henshao Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 currently in DCS at no range can the F-15 identify an F-18 (in my experience). I believe also the Hind evades NCTR from F-15. I have not checked against every module but these two would be a good place to start investigating this problem. F-15 seems to be able to identify most aircraft from more than 20 miles otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draconus Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) Units F/A-18C Hornet "lot 20" and Mi-24 Hind "P" are not recognised. NCTR.trk Edited April 5, 2022 by draconus 1 Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX3060 Rift S T16000M TWCS TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henshao Posted March 29, 2022 Author Share Posted March 29, 2022 ok I think we are supposed to tag @BIGNEWY for this kind of thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 5, 2022 ED Team Share Posted April 5, 2022 Hi, we have had the team check and they are seeing no issues. thanks 1 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draconus Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 1 hour ago, BIGNEWY said: we have had the team check and they are seeing no issues. Does it mean the dev version does not show issues or they think it works as it should? I can still run my track at current beta and it shows both units that are not recognised by NCTR system. Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX3060 Rift S T16000M TWCS TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henshao Posted April 5, 2022 Author Share Posted April 5, 2022 1 hour ago, draconus said: Does it mean the dev version does not show issues or they think it works as it should? I can still run my track at current beta and it shows both units that are not recognised by NCTR system. yes perhaps we need to include an f-16 and a mig-29 to show how the system works with every other aircraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draconus Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 10 hours ago, henshao said: yes perhaps we need to include an f-16 and a mig-29 to show how the system works with every other aircraft What do you mean? I did not tested these as the targets. Otoh Mig-29 does not have NCTR system and F-16 has not implemented it yet. @Flappie Can you confirm my track showing the problem? Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX3060 Rift S T16000M TWCS TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacarino111 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Hi. I wasn't very confident on how to use the NCTR system, so I tried a simple mission, and I found quite a few "UKN". Here is my ".trk". Haven't tried any further, because I found it was more than enough to prove the point. I would like to see a .trk from @BIGNEWYor someone from ED's Team (no rant, honest) to understand where or what am I doing wrong! Saludos. Saca111. F15NCTRTest.trk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 7 hours ago, draconus said: @Flappie Can you confirm my track showing the problem? I'm testing them all and will report my findings here. 1 Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Here goes: Tornado GR4 is displayed as "T2IDS" (when Tornado IDS is not recognized at all) And these are never recognized by NCTR: AJS-37 C-101CC C-101EB F-5E-3 (when the old AI F-5E is correctly identified) F-14A-135-GR (when the old F-14A is correctly identified) F-14B F-16CM bl.50 F/A-18C Lot 20 (when other variants are correctly identified) F-86F H-6J J-11A JF-17 L-39C L-39ZA M-2000C MiG-15bis MiG-19P MiG-21bis Tornado IDS Yak-40 and Christen Eagle II are not recognized either, but I guess this is kind of expected. And I assume MQ-1, MQ-9, WingLoong-I, Yak-52 are irrelevant since they don't have a reactor and can be approached without taking too much risk. Is that correct? F-15C NCTR test.trk 2 Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draconus Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Flappie said: Yak-40 and Christen Eagle II are not recognized either, but I guess this is kind of expected. And I assume MQ-1, MQ-9, WingLoong-I, Yak-52 are irrelevant since they don't have a reactor and can be approached without taking too much risk. Is that correct? Reactor? I don't know - I guess most military aircraft should be recognized and have some radar profile data. Great job, btw. Here's 10 helicopters track that are not recognized either: AH-64D_BLK_II Mi-8MT Mi-24P Mi-28N OH-58D SA342L SA342M SA342Minigun SA342Mistral with the exception of UH-1H shwoing as AB212, which might be correct as "Agusta-Bell AB 212 - Civil or military utility transport version. Built under license in Italy by Agusta" is somewhat related. F-15C NCTR helicopters.trk Edited April 7, 2022 by draconus 1 1 Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX3060 Rift S T16000M TWCS TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 6, 2022 ED Team Share Posted April 6, 2022 team have reported. thanks Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henshao Posted April 6, 2022 Author Share Posted April 6, 2022 12 hours ago, draconus said: What do you mean? I did not tested these as the targets. Otoh Mig-29 does not have NCTR system and F-16 has not implemented it yet. @Flappie Can you confirm my track showing the problem? I meant test against these it seems someone has already provided exhaustive list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacarino111 Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 11 hours ago, draconus said: Reactor? I don't know - I guess most military aircraft should be recognized and have some radar profile data. Great job, btw. Hi. If I am not mistaken, the NCTR is based on the radar reflection of the compressor blades. si I guess the hellos should be recognized if faced on (the gas turbine has blades, don't they?) but I don't know about propellers driven planes... Saludos Cheers Saca111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draconus Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 50 minutes ago, Sacarino111 said: If I am not mistaken, the NCTR is based on the radar reflection of the compressor blades. si I guess the hellos should be recognized if faced on (the gas turbine has blades, don't they?) but I don't know about propellers driven planes... Propeller or rotor can also be used afaik. As always with FC3 - system is simplified and also: Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX3060 Rift S T16000M TWCS TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacarino111 Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 3 hours ago, draconus said: Propeller or rotor can also be used afaik. As always with FC3 - system is simplified and also: Hi. Thanks for the answer. Good to know. Saludos. Saca111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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