Hector45 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) Hi guys, seemingly out of no where I'm getting a crash to desktop when in external view at altitude in multiplayer. 3 of the crashes to desktop I have gotten no error message. One time it crashed and blue screened "Unexpected store exception". So far I've performed a slow DCS repair, deleted fxo and metashaders2 folder which have not fixed the problem. Attached is a copy of the latest dcs.log. Any help would be greatly appreciated. dcs.log.old Edited March 28, 2022 by Hector45 Modules: F-14A/B | F-15C | F-16C | F/A-18C | SU-33 | Spitfire Mk IX | AH-64D | UH-1 | Super Carrier | Combined Arms | Persian Gulf | Syria | NTTR Setup: VKB Gunfighter Mk.III F-14 CE HOTAS | Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle | MFG Crosswind V3 | Custom switch panel | Tek Creations F14 Display Panel | Custom F14 Left Vertical Console | Custom IR Tracker | Custom butt kicker PC: i7 11700K | 64GB G-Skill DDR4 3600MHz | EVGA GeForce RTX 3080Ti FTW3 | DCS dedicated 2TB M.2 NVMe SSD | 3440x1440 144hz 34" ultrawide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog-IC Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 39 minutes ago, Hector45 said: Hi guys, seemingly out of no where I'm getting a crash to desktop when in external view at altitude in multiplayer. One time it crashed and blue screened "Unexpected store exception". So far I've performed a slow DCS repair, deleted fxo and metashaders2 folder which have not fixed the problem. Log is showing problems: Nvidia GPU drivers referenced in the crash log, you should uninstall them, download and run DDU cleaner and reload the fresh drivers. Lua code errors, maybe related to MODS (FRENCHPACK V4.8), suggest uninstalling all MODS if fresh load of GPU drivers doesn't resolve issue. Regards, Ian. Asus p877v-pro, Intel I7 3770k 4.2ghz, 32gb Ripjaw X ram, Nvidia RTX-2070 Super, Samsung 32" TV, Saitek x52 pro Joystick and Combat rudder pedals, TrackIR 5, Win8.1 x64 with SSD and SSHD protected by (Avast AV). DCS Tech Support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector45 Posted March 28, 2022 Author Share Posted March 28, 2022 Thank you, will try it and report back. Modules: F-14A/B | F-15C | F-16C | F/A-18C | SU-33 | Spitfire Mk IX | AH-64D | UH-1 | Super Carrier | Combined Arms | Persian Gulf | Syria | NTTR Setup: VKB Gunfighter Mk.III F-14 CE HOTAS | Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle | MFG Crosswind V3 | Custom switch panel | Tek Creations F14 Display Panel | Custom F14 Left Vertical Console | Custom IR Tracker | Custom butt kicker PC: i7 11700K | 64GB G-Skill DDR4 3600MHz | EVGA GeForce RTX 3080Ti FTW3 | DCS dedicated 2TB M.2 NVMe SSD | 3440x1440 144hz 34" ultrawide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector45 Posted March 28, 2022 Author Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) Uninstalled driver and ran DDU cleaner, installed fresh and new Nvidia driver 512.15. Crashed on me again. Uninstalled FRENCHPACK V4.8 mod, stress test lasted 1 hour 3 minutes and finally crashed to desktop again.dcs.20220328-212648.crashdcs.logdcs.20220328-212648.dmp ETA: not exactly a "stress" test, just ran the game in multiplayer in external view. Edited March 28, 2022 by Hector45 Modules: F-14A/B | F-15C | F-16C | F/A-18C | SU-33 | Spitfire Mk IX | AH-64D | UH-1 | Super Carrier | Combined Arms | Persian Gulf | Syria | NTTR Setup: VKB Gunfighter Mk.III F-14 CE HOTAS | Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle | MFG Crosswind V3 | Custom switch panel | Tek Creations F14 Display Panel | Custom F14 Left Vertical Console | Custom IR Tracker | Custom butt kicker PC: i7 11700K | 64GB G-Skill DDR4 3600MHz | EVGA GeForce RTX 3080Ti FTW3 | DCS dedicated 2TB M.2 NVMe SSD | 3440x1440 144hz 34" ultrawide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) You should check your RAM. Try re-seating it in its slot(s), then run a memory test (MemTest or Windows Memory diagnostic). And if none of the above works, try disabling XMP. Edited March 28, 2022 by Flappie Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector45 Posted March 29, 2022 Author Share Posted March 29, 2022 No dice, this time crash happened while in single player mission. Screen went black/froze and computer restarted. dcs.log dcs.log.old Modules: F-14A/B | F-15C | F-16C | F/A-18C | SU-33 | Spitfire