Nodak Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/512-59-clean-version.433367/ Just get a pre cleaned up driver and don't waste your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoneySD Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 I have a feeling this is a stupid question but does OpenXR // Open Composite work in DCS wit Pimax 8kx? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmuss Posted May 15, 2022 Author Share Posted May 15, 2022 Currently I don't believe that the pimax headsets support OXR natively. I think it's possible to use pimax with OC but it adds in an additional translation layer which in theory will hurt performance. From what I understand, the OXRTK devs are planning on working with pimax hardware. I'm not sure what the end goal is but I suspect it will be to get OXR supported natively. Ryzen7 7800X3D / RTX3080ti / 64GB DDR5 4800 / Varjo Aero / Leap Motion / Kinect Headtracking TM 28" Warthog Deltasim Hotas / DIY Pendular Rudders / DIY Cyclic Maglock Trimmer / DIY Abris / TM TX 599 evo wheel / TM T3PA pro / DIY 7+1+Sequential Shifter / DIY Handbrake / Cobra Clubman Seat Shoehorned into a 43" x 43" cupboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr. Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 6 hours ago, edmuss said: Currently I don't believe that the pimax headsets support OXR natively. I think it's possible to use pimax with OC but it adds in an additional translation layer which in theory will hurt performance. From what I understand, the OXRTK devs are planning on working with pimax hardware. I'm not sure what the end goal is but I suspect it will be to get OXR supported natively. Might want to ask this guy. Ryzen 7 5800X3D | 64GB DDR4 3600| MSI RTX 4080 16GB Ventus 3X OC | Samsung 970 Evo 2TB NVME | HP Reverb G2 | DIY Head Tracker Cap | Logitech X-56 throttle | VKB NXT Premium | Win 11 "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --Arthur C Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoneySD Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 17 minutes ago, Sr. said: Might want to ask this guy. Thanks! I'll check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmuss Posted May 15, 2022 Author Share Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) To be fair he's getting >90 fps using a 3090ti at approximately 75% G2 resolution. I think I can almost get performance like that high over water with my 3070 Edited May 15, 2022 by edmuss Ryzen7 7800X3D / RTX3080ti / 64GB DDR5 4800 / Varjo Aero / Leap Motion / Kinect Headtracking TM 28" Warthog Deltasim Hotas / DIY Pendular Rudders / DIY Cyclic Maglock Trimmer / DIY Abris / TM TX 599 evo wheel / TM T3PA pro / DIY 7+1+Sequential Shifter / DIY Handbrake / Cobra Clubman Seat Shoehorned into a 43" x 43" cupboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr. Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 22 minutes ago, edmuss said: To be fair he's getting >90 fps using a 3090ti at approximately 75% G2 resolution. I think I can almost get performance like that high over water with my 3070 Right. I found myself saying, "try that over Caucuses in the A-10 or Apache" Ryzen 7 5800X3D | 64GB DDR4 3600| MSI RTX 4080 16GB Ventus 3X OC | Samsung 970 Evo 2TB NVME | HP Reverb G2 | DIY Head Tracker Cap | Logitech X-56 throttle | VKB NXT Premium | Win 11 "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --Arthur C Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikoel Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 41 minutes ago, edmuss said: To be fair he's getting >90 fps using a 3090ti at approximately 75% G2 resolution. I think I can almost get performance like that high over water with my 3070 Yeah, I have to agree. He is idling the 12900/3090ti with so much overhead that when there is a frame time spike it doesn't go above 11ms. Each to their own I guess - amazing performance at 3060-like levels of visuals Maybe a life in aviation made me a little more cynical than most. But, why do I have the feeling that his video is primarily designed as a sales strategy towards getting his followers and viewers to purchase a Pimax Headset? