the 37 livery with the excessive modex types as shown by OP.

[BIGNEWY]

Right so its a problem with the custom livery? If ours is correct in game or am I misunderstanding this?

[BarTzi]

10 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

Right so its a problem with the custom livery? If ours is correct in game or am I misunderstanding this?

The other way around. When the default VFA-37 livery is used as a place holder, instead of a custom livery that is not installed on your machine, it is displayed with all of the available modex types, as shown by OP. That's the issue.

 

Edited March 14, 2022 by BarTzi

[raus]

45 minutes ago, BarTzi said:

The other way around. When the default VFA-37 livery is used as a place holder, instead of a custom livery that is not installed on your machine, it is displayed with all of the available modex types, as shown by OP. That's the issue.

 

 

I can confirm that. Yesterday we flew a MP sortie and one of the flight members did not have the liveries we were using, so he might have selected something different I did not have... and I was seeing him exactly like the picture posted.

[Nealius]

Screenshot from MP yesterday:

Also note that if you open the Hornet in ModelViewer, this super-modex livery appears by default. If you select VFA-37, the livery appears normally.

 

I have tried removing the display order line from the VFA-37's default.lua file and putting it in the VFA-192 default.lua so I can change the default livery, but it does not appear to work.

Edited March 14, 2022 by Nealius

[Nealius]

"Can not reproduce" because the proper steps to reproduce the issue have not been taken.

1. Join MP

2. Client other than self selects livery that self does not have installed

3. Observe livery error

Edited March 18, 2022 by Nealius

[JSF_Aggie]

I get it, just doing the Hornet's Syria Free Flight Instant Action mission.  Both myself and the AI wingman have it.  No changes to the mission were made.

ModexTest.trk

Edited March 18, 2022 by JSF_Aggie

[Nealius]

Instant action single player? That's the first I've seen the issue in SP. I guess the root cause is deeper than just MP/uninstalled liveries as I initially thought..

Edited March 18, 2022 by Nealius

[JSF_Aggie]

Just now, Nealius said:

Instant action single player? That's the first I've seen the issue in SP. I guess the root cause is deeper than just MP/uninstalled liveries.

Yes sir, for me at least. 

[VFA41_Lion]

9 hours ago, JSF_Aggie said:

I get it, just doing the Hornet's Syria Free Flight Instant Action mission.  Both myself and the AI wingman have it.  No changes to the mission were made.

ModexTest.trk 107.71 kB · 0 downloads

 

Yeah, same for me too. Instant action syria free flight mission:

[Rissala]

+1 can also confirm
something is wrong with the way the modexes are created

[Megalax]

This is because all of the bort number entries are activated in the default livery's description.lua :

 

Quote

{"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_L_100", 0 ,"F18C_1_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_L_100", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_1_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_L_100", DECAL ,"F18C_bort_number2",true};
    
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_L_10", 0 ,"F18C_1_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_L_10", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_1_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_L_10", DECAL ,"F18C_bort_number2",true};    

    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_L_01", 0 ,"F18C_1_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_L_01", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_1_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_L_01", DECAL ,"F18C_bort_number2",true};
    

    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_R_100", 0 ,"F18C_1_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_R_100", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_1_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_R_100", DECAL ,"F18C_bort_number2",true};
    
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_R_10", 0 ,"F18C_1_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_R_10", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_1_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_R_10", DECAL ,"F18C_bort_number2",true};    

    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_R_01", 0 ,"F18C_1_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_R_01", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_1_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_R_01", DECAL ,"F18C_bort_number2",true};    
    
    
    

    
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_ZAK_L_100", 0 ,"F18C_2_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_ZAK_L_100", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_2_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_ZAK_L_100", DECAL ,"F18C_bort_number2",true};
    
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_ZAK_L_10", 0 ,"F18C_2_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_ZAK_L_10", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_2_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_ZAK_L_10", DECAL ,"F18C_bort_number2",true};    

    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_ZAK_L_01", 0 ,"F18C_2_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_ZAK_L_01", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_2_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_ZAK_L_01", DECAL ,"F18C_bort_number2",true};
    
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_ZAK_R_100", 0 ,"F18C_2_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_ZAK_R_100", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_2_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_ZAK_R_100", DECAL ,"F18C_bort_number2",true};
    
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_ZAK_R_10", 0 ,"F18C_2_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_ZAK_R_10", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_2_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_ZAK_R_10", DECAL ,"F18C_bort_number2",true};    

