huchanronaa Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Why does the upper helicopter rotor disappear after pressing alt+j to take control of ah-64d?This is a very strange phenomenon, Don't know how to fix it or a bug? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted March 31, 2022 ED Team Share Posted March 31, 2022 Hi, please include a track replay showing it happen, when I test it seems fine for me. thank you Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowman Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Hi All. I have also come across this issue with the AH-64 and it occours when taking control from or giving control to the AI system using R-ALT+J and happens with a Hot Start, checked on the caucasus map no mods or tweeks installed, I will try a few more methods to see if happens consistantly, please find attached a couple of tracks showing the issue, hope this helps. JC#01 AH-64D Loses Main Rotor Blades.trk JC#02 AH-64D Loses Main Rotor Blades.trk Chilliblast, ASUS P8-Z77-V Pro, I7 3770K@3-5GHz, 16GB Corsair PC-3 12800 DDR3 @1600MHz, MSi GTX 1080 8GB, Creative SBZ, Logitech LT Z906 5.1, ASUS 24"Monitor 1080 60Hz,120GB SSD, 1TB SSD, 2TB HDD, 4TB HDD, Corsair CX 750W PSu, Win 10 Home Prem 64bit, TM Warthog, TM T Flight Pedals. Track IR, Occulus Rift S, Black Shark SA, DCS A-10C SA, All DCS Current Aircraft Modules, DCS 2.5 Stable and Beta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted March 31, 2022 ED Team Share Posted March 31, 2022 Blades seem ok for me in your tracks can I confirm you are not using game flight or game avionics in the dcs gameplay settings tab. Game modes are creating problems currently Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowman Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Hi Bignewy I can confirm I am not using game mode at all, I have noticed the tracks are not catching some other issues I am encountering, so I will attach a video capture of issues to confirm as well as a track. Thanks for the reply. Chilliblast, ASUS P8-Z77-V Pro, I7 3770K@3-5GHz, 16GB Corsair PC-3 12800 DDR3 @1600MHz, MSi GTX 1080 8GB, Creative SBZ, Logitech LT Z906 5.1, ASUS 24"Monitor 1080 60Hz,120GB SSD, 1TB SSD, 2TB HDD, 4TB HDD, Corsair CX 750W PSu, Win 10 Home Prem 64bit, TM Warthog, TM T Flight Pedals. Track IR, Occulus Rift S, Black Shark SA, DCS A-10C SA, All DCS Current Aircraft Modules, DCS 2.5 Stable and Beta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowman Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Hi Bignewy I went through the option screen and can reconfirm game mode is not selected on either of the two options, I have tried to attach a video file but is too big, will try again with a shorter vid hopefully showing the issue, unfortunatly the vids are larger than 5MB, attached a screen shot showing the issue, hope it helps. Chilliblast, ASUS P8-Z77-V Pro, I7 3770K@3-5GHz, 16GB Corsair PC-3 12800 DDR3 @1600MHz, MSi GTX 1080 8GB, Creative SBZ, Logitech LT Z906 5.1, ASUS 24"Monitor 1080 60Hz,120GB SSD, 1TB SSD, 2TB HDD, 4TB HDD, Corsair CX 750W PSu, Win 10 Home Prem 64bit, TM Warthog, TM T Flight Pedals. Track IR, Occulus Rift S, Black Shark SA, DCS A-10C SA, All DCS Current Aircraft Modules, DCS 2.5 Stable and Beta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huchanronaa Posted March 31, 2022 Author Share Posted March 31, 2022 Same for me, ED denied but this weird bug does exist 21 minutes ago, Crowman said: Hi Bignewy I went through the option screen and can reconfirm game mode is not selected on either of the two options, I have tried to attach a video file but is too big, will try again with a shorter vid hopefully showing the issue, unfortunatly the vids are larger than 5MB, attached a screen shot showing the issue, hope it helps. Same for me, ED denied but this weird bug does exist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted March 31, 2022 ED Team Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, huchanronaa said: Same for me, ED denied but this weird bug does exist I can not reproduce, its not about denying, to report the issue I need to reproduce. Please remove any unofficial mods if any, run a slow repair of DCS or verify if steam retry after and if it still happens please attach the dcs.log straight after so we can look for clues. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huchanronaa Posted March 31, 2022 Author Share Posted March 31, 2022 2 hours ago, BIGNEWY said: I can not reproduce, its not about denying, to report the issue I need to reproduce. Please remove any unofficial mods if any, run a slow repair of DCS or verify if steam retry after and if it still happens please attach the dcs.log straight after so we can look for clues. reproduce as follows: This is an AI-flying AH-64D, with the upper rotor visible When I press ALT+J to take control, the upper rotor disappears: This is an obvious bug, I'm surprised why it wasn't found in the test Hope BIGNEWY will understand and fix it soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowman Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Hi Bignewy Removed Tacview (was only mod installed), carried out slow repair as requested and retested, fault still apparent, so please find attached logs immediatly post testing, hope they help. dcs.log debrief.log Chilliblast, ASUS P8-Z77-V Pro, I7 3770K@3-5GHz, 16GB Corsair PC-3 12800 DDR3 @1600MHz, MSi GTX 1080 8GB, Creative SBZ, Logitech LT Z906 5.1, ASUS 24"Monitor 1080 60Hz,120GB SSD, 1TB SSD, 2TB HDD, 4TB HDD, Corsair CX 750W PSu, Win 10 Home Prem 64bit, TM Warthog, TM T Flight