Wizard_03 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Will they be removable in the ME like they are for the Mi-8/24? 4 DCS F/A-18C :sorcerer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaOneSix Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Seems unlikely? They are not exactly as easily removeable as on the Mi-8/Mi-24, where they are just installed with quick pins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grennymaster Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 as far as i know the are not removable. At least i never seen an Apache without them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard_03 Posted October 8, 2021 Author Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) With: Without: Are you all sure They look pretty bolt on too me. Literally just a 90 degree duct. Edited October 8, 2021 by Wizard_03 2 1 DCS F/A-18C :sorcerer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard_03 Posted October 8, 2021 Author Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) More images without them: Edited October 8, 2021 by Wizard_03 DCS F/A-18C :sorcerer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Raptor9 Posted October 8, 2021 ED Team Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Wizard_03 said: Are you all sure They look pretty bolt on too me. Literally just a 90 degree duct. They require quite a lot of doing to install them. It's not an add-on like the up-turned exhaust on the Huey, or the suppressors on the Mi-24/Mi-8. It's an entirely different engine cowling assembly. Having said that, I'm hoping the option will be available at some point as well, that way the other country liveries are more realistic. Edited October 8, 2021 by Raptor9 6 Afterburners are for wussies...hang around the battlefield and dodge tracers like a man. DCS Rotor-Head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard_03 Posted October 8, 2021 Author Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Raptor9 said: They require quite a lot of doing to install them. It's not an add-on like the up-turned exhaust on the Huey, or the suppressors on the Mi-24/Mi-8. It's an entirely different engine cowling assembly. Having said that, I'm hoping the option will be available at some point as well. Oh I see, Yeah I just hadn't noticed the upturned ones until ED released that teaser. They don't seem like they are integrated with any systems other then the cowling. Do all D models have them? Edited October 8, 2021 by Wizard_03 DCS F/A-18C :sorcerer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Raptor9 Posted October 8, 2021 ED Team Share Posted October 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Wizard_03 said: Do all D models have them? Only US Army Apaches as far as I know. A lot of people think it's an E-model thing, but the upturned exhausts began to get fielded to the Apache fleet as early as 2007, which pre-dated the first AH-64E deliveries by 4 years. In fact, the very first AH-64E's didn't have them initially. 1 Afterburners are for wussies...hang around the battlefield and dodge tracers like a man. DCS Rotor-Head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard_03 Posted October 8, 2021 Author Share Posted October 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Raptor9 said: Only US Army Apaches as far as I know. A lot of people think it's an E-model thing, but the upturned exhausts began to get fielded to the Apache fleet as early as 2007, which pre-dated the first AH-64E deliveries by 4 years. In fact, the very first AH-64E's didn't have them initially. Oh ok, well yeah I think we should have them optional in game if that's the case. I don't see how that would be unrealistic since the model is from 2005 to 2010. I know they probably make things safer from IR missiles but God are they ugly lol 2 DCS F/A-18C :sorcerer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRTX Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 vor 2 Stunden schrieb Wizard_03: I know they probably make things safer from IR missiles but God are they ugly lol Me: looks at the rest of an Apache. Chunky flying boxes of death. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinistripes Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 12 hours ago, Wizard_03 said: I know they probably make things safer from IR missiles but God are they ugly lol It's not a fashion show! Look at the Mi-28, THEN you will know ugly. 1 Valve Index | RTX 3070 Ti (Mobile) | i7-12700H @ 2.7GHz | 16GB RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remco Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 I think we're all hoping for the ASPI to be optional, but I may be biased 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Raptor9 Posted October 9, 2021 ED Team Share Posted October 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Remco said: I think we're all hoping for the ASPI to be optional, but I may be biased I think it would be cool to have the other, non-US liveries with the non-ASPI exhaust. It also requires some doing for maintainers to install/un-install the FCR, but thankfully we are getting that as an option. We'll just have to see what happens down the road and hope it turns in our favor. 3 Afterburners are for wussies...hang around the battlefield and dodge tracers like a man. DCS Rotor-Head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalcoGer Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Weird. They said no, but then they show videos with them bent up. What gives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Raptor9 Posted October 28, 2021 ED Team Share Posted October 28, 2021 6 hours ago, FalcoGer said: Weird. They said no, but then they show videos with them bent up. What gives? Read the thread. Afterburners are for wussies...hang around the battlefield and dodge tracers like a man. DCS Rotor-Head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick50 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Not expert... but while almost all pics of ROK Apaches show the old style, I could have sworn I saw a new ROK Guardian that had the upturned exhaust type, in a video about a female South Korean gunship pilot!! then again, the Guardian is an E not a D anyway soooo... yea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) the ASPI was integrated mid-life to the AH-64D (2005?/OIF), it was added to suppress the IR signature from the exhaust by venting it up into the cool air from the rotors, reducing the overall heat signature. Edited April 11, 2022 by SkateZilla 1 Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 So we can't take them off then? The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaOneSix Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Not currently planned to be able to. Maybe at some future date. At least that is my understanding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okopanja Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 18 hours ago, joey45 said: So we can't take them off then? Not for the Block Modelled, by this block and year they were fully deployed and installed full time. During initial fielding (2001-2003/04?) they took them off when the Apache's were back home and rotated them to ones deploying, especially to OIF, Once the Army had enough they were mounted full time as it's not a simple process to install/uninstall. it doesn't simply bolt overtop of the existing exhaust, the whole rear assembly/cowling is removed and the ASPI Exhaust is installed in it's place. The ASPI Exhaust is part of the ASE Upgrade 1 3 Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Thank you. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcoatuk Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 This Modification is US Army only. It would be great if we could have either on or off. There are plenty of other AH64D users with different liveries. Both on and off please for realism 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted February 23, 2022 ED Team Share Posted February 23, 2022 Yes, we have been very clear that we are doing the US Army Version. 3 2 Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macedk Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 I thought I was seeing weird stuff. Now educated OS: Win10 home 64bit*MB: Asus Strix Z270F/ CPU: Intel I7 7700k /Ram:32gb_ddr4 GFX: Nvidia Asus 1080 8Gb Mon: Asus vg2448qe 24" Disk: SSD Stick: TM Warthog #1400/Saitek pro pedals/TIR5/TM MFDs [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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