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Hi there. I have the latest open beta installed (just had an update of 4GB tonight), and I get regular hangs, especially in the Tomcat. It's mostly after loading of the situation is done, or after I've landed that the game hangs, and nothing happens anymore, so I have to end it via the task manager. 

My OS is Win11, running the sim on AMD 5600X, 32GB 3200MHz RAM, RTX 3060Ti, Samsung 970 Evo SSD. 

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Thanks for the quick answer. No mods are installed. The whole install, and the machine it's on, are one week old. All drivers are up to date and no overclocking is taking place.. Where do I find the log file?


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10 minutes ago, Mik75 said:

 Where do I find the log file?

Stable DCS release: C:\Users\yourname\Saved Games\DCS\Logs\DCS.log

Openbeta DCS release: C:\Users\yourname\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\Logs\DCS.log

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20 hours ago, Mik75 said:

It's mostly after loading of the situation is done, or after I've landed that the game hangs, and nothing happens anymore, so I have to end it via the task manager. 

 

On the log you provide it seems to hang prior to showing the DCS Menu.

 

Can you check on your antivirus logs if it is quarentining any DCS file?  .. I wonder because of this error that shows up on the log:

"INFO    UIBASERENDERER: Cannot load font [C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\dxgui\skins\fonts\]!"

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vor 12 Minuten schrieb Mik75:

No, not yet. It's a fresh install without any mods. Should I try it nonetheless?

I think you should, because the installation can fail to install a file or two (for many reasons) that may be very important for the stable operation of DCS.

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28 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said:

 

On the log you provide it seems to hang prior to showing the DCS Menu.

 

Can you check on your antivirus logs if it is quarentining any DCS file?  .. I wonder because of this error that shows up on the log:

"INFO    UIBASERENDERER: Cannot load font [C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\dxgui\skins\fonts\]!"

Hmm. That's interesting. Yesterday, it froze after landing, when I switched to the RIO seat in the Tomcat. 

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1 hour ago, Jagdgeschwader said:

So, has the problem been solved? 🙂

Well, it seems so. I just had a 2 1/2 hrs session, with no freezes of any kind, although the log file (which I´ve attached) still shows some errors! The repair did definiteyl help! Thx a lot for your input!

dcs.log


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vor einer Stunde schrieb Mik75:

Well, it seems so. I just had a 2 1/2 hrs session, with no freezes of any kind, although the log file (which I´ve attached) still shows some errors! The repair did definiteyl help! Thx a lot for your input!

dcs.log 138 kB · 2 Downloads

 

You're welcome. 🙂
Just wanted to add, I have encountered myself some lags and even crashes after updates, so now I'm diong a slow repair after every update and it helps me everytime.

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2 hours ago, Jagdgeschwader said:

You're welcome. 🙂
Just wanted to add, I have encountered myself some lags and even crashes after updates, so now I'm diong a slow repair after every update and it helps me everytime.

Yeah, I see! It's a beta, at the end of the day. And running the repair tool from time to time isn't a huge deal... 😉

Have you seen the errors in my log? There are some "DX11Backend" errors in there. Is this something to worry about?

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Yeah, I see! It's a beta, at the end of the day. And running the repair tool from time to time isn't a huge deal... 😉

Have you seen the errors in my log? There are some "DX11Backend" errors in there. Is this something to worry about?

I don't know much about LOG files myself, so I can't tell what it means. :dunno:

 @Rudel_chw  Maybe you can translate it? You seem to know a lot about LOG files.


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28 minutes ago, Jagdgeschwader said:

You seem to know a lot about LOG files.

Not really, but I’m used to save the last dcs.log prior to trying a new user mod or livery, so that I can compare the log after, it helps to detect errors on the new elements that I’m adding to my DCS.
 