Pedals. Track IR, Occulus Rift S, Black Shark SA, DCS A-10C SA, All DCS Current Aircraft Modules, DCS 2.5 Stable and Beta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted March 31, 2022 ED Team Share Posted March 31, 2022 6 hours ago, huchanronaa said: reproduce as follows: This is an AI-flying AH-64D, with the upper rotor visible When I press ALT+J to take control, the upper rotor disappears: This is an obvious bug, I'm surprised why it wasn't found in the test Hope BIGNEWY will understand and fix it soon I understand the issue, but can not reproduce it 4 hours ago, Crowman said: Hi Bignewy Removed Tacview (was only mod installed), carried out slow repair as requested and retested, fault still apparent, so please find attached logs immediatly post testing, hope they help. dcs.log 56.4 kB · 1 download debrief.log 1.02 kB · 0 downloads thanks, I am not seeing anything obvious, I will ask another team member to check 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huchanronaa Posted April 1, 2022 Author Share Posted April 1, 2022 4 hours ago, BIGNEWY said: I understand the issue, but can not reproduce it thanks, I am not seeing anything obvious, I will ask another team member to check It's easy enough to reproduce this error, do as I say: For an ah-64d that is controlled by AI, press the alt+j key to gain control, and then from the inside or outside view of the ah-64d cockpit, you can find that the upper rotor of the ah-64d has disappeared!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 1, 2022 ED Team Share Posted April 1, 2022 4 hours ago, huchanronaa said: It's easy enough to reproduce this error, do as I say: For an ah-64d that is controlled by AI, press the alt+j key to gain control, and then from the inside or outside view of the ah-64d cockpit, you can find that the upper rotor of the ah-64d has disappeared!! As I have already mentioned it is working correctly for me, I can not report this issue if I can not reproduce it. I have asked others to check also Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huchanronaa Posted April 2, 2022 Author Share Posted April 2, 2022 23 hours ago, BIGNEWY said: As I have already mentioned it is working correctly for me, I can not report this issue if I can not reproduce it. I have asked others to check also Confirm that the above error will occur on both computers with gtx 1060 6g and rtx 2060 6g graphics cards installed respectively Maybe BIGNEWY is using rtx 3060 or rtx 3070 graphics card so everything is fine, but that doesn't mean it's ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowman Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Hi All. I thought with the issues that are affecting some of us, and Game mode being mentioned as causing issues, I thought "I wonder what game mode causes" so I activated Game mode on both settings that are available and retried the AH-64 module to see what happened, It was hysterical to see over Mach 1 in horizontal flight and over 200,000 ft in altitude, also of interest and more relevant to this post was the fact that at one point during my messing about, I had the engines and rotors running so I thought lets try changing to/from AI to see what happens and lo and behold the blades and hub remained. I will do some more checking and let you know, Just thought I would mention this to try and help nail the issue. Happy bug hunting. and yes I will switch game mode off again when I've finished messing about. Catch you all later. Gigidy. Chilliblast, ASUS P8-Z77-V Pro, I7 3770K@3-5GHz, 16GB Corsair PC-3 12800 DDR3 @1600MHz, MSi GTX 1080 8GB, Creative SBZ, Logitech LT Z906 5.1, ASUS 24"Monitor 1080 60Hz,120GB SSD, 1TB SSD, 2TB HDD, 4TB HDD, Corsair CX 750W PSu, Win 10 Home Prem 64bit, TM Warthog, TM T Flight Pedals. Track IR, Occulus Rift S, Black Shark SA, DCS A-10C SA, All DCS Current Aircraft Modules, DCS 2.5 Stable and Beta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowman Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Hi All. Sorry about the previous post regarding the blades and hub in game mode, they are still as mentioned at the start of the post, Game Mode doesn't seem to affect the main rotor disappearing issue, sorry to get your hopes up, I will continue checking and keep you informed if I find anything different. Chilliblast, ASUS P8-Z77-V Pro, I7 3770K@3-5GHz, 16GB Corsair PC-3 12800 DDR3 @1600MHz, MSi GTX 1080 8GB, Creative SBZ, Logitech LT Z906 5.1, ASUS 24"Monitor 1080 60Hz,120GB SSD, 1TB SSD, 2TB HDD, 4TB HDD, Corsair CX 750W PSu, Win 10 Home Prem 64bit, TM Warthog, TM T Flight Pedals. Track IR, Occulus Rift S, Black Shark SA, DCS A-10C SA, All DCS Current Aircraft Modules, DCS 2.5 Stable and Beta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 4, 2022 ED Team Share Posted April 4, 2022 another team member has reproduced and reported thanks 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowman Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 Hi Bignewy. Good to hear that someone on the team has managed to reproduce the issue, thanks for letting us know. Happy Bug Hunting. 1 Chilliblast, ASUS P8-Z77-V Pro, I7 3770K@3-5GHz, 16GB Corsair PC-3 12800 DDR3 @1600MHz, MSi GTX 1080 8GB, Creative SBZ, Logitech LT Z906 5.1, ASUS 24"Monitor 1080 60Hz,120GB SSD, 1TB SSD, 2TB HDD, 4TB HDD, Corsair CX 750W PSu, Win 10 Home Prem 64bit, TM Warthog, TM T Flight Pedals. Track IR, Occulus Rift S, Black Shark SA, DCS A-10C SA, All DCS Current Aircraft Modules, DCS 2.5 Stable and Beta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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