KretoFrilk Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 i installed dcs latest version OPEN BETA latest update, i installed Apache in my new pc , runs fine on other maps and other aircraft work fine on Syria map. AH-64D crashes to desktop every time at start on Syria map. why this bug? how do i solve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiki Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Try to run DCS repair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_hedlund Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Is it generating a log file? If so please attach it so the moderators can review it I personally had ton of problems with the Syria map. I ended removing all the mod, and the Syria map , updates DCS and then installed the map. www.tomhedlund.com Modules: A-10C, A-10CII. F-16, AV8B, F-5E, F-14, F/A-18C, P-51, BF-109, F-86, FC3, Ka-50, UH-1H, Mig-15, Mig-21, YAK-52, L-39. Maps: NTTR, PG, Normandy. Syria... Others: Super Carrier, WWII Asset Pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagdgeschwader Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 vor 27 Minuten schrieb KretoFrilk: where i found the log file? In Saved Games\ DCS\ Logs. Try to run a slow repair and delete all files in the Temp folder. Hope it helps. "If we don't end war, war will end us." H. G. Wells Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironious Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) I ran Skatezilla's clean and a slow repair. No help. My log files are in the other thread. I have 32GB DDR4 and an 8GB RTX 3070. I thought maybe a memory issue and cranked down the preload. No help. This is from the crash log: # -------------- 20220403-164841 -------------- DCS/2.7.11.22041 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.22581) C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispig.inf_amd64_117a3cc2d5caed67\nvwgf2umx.dll # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at F83272F3 00:00000000 SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.;C:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta;C:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\system32;SRV*C:\websymbols*https://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;', symOptions: 528, UserName: 'sides' OS-Version: 10.0.22581 () 0x100-0x1 0x00000000003972F3 (nvwgf2umx): NVDEV_Thunk + 0xAA103 0x00000000004A4AA5 (nvwgf2umx): NVDEV_Thunk + 0x1B78B5 0x000000000025A849 (nvwgf2umx): NVENCODEAPI_Thunk + 0x120B29 0x00000000002C30F9 (nvwgf2umx): NVENCODEAPI_Thunk + 0x1893D9 0x00000000000C557A (nvwgf2umx): (function-name not available) + 0x0 0x000000000045C0A5 (nvwgf2umx): NVDEV_Thunk + 0x16EEB5 0x000000000045BE58 (nvwgf2umx): NVDEV_Thunk + 0x16EC68 0x000000000059D54A (nvwgf2umx): NVDEV_Thunk + 0x2B035A 0x000000000130A6E8 (nvwgf2umx): OpenAdapter12 + 0x5C2F38 0x0000000000016624 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x14 0x000000000004A958 (ntdll): RtlUserThreadStart + 0x28 Edited April 3, 2022 by Ironious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironious Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 I think it is a memory issue. I created a mission with default clouds and time of day and it runs. The ones that were crashing I had chosen more clouds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KretoFrilk Posted April 3, 2022 Author Share Posted April 3, 2022 Ok trova 1 ora fa, Ironious ha scritto: I think it is a memory issue. I created a mission with default clouds and time of day and it runs. The ones that were crashing I had chosen more clouds. ok found the cause try to put the textures in the settings on LOW , let me know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KretoFrilk Posted April 3, 2022 Author Share Posted April 3, 2022 @Jagdgeschwader So the problem is the textures, if I put LOW everything works, if I put Medium the loading freezes, if I put HIGH the game crashes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagdgeschwader Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 vor einer Stunde schrieb KretoFrilk: @Jagdgeschwader So the problem is the textures, if I put LOW everything works, if I put Medium the loading freezes, if I put HIGH the game crashes Can you attach a log file? Iv'e never encountered such problem on my end, so if nothing helps you solving this, try to reinstall DCS. Hopefully, one of the moderators will see this post so they can help you better. "If we don't end war, war will end us." H. G. Wells Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironious Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Just tried with textures set to low and everything else the same as when it crashes, no crash. Maybe a video card memory issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Nephilim Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Guys Please Post your Log Files and System specs.. the mods will come here and ask the same thing we should all, already know this by now .. ASRock Z590 Phantom Gaming 4/AC / Intel i7 10700K @ 5.1Ghz / Noctua DHS-14 Heatsinkw/Fan / Samsung 970plus m.2 1TB / eVGA FTW3 2080Ti / RipJaws - 64GB RAM @3200 / SoundBlaster Z / Reverb G2 VR / ThrustMaster HOTAS Cougar & MFD's / Buttkicker Gamer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted April 4, 2022 ED Team Share Posted April 4, 2022 Please post your log file, if you have it the crash zip file the game creates when you crash. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krusty974 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Hi KretoFrilk, I have a question. Others are having your same problem. Everyone has by now realized that switching to "low" textures does fix it. Anyway everyone is still wondering what's the root cause of this. Did you manage to understand what exactly is causing this issue? Why having textures set to "high" causes the crashes? Thanks for any insight you might have. Stefano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostycab Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) I've not had this issue, but someone in another thread said adjusting his page file size fixed it. Edited April 4, 2022 by frostycab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KretoFrilk Posted April 4, 2022 Author Share Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) I solved it by setting the C drive paging file to 16,384 ONLY FOR SYSTEM UNIT UNIT C SET LIKE THIS: Custom size: Initial size (MB): 16.384 Maximum file size (MB): 16,384 Press SET and RESTART your PC Edited April 4, 2022 by KretoFrilk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironious Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Maybe time to remortgage and upgrade to 64GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KretoFrilk Posted April 4, 2022 Author Share Posted April 4, 2022 1 ora fa, Ironious ha scritto: Maybe time to remortgage and upgrade to 64GB. No , i have 32 GB but paging file work good with 16GB , have you solved the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironious Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 I don't want to increase my page file size. I'll just run with fewer clouds in Syria until I upgrade my memory. I've read (can't confirm) that if your page file size is too large Windows will use that even when there is free RAM available. I don't want that even though I have a gen 4 NVMe SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealius Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Should pagefile size be set on the OS drive or the drive that DCS is on? I've had the same # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION crashes since the Open Beta update, but they have happened on different maps and modules (including the Apache). I've done a slow repair but haven't flown enough to test reliability. I'll post my Apache crash log (not Syria; Caucasus) just in case. 04APRcrash.log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironious Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 10 hours ago, Nealius said: Should pagefile size be set on the OS drive or the drive that DCS is on? I've had the same # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION crashes since the Open Beta update, but they have happened on different maps and modules (including the Apache). I've done a slow repair but haven't flown enough to test reliability. I'll post my Apache crash log (not Syria; Caucasus) just in case. 04APRcrash.log 100.68 kB · 0 downloads Opinions vary but I think most believe it best for the pagefile to be on the OS partition. With 32GB on different systems I've run without a pagefile for years until recently. Now I'm considering adding another 32GB and killing the pagefile again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealius Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 I've got 32GB RAM plus 32GB set aside on the OS pagefile but that didn't seem to stop the crash. My OS drive is getting very low on space thanks to Windows update bloat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tromac2010 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 I have the exact same issue, just with the Apache and just on the Syria map. Seems to be memory related. I have 32GB RAM in my system. Just posting to advise the others are not alone in this issue. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KretoFrilk Posted April 6, 2022 Author Share Posted April 6, 2022 5 ore fa, tromac2010 ha scritto: I have the exact same issue, just with the Apache and just on the Syria map. Seems to be memory related. I have 32GB RAM in my system. Just posting to advise the others are not alone in this issue. if you try to do instant game on Persian Gulf I think you will have the same problem, to me at first he did it only on syria now also on Persian Gulf. 9 ore fa, Ironious ha scritto: Opinions vary but I think most believe it best for the pagefile to be on the OS partition. With 32GB on different systems I've run without a pagefile for years until recently. Now I'm considering adding another 32GB and killing the pagefile again. Exactly as I have always done, never used the paging file, so every day I get another 32GB of ram so I will have 64GB and I hope to sleep peacefully for everything and for quite a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tromac2010 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 My page file was set to automatic running on a spare SSD. I have changed it to 32GB fixed size and it's working fine again. I can fly on Syria with the Apache. Easy fix, thanks all. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayrayblues Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 On 4/6/2022 at 3:00 AM, tromac2010 said: My page file was set to automatic running on a spare SSD. I have changed it to 32GB fixed size and it's working fine again. I can fly on Syria with the Apache. Easy fix, thanks all. ^THIS^ Whatever your physical memory is, double it with your page file. I have 32Gb DDR 3 with 32 on the OS drive and 32 on my game drive. Very rare to crash, even on Syria. On 4/5/2022 at 6:27 PM, Nealius said: I've got 32GB RAM plus 32GB set aside on the OS pagefile but that didn't seem to stop the crash. My OS drive is getting very low on space thanks to Windows update bloat. If your low on space, you need a bigger drive. On 4/4/2022 at 8:24 AM, Ironious said: I don't want to increase my page file size. I'll just run with fewer clouds in Syria until I upgrade my memory. I've read (can't confirm) that if your page file size is too large Windows will use that even when there is free RAM available. I don't want that even though I have a gen 4 NVMe SSD. If you don't want to use pagefile, then you are doomed. Enjoy the crashes. SLAVA UKRAINI MoBo - ASUS 990FX R2 Sabertooth, CPU - AMD FX 9590 @4.7Gb. No OC RAM - GSkill RipJaws DDR3 32 Gb @2133 MHZ, GPU - EVGA GeForce GTX 1660Ti 6Gb DDR5 OC'd, Core 180MHz, Memory 800MHz Game drive - Samsung 980 M.2 EVO 1Tb SSD, OS Drive - 860 EVO 500Gb SATA SSD, Win10 Pro 22H2 Controls - Thrustmaster T-Flight HOTAS X, Monitor - LG 32" 1920 X 1080, PSU - Prestige ATX-PR800W PSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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