Mk IX | AH-64D | UH-1 | Super Carrier | Combined Arms | Persian Gulf | Syria | NTTR Setup: VKB Gunfighter Mk.III F-14 CE HOTAS | Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle | MFG Crosswind V3 | Custom switch panel | Tek Creations F14 Display Panel | Custom F14 Left Vertical Console | Custom IR Tracker | Custom butt kicker PC: i7 11700K | 64GB G-Skill DDR4 3600MHz | EVGA GeForce RTX 3080Ti FTW3 | DCS dedicated 2TB M.2 NVMe SSD | 3440x1440 144hz 34" ultrawide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector45 Posted March 29, 2022 Author Share Posted March 29, 2022 Another crash to desktop, it seems very consistent timewise, about an hour before it crashes. Temps look fine though.dcs.logdcs.20220329-134122.dmpdcs.20220329-134122.crash Modules: F-14A/B | F-15C | F-16C | F/A-18C | SU-33 | Spitfire Mk IX | AH-64D | UH-1 | Super Carrier | Combined Arms | Persian Gulf | Syria | NTTR Setup: VKB Gunfighter Mk.III F-14 CE HOTAS | Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle | MFG Crosswind V3 | Custom switch panel | Tek Creations F14 Display Panel | Custom F14 Left Vertical Console | Custom IR Tracker | Custom butt kicker PC: i7 11700K | 64GB G-Skill DDR4 3600MHz | EVGA GeForce RTX 3080Ti FTW3 | DCS dedicated 2TB M.2 NVMe SSD | 3440x1440 144hz 34" ultrawide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector45 Posted March 29, 2022 Author Share Posted March 29, 2022 So putting a 60FPS frame cap seems to have solved the issue. Thinking its either the PSU or GPU. Modules: F-14A/B | F-15C | F-16C | F/A-18C | SU-33 | Spitfire Mk IX | AH-64D | UH-1 | Super Carrier | Combined Arms | Persian Gulf | Syria | NTTR Setup: VKB Gunfighter Mk.III F-14 CE HOTAS | Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle | MFG Crosswind V3 | Custom switch panel | Tek Creations F14 Display Panel | Custom F14 Left Vertical Console | Custom IR Tracker | Custom butt kicker PC: i7 11700K | 64GB G-Skill DDR4 3600MHz | EVGA GeForce RTX 3080Ti FTW3 | DCS dedicated 2TB M.2 NVMe SSD | 3440x1440 144hz 34" ultrawide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 (edited) Please try this: Empty "C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Temp\DCS.openbeta" Empty "C:\Users\username\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\metashaders2" Empty "C:\Users\username\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\fxo" And most importantly, empty "C:\ProgramData\NVIDIA Corporation\NV_Cache" (Windows might refuse to delete some files unrelated to DCS - just hit "Ignore") EDIT: ah, some progress at last. Edited March 29, 2022 by Flappie Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector45 Posted April 13, 2022 Author Share Posted April 13, 2022 Well thought I'd post an update, this problem still plagues me and its not a DCS issue. I'm having CDT in all games and i cannot figure what the problem is. I've even swapped GPU's with someone else to rule that out, problem remains. If any of you have any idea's I'd def appreciate it! Modules: F-14A/B | F-15C | F-16C | F/A-18C | SU-33 | Spitfire Mk IX | AH-64D | UH-1 | Super Carrier | Combined Arms | Persian Gulf | Syria | NTTR Setup: VKB Gunfighter Mk.III F-14 CE HOTAS | Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle | MFG Crosswind V3 | Custom switch panel | Tek Creations F14 Display Panel | Custom F14 Left Vertical Console | Custom IR Tracker | Custom butt kicker PC: i7 11700K | 64GB G-Skill DDR4 3600MHz | EVGA GeForce RTX 3080Ti FTW3 | DCS dedicated 2TB M.2 NVMe SSD | 3440x1440 144hz 34" ultrawide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) Maybe it's the PSU, then? One last thing to try before blaming the PSU: set your Windows Power settings to "High performance". Edited April 13, 2022 by Flappie Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector45 Posted April 13, 2022 Author Share Posted April 13, 2022 Just checked and i already have it set to high performance. Modules: F-14A/B | F-15C | F-16C | F/A-18C | SU-33 | Spitfire Mk IX | AH-64D | UH-1 | Super Carrier | Combined Arms | Persian Gulf | Syria | NTTR Setup: VKB Gunfighter Mk.III F-14 CE HOTAS | Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle | MFG Crosswind V3 | Custom switch panel | Tek Creations F14 Display Panel | Custom F14 Left Vertical Console | Custom IR Tracker | Custom butt kicker PC: i7 11700K | 64GB G-Skill DDR4 3600MHz | EVGA GeForce RTX 3080Ti FTW3 | DCS dedicated 2TB M.2 NVMe SSD | 3440x1440 144hz 34" ultrawide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Have you tried the NVIDIA control panel Debug mode yet? Open the NVIDIA control panel > Help > Debug mode. You can also click the "Restore default settings" link on the main page. Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector45 Posted April 18, 2022 Author Share Posted April 18, 2022 CONCLUSION: If anyone is still following this, I finally found out what my issue was. My RAM was getting too hot causing the XMP OC to become unstable. Every Time RAM temps reached >59C I would run into a CTD. With XMP disabled, memory would still run hot reaching 60C while gaming, but it will only crash at those temps when XMP is enabled. Now the question is, why is my RAM running so hot! Modules: F-14A/B | F-15C | F-16C | F/A-18C | SU-33 | Spitfire Mk IX | AH-64D | UH-1 | Super Carrier | Combined Arms | Persian Gulf | Syria | NTTR Setup: VKB Gunfighter Mk.III F-14 CE HOTAS | Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle | MFG Crosswind V3 | Custom switch panel | Tek Creations F14 Display Panel | Custom F14 Left Vertical Console | Custom IR Tracker | Custom butt kicker PC: i7 11700K | 64GB G-Skill DDR4 3600MHz | EVGA GeForce RTX 3080Ti FTW3 | DCS dedicated 2TB M.2 NVMe SSD | 3440x1440 144hz 34" ultrawide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Thanks for your feedback. Check if another piece of hardware is in contact with your RAM (CPU radiator, MOBO radiator, or GPU for instance). Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector45 Posted April 24, 2022 Author Share Posted April 24, 2022 On 4/18/2022 at 2:47 AM, Flappie said: Thanks for your feedback. Check if another piece of hardware is in contact with your RAM (CPU radiator, MOBO radiator, or GPU for instance). Issue was the two top 140mm AIO fans doubling as exhaust fans were set too slow. CPU didn't need them fast but RAM definitely does especial with the 3080Ti dumping all that heat into the case. Ended up connecting them to my manual fan controller. When gaming I just jack them all the way up. 1 1 Modules: F-14A/B | F-15C | F-16C | F/A-18C | SU-33 | Spitfire Mk IX | AH-64D | UH-1 | Super Carrier | Combined Arms | Persian Gulf | Syria | NTTR Setup: VKB Gunfighter Mk.III F-14 CE HOTAS | Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle | MFG Crosswind V3 | Custom switch panel | Tek Creations F14 Display Panel | Custom F14 Left Vertical Console | Custom IR Tracker | Custom butt kicker PC: i7 11700K | 64GB G-Skill DDR4 3600MHz | EVGA GeForce RTX 3080Ti FTW3 | DCS dedicated 2TB M.2 NVMe SSD | 3440x1440 144hz 34" ultrawide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverdevil Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 memory can be very temperamental. have you tried memory with heat sink? but yeah airflow is important too. AKA_SilverDevil AKA Forums My YouTube “It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.” — Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector45 Posted April 25, 2022 Author Share Posted April 25, 2022 19 hours ago, silverdevil said: memory can be very temperamental. have you tried memory with heat sink? but yeah airflow is important too. Yeah it's the G-Skill Trident Z so it has heat spreaders Modules: F-14A/B | F-15C | F-16C | F/A-18C | SU-33 | Spitfire Mk IX | AH-64D | UH-1 | Super Carrier | Combined Arms | Persian Gulf | Syria | NTTR Setup: VKB Gunfighter Mk.III F-14 CE HOTAS | Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle | MFG Crosswind V3 | Custom switch panel | Tek Creations F14 Display Panel | Custom F14 Left Vertical Console | Custom IR Tracker | Custom butt kicker PC: i7 11700K | 64GB G-Skill DDR4 3600MHz | EVGA GeForce RTX 3080Ti FTW3 | DCS dedicated 2TB M.2 NVMe SSD | 3440x1440 144hz 34" ultrawide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverdevil Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) On 4/13/2022 at 11:14 AM, Flappie said: Have you tried the NVIDIA control panel Debug mode yet? Open the NVIDIA control panel > Help > Debug mode. this will prove if GFX OC is making game crash. Edited May 19, 2022 by silverdevil AKA_SilverDevil AKA Forums My YouTube “It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.” — Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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