Fuggzy Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 This is just the absolute coolest solo play dynamic I've experienced in online flight sims. The George AI is fantastic, sure there's a few bugs with it here in early release, but I am overjoyed with what it does now. I love cold starting her, super easy. Boresight the guys, and get flying. On the way I hot dog it through breaks in the trees, flying as low as necessary to give the natives the sh*ts. Pull up on BP, slowwwwwww down, get almost settled, then like magic pop a 2, I'm CPG, George hovers. I proceed to rain Hell fire and destruction, peeking over cover with H/B. Once the targets are sufficiently smoking, pop a 1 and I'm hotdoggin' back NOE. I love the F-16 but holy smokes this Apache is just adorable, and I need an online friend. LFG apache clan 6 System: Core i9 10980XE @ 4.00GHz -- MB: X299 UD4 Pro -- 32GB RAM -- RTX4070ti -- 1TB Intel NVMe x2 -- Win10 pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pii Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 8 hours ago, Fuggzy said: This is just the absolute coolest solo play dynamic I've experienced in online flight sims. The George AI is fantastic, sure there's a few bugs with it here in early release, but I am overjoyed with what it does now. I love cold starting her, super easy. Boresight the guys, and get flying. On the way I hot dog it through breaks in the trees, flying as low as necessary to give the natives the sh*ts. Pull up on BP, slowwwwwww down, get almost settled, then like magic pop a 2, I'm CPG, George hovers. I proceed to rain Hell fire and destruction, peeking over cover with H/B. Once the targets are sufficiently smoking, pop a 1 and I'm hotdoggin' back NOE. I love the F-16 but holy smokes this Apache is just adorable, and I need an online friend. LFG apache clan I'm also really digging it. I am just learning take offs and landing and even those are a blast and challenging , to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuggzy Posted April 20, 2022 Author Share Posted April 20, 2022 !0 days with Apache, an Update: I love the way the chopper flies, it seems very realistic with different loading weights, altitude density, etc. I'm crashing less now as my list of "don't do that again" grows. George, as much as I praised him initially, is a psychopath that likes killing our own tanks as CPG and is a terrible pilot. "Like, I know I simultaneously told you to stop, climb, and change heading -- but goddamit George you knew we had 16 hellfires, 80% gas, and it's 116 degrees here in Someblahmadad today. We didn't need to die like this." He's new, nervous, doesn't say much, sucks at his job, and makes guys feel awkward in the barracks, but he's trainable and I'm looking forward to more and better from him. In SP I'm deadly now. I fly fast and aggressive and low AF ingress as pilot, and when I figure out where to peep n shoot from, I get her stabilized and switch to CPG. H+B into firing position... (Microsoft Xbox controller is THE TITS for CPG btw) Slide a little left, George Slide a little more left, George. More. More. More... quit coming back so much you retard. Ok, there I can see em. Hold here, George. George, stop drifting, you're drifting ever so slowly right. Slide one more time left long time.... ok laser on, SHOOT 5 4 3 2 1 SHOOT 5 4 3 2 1 SHOOT 5 4 3 2 1 Dead thing, dead thing, dead thing. Yep, they designed this weapon for Army users lol. OK Egress. I stop to consider where all my controls are set before hitting 1, because I can't even count the number of times that THIS transition is when I spiral into the mountainside like a drunk cougar because my collective was flat or something was unprepared. Fly back to base as dangerously low and fast as possible, sometimes do a barrel roll accidentally and scream like a little girl, and always try to hotdog the landing. I'm up to about 60% success on the combined phase. MP? I did it exactly once so far with some super cool dudes on Rotorheads server, and THIS is what I want to do. Flying human crew in Apache is just the effin most greatest thing I've done in my decades of flight simming. It is where I'm headed after I'm sick of all the SP missions. Why not immediately? I like flying most, and need to practice enough to never crash from idiocy... it is such a bummer for anyone to be CPG and your pilot crashes by pure error. TL;DR I want to get gud at Apache and play Army with guys online soon. So so fun 4 System: Core i9 10980XE @ 4.00GHz -- MB: X299 UD4 Pro -- 32GB RAM -- RTX4070ti -- 1TB Intel NVMe x2 -- Win10 pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscar19681 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Same here. Totally hooked. It completely pales the experience I had as a kid with Janes Longbow. The Apache has allways been me all time favorite. 3 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibal Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 i am hooked as well.. we are lucky to have this! 1 find me on steam! username: Hannibal_A101A http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197969447179 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkie Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Flying from the back and using VoiceAttack to give commands to George as CP/G I have a great time, so much fun to have him fire off a couple of Hellfires and then as we get closer let him use some rockets as I WAS up the gun for my own fun all in one pass and keeping my hands on the controls the whole time. I've waited a long time to finally have a true attack helicopter and now we have the Apache and Hind, good times. 2 Sager Laptop, i7-6700k 4.00GHz, 16GB RAM, GTX 980M, 1920x1080, TIR 5, Windows 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted April 20, 2022 ED Team Share Posted April 20, 2022 Glad you guys are enjoying it, she will only get better! 