    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_ZAK_R_01", 0 ,"F18C_2_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_ZAK_R_01", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_2_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_ZAK_R_01", DECAL ,"F18C_bort_number2",true};

    
    
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_L_100", 0 ,"F18C_2_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_L_100", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_2_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_L_100", DECAL ,"F18C_bort_number2",true};
    
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_L_10", 0 ,"F18C_2_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_L_10", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_2_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_L_10", DECAL ,"F18C_bort_number2",true};    

    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_L_01", 0 ,"F18C_2_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_L_01", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_2_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_L_01", DECAL ,"F18C_bort_number2",true};    
    
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_R_100", 0 ,"F18C_2_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_R_100", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_2_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_R_100", DECAL ,"F18C_bort_number2",true};
    
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_R_10", 0 ,"F18C_2_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_R_10", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_2_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_R_10", DECAL ,"F18C_bort_number2",true};    

    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_R_01", 0 ,"F18C_2_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_R_01", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_2_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_R_01", DECAL ,"F18C_bort_number2",true};        

    
    
    
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_kuw_L_100", 0 ,"F18C_1_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_kuw_L_100", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_1_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_kuw_L_100", DECAL ,"empty",true};
    
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_kuw_L_10", 0 ,"F18C_1_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_kuw_L_10", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_1_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_kuw_L_10", DECAL ,"empty",true};    

    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_kuw_L_01", 0 ,"F18C_1_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_kuw_L_01", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_1_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_kuw_L_01", DECAL ,"empty",true};
    

    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_kuw_R_100", 0 ,"F18C_1_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_kuw_R_100", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_1_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_kuw_R_100", DECAL ,"empty",true};
    
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_kuw_R_10", 0 ,"F18C_1_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_kuw_R_10", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_1_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_kuw_R_10", DECAL ,"empty",true};    

    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_kuw_R_01", 0 ,"F18C_1_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_kuw_R_01", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_1_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_kuw_R_01", DECAL ,"empty",true};        
    

    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Kuw_R_100", 0 ,"F18C_2_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Kuw_R_100", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_2_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Kuw_R_100", DECAL ,"empty",true};
    
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Kuw_R_10", 0 ,"F18C_2_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Kuw_R_10", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_2_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Kuw_R_10", DECAL ,"empty",true};    

    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Kuw_R_01", 0 ,"F18C_2_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Kuw_R_01", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_2_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Kuw_R_01", DECAL ,"empty",true};    
    
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Kuw_L_100", 0 ,"F18C_2_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Kuw_L_100", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_2_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Kuw_L_100", DECAL ,"empty",true};
    
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Kuw_L_10", 0 ,"F18C_2_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Kuw_L_10", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_2_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Kuw_L_10", DECAL ,"empty",true};    

    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Kuw_L_01", 0 ,"F18C_2_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Kuw_L_01", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_2_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Kuw_L_01", DECAL ,"empty",true};        

    
    

    
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_fin_L_10", 0 ,"F18C_1_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_fin_L_10", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_1_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_fin_L_10", DECAL ,"empty",true};    

    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_fin_L_01", 0 ,"F18C_1_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_fin_L_01", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_1_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_fin_L_01", DECAL ,"empty",true};
    

    
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_fin_R_10", 0 ,"F18C_1_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_fin_R_10", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_1_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_fin_R_10", DECAL ,"empty",true};    

    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_fin_R_01", 0 ,"F18C_1_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_fin_R_01", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_1_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_NOSE_fin_R_01", DECAL ,"empty",true};            
    
    

    
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Switz_R_100", 0 ,"F18C_2_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Switz_R_100", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_2_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Switz_R_100", DECAL ,"empty",true};
    
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Switz_R_10", 0 ,"F18C_2_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Switz_R_10", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_2_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Switz_R_10", DECAL ,"empty",true};    

    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Switz_R_01", 0 ,"F18C_2_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Switz_R_01", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_2_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Switz_R_01", DECAL ,"empty",true};    
    
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Switz_L_100", 0 ,"F18C_2_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Switz_L_100", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_2_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Switz_L_100", DECAL ,"empty",true};
    
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Switz_L_10", 0 ,"F18C_2_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Switz_L_10", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_2_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Switz_L_10", DECAL ,"empty",true};    

    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Switz_L_01", 0 ,"F18C_2_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Switz_L_01", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_2_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_KIL_Switz_L_01", DECAL ,"empty",true};