I wish some developers took more care to solve the warnings and errors that some official modules have, like these for heatblur: 

2022-04-07 19:54:40.817 INFO    Scripting: OBSOLETE mount_vfs_sound_path() used in ./CoreMods/aircraft/AJS37/entry.lua
2022-04-07 19:54:41.108 INFO    Scripting: OBSOLETE mount_vfs_sound_path() used in ./Mods/aircraft/F14/entry.lua


or these for ED components:

  

2022-04-07 19:55:13.039 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Destruction shape not found AVIASHTAB_CRASH
2022-04-07 19:55:13.040 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Destruction shape not found GAZ-66_P_1
2022-04-07 19:55:13.040 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Destruction shape not found KAMAZ-FIRE_P_1
2022-04-07 19:55:13.045 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Object DURANDAL with id=62 already declared in table BombTable
2022-04-07 19:55:13.045 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Object AV8BNA_AERO1D_EMPTY with id=299 already declared in table ContainerTable
2022-04-07 19:55:13.045 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Object M2KC_02_RPL541_EMPTY with id=603 already declared in table ContainerTable
2022-04-07 19:55:13.045 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Object M2KC_08_RPL541_EMPTY with id=604 already declared in table ContainerTable
2022-04-07 19:55:13.045 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Object M2KC_RPL_522_EMPTY with id=605 already declared in table ContainerTable
2022-04-07 19:55:13.045 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Object AIM-9 with id=22 already declared in table MissileTable
2022-04-07 19:55:13.045 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Object AIM-9P with id=135 already declared in table MissileTable
2022-04-07 19:55:13.045 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Object AIM-9X with id=136 already declared in table MissileTable
2022-04-07 19:55:13.045 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Object AIM_7 with id=21 already declared in table MissileTable
2022-04-07 19:55:13.045 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Object HB_F14_EXT_PHX_ALU with id=320 already declared in table MissileTable
2022-04-07 19:55:13.045 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Object X-59M with id=54 already declared in table MissileTable
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vor einer Stunde schrieb Rudel_chw:

Not really, but I’m used to save the last dcs.log prior to trying a new user mod or livery, so that I can compare the log after, it helps to detect errors on the new elements that I’m adding to my DCS.
 

I wish some developers took more care to solve the warnings and errors that some official modules have, like these for heatblur: 

2022-04-07 19:54:40.817 INFO    Scripting: OBSOLETE mount_vfs_sound_path() used in ./CoreMods/aircraft/AJS37/entry.lua
2022-04-07 19:54:41.108 INFO    Scripting: OBSOLETE mount_vfs_sound_path() used in ./Mods/aircraft/F14/entry.lua


or these for ED components:

  

2022-04-07 19:55:13.039 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Destruction shape not found AVIASHTAB_CRASH
2022-04-07 19:55:13.040 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Destruction shape not found GAZ-66_P_1
2022-04-07 19:55:13.040 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Destruction shape not found KAMAZ-FIRE_P_1
2022-04-07 19:55:13.045 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Object DURANDAL with id=62 already declared in table BombTable
2022-04-07 19:55:13.045 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Object AV8BNA_AERO1D_EMPTY with id=299 already declared in table ContainerTable
2022-04-07 19:55:13.045 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Object M2KC_02_RPL541_EMPTY with id=603 already declared in table ContainerTable
2022-04-07 19:55:13.045 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Object M2KC_08_RPL541_EMPTY with id=604 already declared in table ContainerTable
2022-04-07 19:55:13.045 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Object M2KC_RPL_522_EMPTY with id=605 already declared in table ContainerTable
2022-04-07 19:55:13.045 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Object AIM-9 with id=22 already declared in table MissileTable
2022-04-07 19:55:13.045 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Object AIM-9P with id=135 already declared in table MissileTable
2022-04-07 19:55:13.045 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Object AIM-9X with id=136 already declared in table MissileTable
2022-04-07 19:55:13.045 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Object AIM_7 with id=21 already declared in table MissileTable
2022-04-07 19:55:13.045 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Object HB_F14_EXT_PHX_ALU with id=320 already declared in table MissileTable
2022-04-07 19:55:13.045 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Object X-59M with id=54 already declared in table MissileTable

I don't understand much of it, but thanks anyway). 
Do they all cause the sim to crash?

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2 hours ago, Rudel_chw said:

Not really, but I’m used to save the last dcs.log prior to trying a new user mod or livery, so that I can compare the log after, it helps to detect errors on the new elements that I’m adding to my DCS.
 

