markturner1960 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Hi, I am about to commit to buying a Brunner FFB joystick for use with the Apace as i am enjoying flying it and other heli's so much. Can any other FFB users tell me if this is a recommended investment? Obviously its a big spend, but if it is a transformative experience, then I am happy to drop the money. Opinions please, thank you System specs: PC1 :Scan 3XS Ryzen 5900X, 64GB Corsair veng DDR4 3600, EVGA GTX 3090 Win 10, Quest Pro, Samsung Odyssey G9 Neo monitor. Tir5. PC2 ( Helo) Scan 3XS Intel 9900 K, 32 GB Ram, 2080Ti, 50 inch Phillips monitor F/A-18C: Rhino FFB base TianHang F16 grip, Winwing MP 1, F-18 throttle, TO & Combat panels, MFG crosswind & DFB Aces seat Viper: WinWing MFSSB base with F-16 grip, Winwing F-16 throttle, plus Vipergear ICP. MFG crosswind rudders. Helo ( Apache) set up: Virpil collective with AH64D grip, Cyclic : Virpil CM3 base & TM F18 grip, MFG crosswind rudders, Total controls AH64 MFD's, TEDAC Unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) I only have a trusty old MSFFB2 joystick, but I can tell you right now that regardless of the module you use and ESPECIALLY with helicopters: Force Feedback is a game changer. I would compare it to flying with or without VR. That's how much of an improvement it provides. Edited March 31, 2022 by Lurker Specs: Win10, i5-13600KF, 32GB DDR4 RAM 3200XMP, 1 TB M2 NVMe SSD, KFA2 RTX3090, VR G2 Headset, Warthog Throttle+Saitek Pedals+MSFFB2 Joystick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katmandu Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 FFB is definitely the best way to fly (I'm also a MSFFB2 user), not just helis, but any analogue non-fly-by-wire planes (P-51, F-14, MiG-29, gliders in the Condor2 sim are sublime etc etc). However, I would advise to do some research before buying Brunner. From little I know about it, it has no native support for DCS and requires some 3rd party workarounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markturner1960 Posted April 1, 2022 Author Share Posted April 1, 2022 Thanks, interesting..... System specs: PC1 :Scan 3XS Ryzen 5900X, 64GB Corsair veng DDR4 3600, EVGA GTX 3090 Win 10, Quest Pro, Samsung Odyssey G9 Neo monitor. Tir5. PC2 ( Helo) Scan 3XS Intel 9900 K, 32 GB Ram, 2080Ti, 50 inch Phillips monitor F/A-18C: Rhino FFB base TianHang F16 grip, Winwing MP 1, F-18 throttle, TO & Combat panels, MFG crosswind & DFB Aces seat Viper: WinWing MFSSB base with F-16 grip, Winwing F-16 throttle, plus Vipergear ICP. MFG crosswind rudders. Helo ( Apache) set up: Virpil collective with AH64D grip, Cyclic : Virpil CM3 base & TM F18 grip, MFG crosswind rudders, Total controls AH64 MFD's, TEDAC Unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mop- Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 (edited) I have the msffb2, which can be force trimmed ingame, while g940 sadly only works with "simffb".... Nevertheless i love using both... I cant Imagine flying Helos and my p-51 without them... I simply Love it... But i wouldnt pay 1.300 € for a slightly better Feeling... Get an msffb2 or a g940 for around 100€ and a few Weeks of waiting time at eBay... Edited April 2, 2022 by -Mop- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markturner1960 Posted April 3, 2022 Author Share Posted April 3, 2022 Yeah, I guess for £70 it’s worth trying. Obviously you lack the faculty to use an extension and the functionality of a modern stick though…… System specs: PC1 :Scan 3XS Ryzen 5900X, 64GB Corsair veng DDR4 3600, EVGA GTX 3090 Win 10, Quest Pro, Samsung Odyssey G9 Neo monitor. Tir5. PC2 ( Helo) Scan 3XS Intel 9900 K, 32 GB Ram, 2080Ti, 50 inch Phillips monitor F/A-18C: Rhino FFB base TianHang F16 grip, Winwing MP 1, F-18 throttle, TO & Combat panels, MFG crosswind & DFB Aces seat Viper: WinWing MFSSB base with F-16 grip, Winwing F-16 throttle, plus Vipergear ICP. MFG crosswind rudders. Helo ( Apache) set up: Virpil collective with AH64D grip, Cyclic : Virpil CM3 base & TM F18 grip, MFG crosswind rudders, Total controls AH64 MFD's, TEDAC Unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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