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmuss Posted May 15, 2022 Author Share Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) Just a quick test, A10 @ angels12 over the eastern sticky outy bit of Cyprus and I'm getting 80 fps. G2 @ 75% with the same FFR and the same settings except I have standard clouds not high. Not sure what map he's on, guessing its PG which I don't have. I'm not suprised that he's beating refresh rate given that he's got at least 2500 quid invested in the hardware edit: @ZoneySD yes it is possible to run DCS via OXR with a pimax. Performance wise Vs SVR I don't know if there's an increase. The video posted proves it can be done but the hardware used is so capable of brute forcing the frametimes that it proves nothing. Edited May 15, 2022 by edmuss Ryzen7 7800X3D / RTX3080ti / 64GB DDR5 4800 / Varjo Aero / Leap Motion / Kinect Headtracking TM 28" Warthog Deltasim Hotas / DIY Pendular Rudders / DIY Cyclic Maglock Trimmer / DIY Abris / TM TX 599 evo wheel / TM T3PA pro / DIY 7+1+Sequential Shifter / DIY Handbrake / Cobra Clubman Seat Shoehorned into a 43" x 43" cupboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 MR... try switching it off in OXRDT, and leaving it unlocked in OXRTK ... it seems to work ... better ... much better... 1 SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmuss Posted May 15, 2022 Author Share Posted May 15, 2022 26 minutes ago, speed-of-heat said: MR... try switching it off in OXRDT, and leaving it unlocked in OXRTK ... it seems to work ... better ... much better... As in disabling MR altogether? Which bit works better? Ryzen7 7800X3D / RTX3080ti / 64GB DDR5 4800 / Varjo Aero / Leap Motion / Kinect Headtracking TM 28" Warthog Deltasim Hotas / DIY Pendular Rudders / DIY Cyclic Maglock Trimmer / DIY Abris / TM TX 599 evo wheel / TM T3PA pro / DIY 7+1+Sequential Shifter / DIY Handbrake / Cobra Clubman Seat Shoehorned into a 43" x 43" cupboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr. Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, edmuss said: As in disabling MR altogether? Which bit works better? I have it disabled, running at 60Hz... it's heaven. Ryzen 7 5800X3D | 64GB DDR4 3600| MSI RTX 4080 16GB Ventus 3X OC | Samsung 970 Evo 2TB NVME | HP Reverb G2 | DIY Head Tracker Cap | Logitech X-56 throttle | VKB NXT Premium | Win 11 "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --Arthur C Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmuss Posted May 15, 2022 Author Share Posted May 15, 2022 14 minutes ago, Sr. said: I have it disabled, running at 60Hz... it's heaven. Yeah the 60Hz is the key, beating refresh rate makes VR all the better. 60Hz just moved the goalposts to make it easier to achieve Ryzen7 7800X3D / RTX3080ti / 64GB DDR5 4800 / Varjo Aero / Leap Motion / Kinect Headtracking TM 28" Warthog Deltasim Hotas / DIY Pendular Rudders / DIY Cyclic Maglock Trimmer / DIY Abris / TM TX 599 evo wheel / TM T3PA pro / DIY 7+1+Sequential Shifter / DIY Handbrake / Cobra Clubman Seat Shoehorned into a 43" x 43" cupboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zildac Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Sorry the 60hz thing just hurts, I wish it didn't. Even a CRT monitor at 60hz these days is painful. Having two of them strapped to my head and a few CMs away from my eyes is even worse 1 12900KF | Maximus Hero Z690 | ASUS 4090 TUF OC | 64GB DDR5 5200 | DCS on 2TB NVMe | WarBRD+Warthog Stick | CM3 | TM TPR's | Varjo Aero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmuss Posted May 15, 2022 Author Share Posted May 15, 2022 Yeah it's a shame that there's not another distinct step like Oculus does with the 72Hz, might open it up a bit more for people. 1 Ryzen7 7800X3D / RTX3080ti / 64GB DDR5 4800 / Varjo Aero / Leap Motion / Kinect Headtracking TM 28" Warthog Deltasim Hotas / DIY Pendular Rudders / DIY Cyclic Maglock Trimmer / DIY Abris / TM TX 599 evo wheel / TM T3PA pro / DIY 7+1+Sequential Shifter / DIY Handbrake / Cobra Clubman Seat Shoehorned into a 43" x 43" cupboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 No not disabling all together... Just in OXRDT, leaving it enabled in the toolkit. I didn't think it would work... But 45fps little or no wobble 1 1 SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr. Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 43 minutes ago, zildac said: Sorry the 60hz thing just hurts, I wish it didn't. Even a CRT monitor at 60hz these days is painful. Having two of them strapped to my head and a few CMs away from my eyes is even worse I think it's luck of the draw.... I don't even notice a flicker. Ryzen 7 5800X3D | 64GB DDR4 3600| MSI RTX 4080 16GB Ventus 3X OC | Samsung 970 Evo 2TB NVME | HP Reverb G2 | DIY Head Tracker Cap | Logitech X-56 throttle | VKB NXT Premium | Win 11 "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --Arthur C Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zildac Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 I think it's luck of the draw.... I don't even notice a flicker.You're right. For me personally, it's not comfortable 1 12900KF | Maximus Hero Z690 | ASUS 4090 TUF OC | 64GB DDR5 5200 | DCS on 2TB NVMe | WarBRD+Warthog Stick | CM3 | TM TPR's | Varjo Aero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmuss Posted May 15, 2022 Author Share Posted May 15, 2022 57 minutes ago, speed-of-heat said: No not disabling all together... Just in OXRDT, leaving it enabled in the toolkit. I didn't think it would work... But 45fps little or no wobble Ah so set to enabled in the toolkit but disabled in the dev tools, not tried that will have a look 1 Ryzen7 7800X3D / RTX3080ti / 64GB DDR5 4800 / Varjo Aero / Leap Motion / Kinect Headtracking TM 28" Warthog Deltasim Hotas / DIY Pendular Rudders / DIY Cyclic Maglock Trimmer / DIY Abris / TM TX 599 evo wheel / TM T3PA pro / DIY 7+1+Sequential Shifter / DIY Handbrake / Cobra Clubman Seat Shoehorned into a 43" x 43" cupboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, edmuss said: Ah so set to enabled in the toolkit but disabled in the dev tools, not tried that will have a look Ack SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werewolf_fs Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 hace 2 horas, speed-of-heat dijo: MR... try switching it off in OXRDT, and leaving it unlocked in OXRTK ... it seems to work ... better ... much better... I was just coming to comment on this. I usually keep it ALWAYS ON activated in the OpenXR Developer Tools for Windows Mixed Reality, so I can use the "all steps" of MR in DCS (90/45/30/20). But this morning I decided to turn it off in the app and activate it in UNLOCKED mode in openxr tools 1.1.0 and the MR is much better, much, much, much better!... as it says "SoH"... So good!!. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmuss Posted May 15, 2022 Author Share Posted May 15, 2022 43 minutes ago, speed-of-heat said: Ack 2 Ryzen7 7800X3D / RTX3080ti / 64GB DDR5 4800 / Varjo Aero / Leap Motion / Kinect Headtracking TM 28" Warthog Deltasim Hotas / DIY Pendular Rudders / DIY Cyclic Maglock Trimmer / DIY Abris / TM TX 599 evo wheel / TM T3PA pro / DIY 7+1+Sequential Shifter / DIY Handbrake / Cobra Clubman Seat Shoehorned into a 43" x 43" cupboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 11 minutes ago, edmuss said: SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr. Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 3 hours ago, speed-of-heat said: No not disabling all together... Just in OXRDT, leaving it enabled in the toolkit. I didn't think it would work... But 45fps little or no wobble Man! That's the ticket Ryzen 7 5800X3D | 64GB DDR4 3600| MSI RTX 4080 16GB Ventus 3X OC | Samsung 970 Evo 2TB NVME | HP Reverb G2 | DIY Head Tracker Cap | Logitech X-56 throttle | VKB NXT Premium | Win 11 "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --Arthur C Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmuss Posted May 15, 2022 Author Share Posted May 15, 2022 I don't see any difference between OXRDT MR disabled with OXRTK MR always on vs OXRDT MR always on with OXRTK MR always on. I still get distortion of the pitot tube, wing ordnance and MFD glare shields in the A10 and bubbling around the mirrors and on the ABRIS in the KA50; it's the same with both options. That said, it is certainly better than it was when OC_ACC was first applied to DCS. As a matter of fact, on a whim I re-enabled MR a couple of nights ago and noticed that it's far less artifacty than it used to be. Still not as good as SVR but certainly far more useable Ryzen7 7800X3D / RTX3080ti / 64GB DDR5 4800 / Varjo Aero / Leap Motion / Kinect Headtracking TM 28" Warthog Deltasim Hotas / DIY Pendular Rudders / DIY Cyclic Maglock Trimmer / DIY Abris / TM TX 599 evo wheel / TM T3PA pro / DIY 7+1+Sequential Shifter / DIY Handbrake / Cobra Clubman Seat Shoehorned into a 43" x 43" cupboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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