Ocean Water appears/renders as solid ground or not at all. ALSO FLIR/TPOD Black boxes in FOV

[Thanatos31]

Since the recent update ( not hotfix) water that renders "closebye" renders as solid ground texture. 




I have: 

Fully repaired

Fully cleaned

Removed any OPENXR Tools 

Removed FXO and Metashaders Folders

--> What shaders / files seem to be broken here? What can I do to remove this issue 

Edited April 2, 2022 by Thanatos31

[Flappie]

Try the "Medium" Water setting in the game graphics options. Does the bug go away?

[Thanatos31]

hey- yeah - low/high/medium - all the same. 


This seems to appear when using the "Simplex" shader or the VR shader mod. 
 

I know what you're going to say - then turn it off. Unfortunately, I have an even worse shader bug, when going vanilla, and only using OPENXR ; it is that when ever I use a TPOD / FLIR source, I have either a black block and no graphics on the Video Screen / MPD or I have a full black layer on my screen when looking at the MFD 

so its kind of choosing something annoying cosmetic - or something game breaking...

[Thanatos31]

@BIGNEWY as per discord

[Flappie]

The half-black screen is a known bug. It's been reported but we don't know what triggers it yet. Can you please reproduce the half-black screen in a short solo track? (click "Save Track" in the debriefing window)

 

[Thanatos31]

rgr- sharing with @bignewy 

Following observations: 

Happens when no shaders installed / vanilla
Onyl thing used is OPENXR 

Happens when looking at Ground; not at Air. 

FLIR objects don't really trigger it

Switching to TV sometimes fixes it

Black Box in FOV changes depending on which MPCD the TPOD is 
 

Edited April 2, 2022 by Thanatos31

[Flappie]

3 minutes ago, Thanatos31 said:

Switching to TV sometimes fixes it

What's the resolution of your TV and that of your PC screen?

[Thanatos31]

Sorry - I meant TV/CCD rather than FLIR on the TPOD 

Edited April 2, 2022 by Thanatos31

[Thanatos31]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1za2_Ql6LahfDQiFpcRbLcAWg6lS51Gqr/view?usp=sharing

@Flappie @BIGNEWY

 

tried to record it. pls check. 

after takeoff I slew the pod and errors start

dcs.log-20220402-091319.zip

Edited April 2, 2022 by Thanatos31

[Thanatos31]

Update:

Setting textures to WATER HIGH: 

 

no texture 

[Thanatos31]

@Flappie

more info regarding black box , but also the Water texture :

 

Cleaned up and slow repaired ; also deleted FXO and metashaders; 

it seems like Simplex shaders and/or  VR mod shader fixes the FLIR / TPOD / Black Box issue . 

 

the Water not rendering is the weirdest thing : 

Freeflights seem to be ok ; as soon as I do a MP or Campaign mission it changes though

I have a replay ( starts at minute 1:30 roughly) 
You can see it all render totally fine . As soon as I press "fly" you can see the shader / water change and then become invisible. 

https://youtu.be/XZ4DcwtrelM

[Flappie]

I've just realized your DCS is heavily modded, which might explain the water texture issue.

 

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Please rename your "Saved Games/DCS.openbeta" folder to "DCS.openbeta_backup", then run DCS. Is the water issue gone?

[Thanatos31]

I thought disabling them via the startmenue UI wouldnt load them ; but if this causes issues I'd need to try again; althoutgh I've cleaned up and slow repaired numerous times ? 
So I guess the only way forward would be a re-install ? 

[aceviper]

A new saved game folder will be created after renaming old one...a mod free vanilla one.

This will rule out something in saved games causing issue.

[Thanatos31]

rgr ; actually did just that yesterday night , but havent been able to test it. 

One thing I have noticed though is that m OPENXR does not like to have the NVG VR mod (by 3Dmigoto) activated .