OpenXR Guide - Deprecated - This time for real (▀̿Ĺ̯▀̿ ̿)

[VirusAM]

That is strange I used to use Open Composite with my Rift and IL-2 back in the day. Perhaps something has changed there since then.

Yes maybe I was not clear enough... opencomposite was an oculus thing before anything else, it eliminated the need for oculus users to have both oculus and SteamVR software. Later it was ported to WMR
But know I am asking if it is possible to go ave the openxr toolkit working also with oculus
(So nis, fsr, fixed foveted rendering etc)

[Fiztex]

1 час назад, VirusAM сказал:

Yes maybe I was not clear enough... opencomposite was an oculus thing before anything else, it eliminated the need for oculus users to have both oculus and SteamVR software. Later it was ported to WMR
But know I am asking if it is possible to go ave the openxr toolkit working also with oculus
(So nis, fsr, fixed foveted rendering etc)




 

Yes, works great, in my case better than native. Search for "Quest 2" in this topic, it's been discussed before. TLDR - just install OC and OXRTK as usual and you don't need all the WMR stuff.

[diamond26]

9 hours ago, VirusAM said:

Yes maybe I was not clear enough... opencomposite was an oculus thing before anything else, it eliminated the need for oculus users to have both oculus and SteamVR software. Later it was ported to WMR
But know I am asking if it is possible to go ave the openxr toolkit working also with oculus
(So nis, fsr, fixed foveted rendering etc)




 

@VirusAM

I have posted this guide over on Discord when I was using it succesfully.

Steps for Quest 2 users:

Read the instructions as a generic guide (don't bother with WMR ones) from https://forum.dcs.world/topic/295123-update-155-final-openxr-guide-for-wmr-headsets/
You can download OpenXR tools for Windows Mixed Reality and WMR but they are not affecting the Oculus setup, as Oculus is used as the OpenXR runtime

Also NOTE DCS PD should be at 1.0 

A. Download OpenComposite: https://gitlab.com/znixian/OpenOVR/-/tree/openxr - scroll down to 'System Wide Installation' and click download link titled 'OpenComposite Launcher'

Extract the folder and put it somewhere safe (eg. Desktop or Documents folder) 
Run OpenComposite.exe (A small number people reported that they needed to right click 'run as Admin')

B. Delete/Rename your D3DCompiler_47.dll inside the Bin folder of your DCS Install (eg D3DCompiler_47dll.orig) 

C. Download this openvr_api.dll https://znix.xyz/OpenComposite/download.php?arch=x64&branch=openxr and replace the one in your bin folder of your DCS Install 

NOTE: for steps B and C you can also create an OVGME setup to make sure it works every time after DCS updates.
 
D. Set runtime to OpenComposite (Which connects to OpenXR) - On first startup it needs to download DLL's. Wait for that to complete before going to the next step.
NOTE: The app configuration screenshot below is post DCS launch. Initially, you will likely see a blank page. This is normal.

E. Download OpenXR Toolkit: https://mbucchia.github.io/OpenXR-Toolkit/
Install and launch
Launch DCS then CTRL+F2 (or whatever keystroke you've setup inside the toolkit) the menu will only appear inside VR

NOTE: If you had used OpenXR before, then delete opencomposite.ini from DCS folder

 

Edited June 4, 2022 by diamond26

[aceviper]

Loving the new version guys.

Keep up the fantastic work.

Hope ED get on board to make it official.

After trying top gun addon in msfs and coming back to DCS......what an amazing amazing sim this is!!!

Edited June 4, 2022 by aceviper

[dburne]

1 hour ago, aceviper said:

Loving the new version guys.

Keep up the fantastic work.

Hope ED get on board to make it official.

After trying top gun addon in msfs and coming back to DCS......what an amazing amazing sim this is!!!

 

To be clear - Open XR Developer Tools is a third party Mod by a MS employee. Nothing there to be made official by ED. Even in MSFS 2020 Open XR Developer Tools is still a Mod and it was developed and actively updated by a MS employee.

However ED could and I wish they really would take a look at adding the Open XR runtime support natively for DCS. They currently support the Oculus runtime and the Steam VR runtime. Then we would not need to hack the runtime into working with DCS via Open Composite and Open XR. So that is the thing we need to be asking ED to consider, adding native Open XR runtime support for DCS. We can already see the benefits of this in MSFS 2020 which has native Open XR runtime support.

 

[speed-of-heat]

9 minutes ago, dburne said:

To be clear - Open XR Developer Tools is a third party Mod by a MS employee. Nothing there to be made official by ED. Even in MSFS 2020 Open XR Developer Tools is still a Mod and it was developed and actively updated by a MS employee.