    
    
    
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_STV_aus_R_10", 0 ,"F18C_1_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_STV_aus_R_10", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_1_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_STV_aus_R_10", DECAL ,"empty",true};    

    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_STV_aus_R_01", 0 ,"F18C_1_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_STV_aus_R_01", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_1_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_STV_aus_R_01", DECAL ,"empty",true};    
    
    
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_STV_aus_L_10", 0 ,"F18C_1_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_STV_aus_L_10", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_1_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_STV_aus_L_10", DECAL ,"empty",true};    

    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_STV_aus_L_01", 0 ,"F18C_1_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_STV_aus_L_01", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_1_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_STV_aus_L_01", DECAL ,"empty",true};        
        

    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_MTW_aus_R_10", 0 ,"F18C_1_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_MTW_aus_R_10", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_1_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_MTW_aus_R_10", DECAL ,"empty",true};    

    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_MTW_aus_R_01", 0 ,"F18C_1_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_MTW_aus_R_01", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_1_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_MTW_aus_R_01", DECAL ,"empty",true};    

    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_MTW_aus_L_10", 0 ,"F18C_1_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_MTW_aus_L_10", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_1_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_MTW_aus_L_10", DECAL ,"empty",true};    

    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_MTW_aus_L_01", 0 ,"F18C_1_DIFF_default",false};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_MTW_aus_L_01", ROUGHNESS_METALLIC ,"F18C_1_DIF_RoughMet",true};
    {"F18C_BORT_NUMBER_MTW_aus_L_01", DECAL ,"empty",true};

So the description.lua just needs some editing to match the rest of the USN skins. This is not present in the VFA-37 livery's description.lua, only for the one labeled "default livery.zip"

Edited April 9, 2022 by Megalax

[Nealius]

Nice find, Megalax. I'll try dropping the VFA-37 default.lua into that default zip and see if it fixes things. I'm guessing that won't pass integrity check, though. 

[CaptPickguard]

I have observed this too. Perhaps the "cannot reproduce" tag should be reconsidered.

[Nealius]

@BIGNEWYThe issue appears to be that DCS is not selecting the default livery at all, but a hardcoded default livery, when clients use liveries other clients do not have installed. This is contrary to the bahavior with the Viper's default livery in similar circumstances.

This is what the default livery should look like:

 

This is what DCS actually loads when no livery is selected:

 

And this is what I see as a client when flying online:

 

When flying online as a client, and the other player has a livery I do not, it should be totally blank as in the "default livery" in the first picture.

Edited March 3 by Nealius

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

On 3/19/2022 at 1:04 AM, VFA41_Lion said:

Yeah, same for me too. Instant action syria free flight mission:

Yup: deserves a BUMP.
It seems whomever at ED last saved this mission, used a livery we don't have access to.

[SkateZilla]

This is not a "VFA-37" / Default Livery issue.

The issue is when a player is using a livery you don't have, the Sim Cannot find that livery on your local drive and the model loads w/ no material definitions or animations for the Modex Groups, and the textures that were applied when it was exported, the exported body texture just happened to be VFA-37.

Player needs to make sure they have any liveries other players may use on said server.

Or Ed can maybe integrate If Not Livery Exists use default parameter.

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

1 hour ago, SkateZilla said:

Player needs to make sure they have any liveries other players may use on said server.

Yes obviously but as stated earlier even default ED missions have that issue, and that is up to ED to fix.

[Nealius]

On 3/13/2024 at 8:12 PM, SkateZilla said:

The issue is when a player is using a livery you don't have, the Sim Cannot find that livery on your local drive and the model loads w/ no material definitions or animations for the Modex Groups, and the textures that were applied when it was exported, the exported body texture just happened to be VFA-37.

Incorrect. The issue is that in this situation it should be displaying the livery named "default" yet it does not. Correct behavior can be seen with the F-16, where the "default" livery is chosen by DCS when the livery cannot be found on the local drive.

This has been explained exhaustively throughout the thread. 

Edited March 19 by Nealius

[Heimz]

Thank you Nealius for bringing this up, It's been this way for a looooong time and kinda sucks ED hasn't done anything about it.   

 

ED, if you need to see it for yourself, go into the 4YA Aerobatics MP Server and choose any F18C slot, they all default to VFA-37 and they always have the spam-modex. 

Edited March 19 by Heimz