I wish some developers took more care to solve the warnings and errors that some official modules have, like these for heatblur: 

2022-04-07 19:54:40.817 INFO    Scripting: OBSOLETE mount_vfs_sound_path() used in ./CoreMods/aircraft/AJS37/entry.lua
2022-04-07 19:54:41.108 INFO    Scripting: OBSOLETE mount_vfs_sound_path() used in ./Mods/aircraft/F14/entry.lua


or these for ED components:

  

2022-04-07 19:55:13.039 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Destruction shape not found AVIASHTAB_CRASH
2022-04-07 19:55:13.040 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Destruction shape not found GAZ-66_P_1
2022-04-07 19:55:13.040 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Destruction shape not found KAMAZ-FIRE_P_1
2022-04-07 19:55:13.045 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Object DURANDAL with id=62 already declared in table BombTable
2022-04-07 19:55:13.045 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Object AV8BNA_AERO1D_EMPTY with id=299 already declared in table ContainerTable
2022-04-07 19:55:13.045 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Object M2KC_02_RPL541_EMPTY with id=603 already declared in table ContainerTable
2022-04-07 19:55:13.045 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Object M2KC_08_RPL541_EMPTY with id=604 already declared in table ContainerTable
2022-04-07 19:55:13.045 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Object M2KC_RPL_522_EMPTY with id=605 already declared in table ContainerTable
2022-04-07 19:55:13.045 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Object AIM-9 with id=22 already declared in table MissileTable
2022-04-07 19:55:13.045 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Object AIM-9P with id=135 already declared in table MissileTable
2022-04-07 19:55:13.045 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Object AIM-9X with id=136 already declared in table MissileTable
2022-04-07 19:55:13.045 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Object AIM_7 with id=21 already declared in table MissileTable
2022-04-07 19:55:13.045 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Object HB_F14_EXT_PHX_ALU with id=320 already declared in table MissileTable
2022-04-07 19:55:13.045 ERROR   EDOBJECTS: Object X-59M with id=54 already declared in table MissileTable

Thanks a lot! And same question here as Jagdgeschwader: Are these critical errors that may potentially crash and/or freeze the sim? And what about these DX11Backend errors (concerning missing cloud shadows, etc.)?


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3 hours ago, Jagdgeschwader said:

Do they all cause the sim to crash?

No, they are there even in clean stable installations that work fine. That's why it's confusing and I'm with Rudel - they should clean up this mess.

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1 hour ago, draconus said:

No, they are there even in clean stable installations that work fine. That's why it's confusing and I'm with Rudel - they should clean up this mess.

Ok, that's good to know! Thanks a lot for confirmation!

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So, I had another hang, which I could only escape via ending the game through the task manager. I flew a longer training session, without any issues, and again, after landing, when I switched to the RIO seat, the sim froze. Here´s the log file, it contains quite a few errors, and at the end, there are some errors concerning sounds...

dcs.log


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14 minutes ago, Mik75 said:

Here´s the log file, it contains quite a few errors, and at the end, there are some errors concerning sounds...

 

Hi,

It's really strange ... I have the Tomcat too, but there is no file named "radioclickbefore.wav" anywhere within the DCS program folder  ... are you using an external utility like VAICOM or something like it?

Can you search your disk and see if this file actually exists?

I'd also check the antivirus logs, to be sure that it is not interfereing with your DCS.

 

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26 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said:
 
Hi,
It's really strange ... I have the Tomcat too, but there is no file named "radioclickbefore.wav" anywhere within the DCS program folder  ... are you using an external utility like VAICOM or something like it?
Can you search your disk and see if this file actually exists?
I'd also check the antivirus logs, to be sure that it is not interfereing with your DCS.

VAICOM is not an application per say. It's a plugin for VoiceAttack that communicates with DCS through the export.lua like DCS-Bios, moving map, Helios etc.

EDIT: AAARGH!!! Text lost AGAIN!! Was gonna say I was gonna look for that wav file in case of VAICOM, but it shouldn't be.

EDIT2: I have no such file. VAICOM do install a couple of scripts though. But only if you have the AIRIO/Jester extension.


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Your game seems to be given a small 4GB of pagefile. You might want to increase that manually. I don't usually advise this as long as I don't see the "E_OUTOFMEMORY" error in logs, but since there is apparently no other symptom in your log, that's worth a shot.

Before donig this, ensure you have enough free space in your pagefile drive (whch should be your fastest drive by default). Around 50 GB of free space will do.

Set your pagefile this way:

  • min size: 32768 (32 GB)
  • max size: 32768 (32 GB)

https://mcci.com/support/guides/how-to-change-the-windows-pagefile-size/


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