3 1 Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 I still have quite a lot to learn but am slowly getting there. Finally got started on the guns training mission ( my last training mission to do) and was able to do the CP/G thing and interact with George AI for the first time. Even successfully taking out some insurgent trucks with my guns which felt great. I hope to see more training missions in the future. As I fly in VR I find this the best way for me to learn. Not quite yet ready to place the order for a Virpil Collective but that day may eventually come. I still have a lot to learn but feeling better about it as each day comes along. Being a long ago big fan of Janes Longbow both I and II I am determined to make this one work for me. And loving it as I go. 1 Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelina1 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 I'm hooked as well... each evening after work, I manage to sneak in a cold start and a mission. love stalking around at tree line level, and picking off the baddies. On Saturday afternoons, I give this bird a real nice workout too... DCS really put together a great mod here. (With OpenXR, etc, this really brings out the DCS VR capabilities. But there's another thread for that). Nice post OP, totally agree! -Jav 1 MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuggzy Posted April 21, 2022 Author Share Posted April 21, 2022 4 hours ago, dburne said: I still have quite a lot to learn but am slowly getting there. Finally got started on the guns training mission ( my last training mission to do) and was able to do the CP/G thing and interact with George AI for the first time. Even successfully taking out some insurgent trucks with my guns which felt great. I hope to see more training missions in the future. As I fly in VR I find this the best way for me to learn. Not quite yet ready to place the order for a Virpil Collective but that day may eventually come. I still have a lot to learn but feeling better about it as each day comes along. Being a long ago big fan of Janes Longbow both I and II I am determined to make this one work for me. And loving it as I go. More training missions will be great, but for now I watched the AH-64 series on YouTube from Casmo and Wags with my phone and followed along with every step in the sim as if it's a tutorial. Works just as well except I had to train in 2D -- like you mentioned it doesn't work out well in VR Monkie mentioned VoiceAttack. I know what I'm setting up next... 1 System: Core i9 10980XE @ 4.00GHz -- MB: X299 UD4 Pro -- 32GB RAM -- RTX4070ti -- 1TB Intel NVMe x2 -- Win10 pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrEaSeLiTeNiN Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Enjoying the Apache too. What 'spoils' it a little for me though is the possibility (quite often) of doing a disconcerting/unexpected snap roll (feels like capsizing in a boat) whenever you 'make a mistake' in your flying to cause that. Is this how it is in the real helo or just WIP? I know I need to go easy on the roll so I have even used a 30 curve and 80 Y saturation on my standard on-tabletop warthog hotas. It's better but it occasionally happens. Panic use of the force trim/reset probably contributes to it too. I guess I have to keep to small movements on the cyclic/collective. IRL, do attack helos perform rolls at times for specific reasons? Thanks AMD Ryzen 5 5600X | Gigabyte RTX 3070 Gaming OC 8GB | 32GB Adata Spectrix D50 3600 Mhz (16x2) | Asus B550 TUF Plus Gaming | 2TB Aorus Gen4 HOTAS Warthog | TrackIR 5 | My Files | Windows 10 Home x64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Raptor9 Posted April 26, 2022 ED Team Share Posted April 26, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, GrEaSeLiTeNiN said: What 'spoils' it a little for me though is the possibility (quite often) of doing a disconcerting/unexpected snap roll (feels like capsizing in a boat) whenever you 'make a mistake' in your flying to cause that. Is this how it is in the real helo or just WIP? No, it's not how it is in the real helo. But Early Access is a marathon, not a sprint. I'm personally expecting a lot more tuning to the FMC/SCAS. The AH-64 is a paradox of sorts. In the right hands, the handling can range anywhere between rock stable to aggressively agile, but that is based on a complicated logic set within the Flight Management Computer that interacts with the crew member controls to produce a very intuitive control response. It's not an easy task by any measure, and I don't envy the dev team at all. Edited April 26, 2022 by Raptor9 3 2 Afterburners are for wussies...hang around the battlefield and dodge tracers like a man. DCS Rotor-Head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuggzy Posted April 27, 2022 Author Share Posted April 27, 2022 For several long sessions in a row, I did nothing but start hot, IHAADS off, and hover around. Sliding sideways around hangars practicing tank-peeping, and basically giving myself little mini-assignments of "go there quickly, hover steady" -- "now do it better than that". I did about a hundred transitions to forward flight and back to hover. A magic moment came when I realized it's as if I'm dancing the chopper, putting her anywhere I want to with much less effort, and smoother. I'm a fixed-wing snob at heart that believes choppers are an affront to God and nature, but flying the Apache is becoming really fun. I am having a ball with this, thank you ED for the great module. System: Core i9 10980XE @ 4.00GHz -- MB: X299 UD4 Pro -- 32GB RAM -- RTX4070ti -- 1TB Intel NVMe x2 -- Win10 pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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