done Special Option for Trigger-Guard

[Exorcet]

On 4/18/2022 at 11:12 AM, Dagobert666 said:

 

I understand that Apache has something like that and that you also want to simulate it. But I bet more than 90% of all DCS players don't have a trigger guard on their HOTAS. So to simulate that is a "Schildbürgerstreich" as we like to say in Germany. A Action that foolishly fails in its proper or original purpose...

MY SUGGESTION: An option in the "SPECIAL" menu where you can set the trigger guard to be open automatically when you start the simulation (cold as well as hot)

An interesting term, maybe one I should try to use from now on.

I don't even own the Apache, but I agree with this. DCS should absolutely 100% have the trigger guard as a bindable key, however it's also one of those simulation elements that needs to be looked at from a practical perspective. In the real helicopter, or with a proper HOTAS it's a non issue, but if you happen to have controls that don't match the real thing, it can become a hindrance very quick. A special option for this command and other similar commands across other modules makes a lot of sense.

[Hoirtel]

34 minutes ago, shagrat said:

There are 3 different keybinds. "Open/Close" switches between open and close and separate "Open" and "Close" keybinds, so if you use the "Open" only it will not close again.

Ah nice didn't see that. I'll give that a go. Should work well. 

[Foka]

If I understand correctly the trigger guard is only spring loaded piece of metal that physically blocks trigger, there is no electronic switch in it, no indication if it's up or down.
If so, IMO the key binding is redundant. If someone will produce AH-64D stick, he may place the guard on it. If not, there is no reason theres should be any "electronic trace" of it, like key bind.

[shagrat]

vor 12 Stunden schrieb Foka:

If I understand correctly the trigger guard is only spring loaded piece of metal that physically blocks trigger, there is no electronic switch in it, no indication if it's up or down.
If so, IMO the key binding is redundant. If someone will produce AH-64D stick, he may place the guard on it. If not, there is no reason theres should be any "electronic trace" of it, like key bind.

Exactly. If someone would make a specific AH-64D cyclic grip, he would need to add a sensor/button to recognize the "open" and "close" position for the physical guard, to send the "open" and "close" commands to DCS.

Even if you bind a button on your HOTAS for the open/close toggle you need to remember, if it is open or close, as there is no visual indication and we can't "feel" the guard. 

So the only thing we can bind is "open" to ensure it is open anyway.  Basically, you open the trigger guard once and then never touch it, until you RTB, in DCS.

[Vakarian]

From the changelog today:

* Added trigger guard as option. See in AH-64D Special Tab in Options.
 

So, this is sorted now 

[Razor18]

Thank God at last. Another physical  joystick button spared for more useful purposes...

[Swift.]

Does anyone know if this extends to all the covered HOCAS functions? Chop, Jettison, BUCS trigger?

[Razor18]

I don't think so... Trigger guard is trigger guard I guess...

[Dagobert666]

"Added trigger guard as option and not mandatory!"

 

 

Thank You ED! you are really awesome!

 

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[Swift.]

2 hours ago, