Very nice performance improvements from 2.7.10 to 2.7.11

[Limaro]

Good afternoon,

as the performance topic is mostly boils up when it's getting bader, I wanted to open this topic to thank ED for the good work - of this time increasing Performance quite noticable.

In my benchmark tracks in Caucasus and Syria, I got these changes:

Caucasus
2.7.10 - 74.7 FPS
2.7.11 - 82.5 FPS + 10,4%

Beirut (Syria)
2.7.10 - 72.5 FPS
2.7.11 - 78.8 FPS + 8,7%

I am curious, if other also experianced this changes - Maybe, with many datasets, we can all help to keep development going in that direction
My PC in short: Ryzen 7 3700X,  AMD 6900XT,  32 GB RAM, Windows 10

Regads

DxDiag.txt Performance_Fly_3_1_Caucasus.trk Performance_Fly_4_1_Beirut.trk

[Strong05]

What resolution and settings in DCS are you using?

[BIGNEWY]

3 minutes ago, Limaro said:

Good afternoon,

as the performance topic is mostly boils up when it's getting bader, I wanted to open this topic to thank ED for the good work - of this time increasing Performance quite noticable.

In my benchmark tracks in Caucasus and Syria, I got these changes:

Caucasus
2.7.10 - 74.7 FPS
2.7.11 - 82.5 FPS + 10,4%

Beirut (Syria)
2.7.10 - 72.5 FPS
2.7.11 - 78.8 FPS + 8,7%

I am curious, if other also experianced this changes - Maybe, with many datasets, we can all help to keep development going in that direction
My PC in short: Ryzen 7 3700X,  AMD 6900XT,  32 GB RAM, Windows 10

Regads

DxDiag.txt 116.23 kB · 1 download Performance_Fly_3_1_Caucasus.trk 48.04 kB · 0 downloads Performance_Fly_4_1_Beirut.trk 42.16 kB · 0 downloads

Good to hear you are seeing an improvement, we are working on more currently. Results will vary from machine to machine I am sure. 

Thanks

[Boosterdog]

56 minutes ago, Limaro said:

Good afternoon,

as the performance topic is mostly boils up when it's getting bader, I wanted to open this topic to thank ED for the good work - of this time increasing Performance quite noticable.

In my benchmark tracks in Caucasus and Syria, I got these changes:

Caucasus
2.7.10 - 74.7 FPS
2.7.11 - 82.5 FPS + 10,4%

Beirut (Syria)
2.7.10 - 72.5 FPS
2.7.11 - 78.8 FPS + 8,7%

I am curious, if other also experianced this changes - Maybe, with many datasets, we can all help to keep development going in that direction
My PC in short: Ryzen 7 3700X,  AMD 6900XT,  32 GB RAM, Windows 10

Regads

DxDiag.txt 116.23 kB · 1 download Performance_Fly_3_1_Caucasus.trk 48.04 kB · 0 downloads Performance_Fly_4_1_Beirut.trk 42.16 kB · 0 downloads

Im also seeing a performance increase broadly in line with this. Roughly 8-10 fps accross the board irrespective of map or module. Would love to see if carrier ops are also improved but all those missions using the much required US Navy Equipment Mod are now broken and the carriers no longer show up in the mission.

Edited March 18, 2022 by Boosterdog

[Limaro]

vor 22 Minuten schrieb Strong05:

What resolution and settings in DCS are you using?

Ups. I made the screenshot, resized it in paint and .. then forgot to upload.... Here are my settings:

Hohe,Hoch = High, Aus = off

I have three extra screens with 800 x  1280 (vertical), which leed to that resolution. Main Screen is 4k.

EDIT: I made this whole performance stuff, as after update performance dropped enormously including many micro stutters. But Reason was: Deprecated or faulty Scripts. After deleting (and installing most recent), everything worked then even better - which first was suspicious to me

Edited March 18, 2022 by Limaro
Forgotten information

[TED]

I was about to post a similar thread and wondering if it was just me or some placebo induced by my enthusiasm for the new ah64!
 

I was initially quite concerned that the Apache would kill my frames in vr. Imagine my surprise when the complete opposite happened. Not only are my frames better, but I’ve been literally on dcs all day trying to learn the ah64 in various maps with all settings on high, my g2 at 100% resolution and actually pushing 120 in per app. Msaa x2 af x16, mv and motion smooth enabled. I did not experience even one stutter today in several hours of testing. 
 

im using a 6900xt, 3800x cpu,.

I dont know what ED has done in the engine but it’s working for me. Everything is just going from strength to strength. 

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

I have also seen a performance improvement, but prior to installing the 2.7.11 patch I also updated both my chipset drivers and graphics card drivers, so it's hard to tell the exact cause of that improvement.

[Tenshi]

4 minutes ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said:

I have also seen a performance improvement, but prior to installing the 2.7.11 patch I also updated both my chipset drivers and graphics card drivers, so it's hard to tell the exact cause of that improvement.

Not a fan of updating drivers (if it works...)

There is indeed a notable boost over the previous version.

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

22 minutes ago, Tenshi said:

Not a fan of updating drivers

I've never had problems because of newer chipset drivers. It's the same with a new BIOS: they usually contain optimisations that can only keep performance at the same level, or improve it.
GPU drivers can be hit-or-miss, but rolling back to a previous version is quick enough and not the end of the world  

Depending on which version of Vulkan DCS is going to run with soon, we might be forced to use a specific driver model as minimum. AMD only supports Vulkan 1.3 in drivers released earlier this year, for example.
 

And then there's also compatibility with Windows: certain Windows features might not work with older drivers.

[Tenshi]

4 minutes ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said:

I've never had problems because of newer chipset drivers. It's the same with a new BIOS: they usually contain optimisations that can only keep performance at the same level, or improve it.
GPU drivers can be hit-or-miss, but rolling back to a previous version is quick enough and not the end of the world  

Depending on which version of Vulkan DCS is going to run with soon, we might be forced to use a specific driver model as minimum. AMD only supports Vulkan 1.3 in drivers released earlier this year, for example.
 

And then there's also compatibility with Windows: certain Windows features might not work with older drivers.

Personally i had issues with both AMD chipset drivers (soft locks) and Nvidia gpu drivers (stutters), but the actual point here is that you can notice a healthy improvement on an "outdated" system.

Vulcan will be a welcome addition, but i wouldn't expect it any time soon. Pretty sure my system will be obsolete by the time it gets implemented into DCS.

[Hiob]

Can confirm performance increase. From 82 to 92 fps in my benchmark scene. Great job ED! Keep it on.

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

I could be wrong, but I get the impression the performance improvement has something to do with the trees in DCS, since even the Marianas map is playable for me now at low level  

[Boosterdog]

2 hours ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said:

I could be wrong, but I get the impression the performance improvement has something to do with the trees in DCS, since even the Marianas map is playable for me now at low level  

Can the same increase can be seen in areas where there is a distinct lack of trees like Nevada? (too lazy to look)

[despinoza]

5 hours ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said:

I could be wrong, but I get the impression the performance improvement has something to do with the trees in DCS, since even the Marianas map is playable for me now at low level  

maybe, marianas in VR still not enjoyable, but al least is not a slide show anymore

[b0bl00i]

Performance is good but I have quite a few ugly cloud, shadow and shallow water artifacts I didn't have before. 

[Mainstay]

Nice for everyone that their FPS is increasing but I’m playing with everything on max settings and I have the feeling that with each update the game starts looking uglier….
 

What do I mean with that? Well for example texture popping of objects in close range. 

Visibility set on extreme and I can’t see as far as I use to be able to see in the distance. 
 

Im sorry but I’m not excited with the route ED has taken to pump out more FPS for the general majority. Why even make settings as extreme and ultra when they don’t deliver what they are supposed to do. 

[Svsmokey]

You do have a point . The LOD bubble is entirely to close in the interest of better performance .

[Ala12Rv-watermanpc]

I have noticed a decreased rendering distance in trees and other stuff, guess that's the reason for the increased performance.

[Magoote]

I agree with the previous opinions, I also see improvements in FPS but losing graphic quality with the same configuration that I had. Especially in the shadows, and on the edges, like the lines of the runway, etc.

Edited April 11, 2022 by Magoote

[Harker]

I have noticed a decreased rendering distance in trees and other stuff, guess that's the reason for the increased performance.

I haven't noticed it, but I haven't looked for it either. If that's indeed the case, it makes no sense at all, since we have both view distance presets and sliders. Why not let people who struggle with FPS lower their settings, while keeping the distances the same (or even increasing them)?

[rcjonessnp175]

7 hours ago, Harker said:

8 hours ago, Ala12Rv-watermanpc said:

I have noticed a decreased rendering distance in trees and other stuff, guess that's the reason for the increased performance.

I haven't noticed it, but I haven't looked for it either. If that's indeed the case, it makes no sense at all, since we have both view distance presets and sliders. Why not let people who struggle with FPS lower their settings, while keeping the distances the same (or even increasing them)?

Noticed last night flying into Nellis, vegas has a mega LOD now.  Im sure others do as well

[silverdevil]

i play a mission in caucus a lot. i took some time off from it. i was flying another plane and mission was CAS. i got back to it and crashed near one of the targets i was after and got a good look at the LOD of the target and it was very detailed. also screenshot of some bullet holes in an A10.

 

[CarbonFox]

Performance on MP servers has gone really south since the latest patch.

[Ddaddy]

Well, got me curious so I did a test on 2.10... updated to 2.11... now DCS crashes during load... off to research and post log file somewhere...

add:  Ok, got that sorted....  I get about 10% FPS with 4 displays at these settings running Reshade

 

Edited April 13, 2022 by Ddaddy
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[MadKreator]

I’ve noticed a performance increase as well. Seems like around the  10-15% range fps wise on 5120x1440 monitor with mostly high settings and draw at extreme. Even with track ir running, reshade turned on and DCS UFC app running through the export.lua file, on a free flight I’m easily hitting the 100-120 fps range( i have fps capped at 120 in nvidia control), 90-95 over dense cities and forests, compared to 95-105 and 75-85 over cities previous to recent OB update. But as others have stated it seems the pop-in is worse, the bubble right below and in the small area around the aircraft is much more noticeable. Especially the shadows on trees flickering  horrendously when looking around with track ir, at least on mine it does.  Not a big deal up high but at low altitudes its pretty annoying. I’d be perfectly content with lower fps if could push the draw distance out to about double what it is and the expand the max rendering bubble(not sure what to call it) out to about 1 one 2 NM , not 40 feet around the aircraft LOL Having those things adjustable in the UI would be great! 

Edited April 22, 2022 by MadKreator