However ED could and I wish they really would take a look at adding the Open XR runtime support natively for DCS. They currently support the Oculus runtime and the Steam VR runtime. Then we would not need to hack the runtime into working with DCS via Open Composite and Open XR. So that is the thing we need to be asking ED to consider, adding native Open XR runtime support for DCS. We can already see the benefits of this in MSFS 2020 which has native Open XR runtime support.

 

@BIGNEWYany chance ? 

[BIGNEWY]

16 minutes ago, speed-of-heat said:

@BIGNEWYany chance ? 

We have requested it, but I have no news to share.

[zildac]

1 hour ago, BIGNEWY said:

We have requested it, but I have no news to share.

This would be great...I'm crossing my fingers 

[speed-of-heat]

2 hours ago, BIGNEWY said:

We have requested it, but I have no news to share.

Thanks @BIGNEWY

[dburne]

3 hours ago, BIGNEWY said:

We have requested it, but I have no news to share.

 

Thanks much! This would really help in the performance department in VR.

[USA_Recon]

Some guidance around the opencomposite.ini with DCS would be appreciated - ie where to put it

[Taterbootz]

1.1.3 seems to hit my GPU significantly harder than 1.1.1 does.  I will say I didn’t uninstall 1.1.1 before installing 1.1.3 but I’m not sure if that would cause it or not.  Used the exact same settings (NIS or FSR @ 80, conservative mip, graphic/balanced FFV, 20-40 anti shake, default MR with it set to Auto in OXRDT). 
 

I might try to uninstall and retry the new update tomorrow to see if that was it.  

[VirusAM]

@VirusAM
I have posted this guide over on Discord when I was using it succesfully.
Steps for Quest 2 users:
Read the instructions as a generic guide (don't bother with WMR ones) from https://forum.dcs.world/topic/295123-update-155-final-openxr-guide-for-wmr-headsets/
You can download OpenXR tools for Windows Mixed Reality and WMR but they are not affecting the Oculus setup, as Oculus is used as the OpenXR runtime
Also NOTE DCS PD should be at 1.0 
A. Download OpenComposite: https://gitlab.com/znixian/OpenOVR/-/tree/openxr - scroll down to 'System Wide Installation' and click download link titled 'OpenComposite Launcher'
Extract the folder and put it somewhere safe (eg. Desktop or Documents folder) 
Run OpenComposite.exe (A small number people reported that they needed to right click 'run as Admin')
B. Delete/Rename your D3DCompiler_47.dll inside the Bin folder of your DCS Install (eg D3DCompiler_47dll.orig) 
C. Download this openvr_api.dll https://znix.xyz/OpenComposite/download.php?arch=x64&branch=openxr and replace the one in your bin folder of your DCS Install 
NOTE: for steps B and C you can also create an OVGME setup to make sure it works every time after DCS updates.
 
D. Set runtime to OpenComposite (Which connects to OpenXR) - On first startup it needs to download DLL's. Wait for that to complete before going to the next step.
NOTE: The app configuration screenshot below is post DCS launch. Initially, you will likely see a blank page. This is normal.
E. Download OpenXR Toolkit: https://mbucchia.github.io/OpenXR-Toolkit/
Install and launch
Launch DCS then CTRL+F2 (or whatever keystroke you've setup inside the toolkit) the menu will only appear inside VR
NOTE: If you had used OpenXR before, then delete opencomposite.ini from DCS folder
 

So setting openxr in oculus software is enough to make openxr tools working?
Is also opencomposite working without the need of oculus software?
Your passages seems equal to WMR ones but I don't see any reference to which settings to use in oculus software


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[diamond26]

7 hours ago, VirusAM said:

So setting openxr in oculus software is enough to make openxr tools working?
Is also opencomposite working without the need of oculus software?
Your passages seems equal to WMR ones but I don't see any reference to which settings to use in oculus software


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OpenXR is usually set in Oculus SW. It’s one of the questions asked during installation if I remember, otherwise you can set it in settings. 
Opencomposite does NOT negate the use of oculus software. It’s just a layer to make Oculus work without SteamVR while using OpenXR.

Settings in Oculus SW is up to your liking and your system performance limitations 

[YoYo]

Guys, I didnt use this https://mbucchia.github.io/OpenXR-Toolkit/ , maybe yet  - Im user of SteamVR plus Reshade 5.1 for VR works and LOOKS (especially!) very well.

However I saw here some of very good and promising opinions. Id like to ask people, who used SteamVR + Reshade (sharpness option) - with this OpenXR looks the same, worse, better? 

I especially care about the image sharpening option in VR, I don't know if this OpenXR offers it because I have never installed it.

TY.

[speed-of-heat]

16 minutes ago, YoYo said:

Guys, I didnt use this https://mbucchia.github.io/OpenXR-Toolkit/ , maybe yet  - Im user of SteamVR plus Reshade 5.1 for VR works and LOOKS (especially!) very well.

However I saw here some of very good and promising opinions. Id like to ask people, who used SteamVR + Reshade (sharpness option) - with this OpenXR looks the same, worse, better? 

I especially care about the image sharpening option in VR, I don't know if this OpenXR offers it because I have never installed it.

TY.

Reshade does not work with OXR.

you can achieve similar colour balancing effects.

[edmuss]

18 minutes ago, YoYo said:

Guys, I didnt use this https://mbucchia.github.io/OpenXR-Toolkit/ , maybe yet  - Im user of SteamVR plus Reshade 5.1 for VR works and LOOKS (especially!) very well.

However I saw here some of very good and promising opinions. Id like to ask people, who used SteamVR + Reshade (sharpness option) - with this OpenXR looks the same, worse, better? 

I especially care about the image sharpening option in VR, I don't know if this OpenXR offers it because I have never installed it.

TY.

I've not used reshade personally but...

There are sharpening, saturation, vibrance, colour, brightness and contrast sliders amongst others in mbucchia's openxr toolkit.

Whether or not you find it better would probably be up to you. Best to install it, if you don't get satisfactory results then simple disable it. Just follow they guide explicitly and you should be good

Edited June 5, 2022 by edmuss

[YoYo]

14 minutes ago, edmuss said:

I've not used reshade personally but...

There are sharpening, saturation, vibrance, colour, brightness and contrast sliders amongst others in mbucchia's openxr toolkit.

Whether or not you find it better would probably be up to you. Best to install it, if you don't get satisfactory results then simple disable it. Just follow they guide explicitly and you should be good

 

Thx, Yes I know, but it costs a little time - uninstall Reshade and install + configuration this OpenXR, maybe one day for whole process to find out all the settings and do dozen of tests (I use NIS vesion for MSFS so I know this soft in smaller version a little).

Thanks, its a good news about sharpening for me!

17 minutes ago, speed-of-heat said:

Reshade does not work with OXR.

Yes, I know it, I have to remove it.

Edited June 5, 2022 by YoYo

[edmuss]

You could always just make a copy of your DCS folder, clean/repair that one and test openxr on it, that way you shouldn't need to uninstall reshade I don't think.

[A.F.]

vor 2 Stunden schrieb YoYo:

Guys, I didnt use this https://mbucchia.github.io/OpenXR-Toolkit/ , maybe yet  - Im user of SteamVR plus Reshade 5.1 for VR works and LOOKS (especially!) very well.

However I saw here some of very good and promising opinions. Id like to ask people, who used SteamVR + Reshade (sharpness option) - with this OpenXR looks the same, worse, better? 

I especially care about the image sharpening option in VR, I don't know if this OpenXR offers it because I have never installed it.

TY.

I can only recommend it.
I could not use the F14 via Steamvr and Reshade in MP.
I had stutters when I panned from left to right in the cockpit with the G2.
With OpenXR this problem has disappeared.
 

G2, 2080 Super

[horstweihrauch]

Just curious was there an update in the last days? I got some juicy extra fps in openxr  out of nowhere 

[Caldero]

Hello all, a very unsatisfied Rift S user here

How to uninstall and fully remove this tool? My VR headset and/or DCS are frequently crashing since I installed this according to the steps in the first page of this thread

Thanks & best regards

[Ciribob]

Finally tried this. Thanks for the guide, this has genuinely been revolutionary for me!

DCS is playable now even in multiplayer with my 2080 super and 9700k at 45

Also using the foveated rendering on wide

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[Hammer1-1]

9 hours ago, Caldero said:

Hello all, a very unsatisfied Rift S user here

How to uninstall and fully remove this tool? My VR headset and/or DCS are frequently crashing since I installed this according to the steps in the first page of this thread

Thanks & best regards

RiftS isnt supported, why you installing it?

[mbucchia]

On 6/4/2022 at 2:53 PM, Taterbootz said:

1.1.3 seems to hit my GPU significantly harder than 1.1.1 does.  I will say I didn’t uninstall 1.1.1 before installing 1.1.3 but I’m not sure if that would cause it or not.  Used the exact same settings (NIS or FSR @ 80, conservative mip, graphic/balanced FFV, 20-40 anti shake, default MR with it set to Auto in OXRDT). 
 

I might try to uninstall and retry the new update tomorrow to see if that was it.  

Try to disable HAGS