Hawkeye91 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Trying to do landings like at 2:45 and currently it feels like no matter how soft I try to touch I can’t do a proper aero brake. It feels like the nose is always forced down after the main gears touch down as of the plane is way too nose heavy. Im able to pull the nose back up after it touches but sometimes trying to pull it up causes me to become airborne again as it takes quite a lot of aft stick to get those back up and when it does start to move, it goes really fast. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 It's been a while since I last flew the Viggen, but don't remember ever attempting to aerobrake .. why do it when you've got a thrust reverser? 1 For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye91 Posted March 29, 2022 Author Share Posted March 29, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said: It's been a while since I last flew the Viggen, but don't remember ever attempting to aerobrake .. why do it when you've got a thrust reverser? Because it’s a realistic technique when landing at airports used to save on brakes and engine wear and tear when a short field effort isn’t required. It’s even listed as a technique in Hearblur’s manual. Edited March 29, 2022 by Hawkeye91 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYSE1234 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 (edited) I just "finished" this earlier today. Give it a spin and see what you think. Unfortunately it does not pass IC, so it's singleplayer only. Any feedback is very welcome. AJS37 realistic suspention.zip Edited March 30, 2022 by MYSE1234 1 2 Viggen is love. Viggen is life. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7-10700K @ 5GHz | RTX 2070 OC | 32GB 3200MHz RAM | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye91 Posted March 29, 2022 Author Share Posted March 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, MYSE1234 said: I just "finished" this earlier today. Give it a spin and see what you think. Unfortunately it does not pass IC, so it's singleplayer only. AJS37 realistic suspention.zip 2.21 kB · 0 downloads Interesting, so it could be more related to the suspension physics than the flight model? I was wondering if it’s possible the wheel trucks weren’t pitching back enough and causing a nose down force I feel on landing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYSE1234 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Hawkeye91 said: Interesting, so it could be more related to the suspension physics than the flight model? I was wondering if it’s possible the wheel trucks weren’t pitching back enough and causing a nose down force I feel on landing. Maybe not 100% due to the suspension, but it does seem to be a major factor. Everything gets easier with the mod above: Takeoff, landing.. Basically anything that has to to with the aircraft touching the ground is improved. 2 2 Viggen is love. Viggen is life. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7-10700K @ 5GHz | RTX 2070 OC | 32GB 3200MHz RAM | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye91 Posted March 29, 2022 Author Share Posted March 29, 2022 1 hour ago, MYSE1234 said: Maybe not 100% due to the suspension, but it does seem to be a major factor. Everything gets easier with the mod above: Takeoff, landing.. Basically anything that has to to with the aircraft touching the ground is improved. Is ground handling and take and landing FM something on HB’s radar to fix/improve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojyrocks Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Well I already did notify of this apparent change in the FM behaviour, but the devs said, FM model had not been changed. It was doable before. But now, no matter how much I try to land softer, the nose comes down quick. At present state, doing an aerobrake on a Viggen is impossible. You can however just pull the nose up again for an aerobrake, after the nose comes down while attempting the aerobraking after that flare touchdown. But cannot maintain it in the first. I do hope they get this fixed in the upcoming patches. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye91 Posted March 30, 2022 Author Share Posted March 30, 2022 5 hours ago, jojyrocks said: Well I already did notify of this apparent change in the FM behaviour, but the devs said, FM model had not been changed. It was doable before. But now, no matter how much I try to land softer, the nose comes down quick. At present state, doing an aerobrake on a Viggen is impossible. You can however just pull the nose up again for an aerobrake, after the nose comes down while attempting the aerobraking after that flare touchdown. But cannot maintain it in the first. I do hope they get this fixed in the upcoming patches. Yes! Thank you! I swore I used to be able to aero brake properly but it felt like something changed, but I wasn’t sure if I was remembering correctly. @IronMike Is this something you guys at Heatblur could look into? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLTeo Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 It's really weird how ground handling is so inconsistent and messy in DCS to be honest. The Viggen is not the first model to be affected by some similar issue. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outbaxx Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Maybe not 100% due to the suspension, but it does seem to be a major factor. Everything gets easier with the mod above: Takeoff, landing.. Basically anything that has to to with the aircraft touching the ground is improved.Yes this is better with your mod. I thought it was good a few updates ago too but something happened on some update. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagdgeschwader Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 (edited) Am 29.3.2022 um 23:50 schrieb MYSE1234: I just "finished" this earlier today. Give it a spin and see what you think. Unfortunately it does not pass IC, so it's singleplayer only. Any feedback is very welcome. AJS37 realistic suspention.zip 2 kB · 13 Downloads Hi MYSE1234, your mod is truly amazing, but I ran into a problem with the beginning of taxiing. Before, it was necessary to give a little bit throttle forward and the plane began to move, but now I need to give half of the throttle to start taxiing and when doing so, the plane jumps forward and then I have to press the brakes to stop it . Edited April 11, 2022 by Jagdgeschwader "If we don't end war, war will end us." H. G. Wells Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYSE1234 Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Jagdgeschwader said: Hi MYSE1234, your mod is truly amazing, but I ran into a problem with the beginning of taxiing. Before, it was necessary to give a little bit throttle forward and the plane began to move, but now I need to give half of the throttle to start taxiing and when doing so, the plane jumps forward and then I have to press the brakes to stop it . It's been fixed, just not uploaded anywhere. AJS37 realistic suspention 110422.zip 1 3 Viggen is love. Viggen is life. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7-10700K @ 5GHz | RTX 2070 OC | 32GB 3200MHz RAM | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagdgeschwader Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 vor 19 Stunden schrieb MYSE1234: It's been fixed, just not uploaded anywhere. AJS37 realistic suspention 110422.zip 2 kB · 1 Download Thanks a lot!! I think HB should hire you for such great mods 2 1 "If we don't end war, war will end us." H. G. Wells Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graphene Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 12.04.2022 в 17:59, Jagdgeschwader сказал: Thanks a lot!! I think HB should hire you for such great mods + 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIghtymoo Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 On 4/11/2022 at 8:59 PM, MYSE1234 said: It's been fixed, just not uploaded anywhere. AJS37 realistic suspention 110422.zip 2.3 kB · 19 downloads Great mod. Have you contacted HB? Should be an easy fix for them to implement? 1 Intel i9 13900K | RTX4090 | 64 Gb DDR4 3600 CL18 | 2Tb PCIe4.0 | Varjo Aero | Pico 4 on WIFI6e | Virtual Desktop running VDXR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYSE1234 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 28 minutes ago, MIghtymoo said: Great mod. Have you contacted HB? Should be an easy fix for them to implement? Thanks! I most certainly have done that. 3 Viggen is love. Viggen is life. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7-10700K @ 5GHz | RTX 2070 OC | 32GB 3200MHz RAM | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIghtymoo Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, MYSE1234 said: Thanks! I most certainly have done that. Hope they implement. Edited April 21, 2022 by MIghtymoo 1 Intel i9 13900K | RTX4090 | 64 Gb DDR4 3600 CL18 | 2Tb PCIe4.0 | Varjo Aero | Pico 4 on WIFI6e | Virtual Desktop running VDXR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagdgeschwader Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Hi. Is there any update on the Realistic suspension mod for the Viggen? 3 "If we don't end war, war will end us." H. G. Wells Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye91 Posted July 21, 2022 Author Share Posted July 21, 2022 Huzza! I can finally aerobrake! Thank you Heatblur for the suspension update! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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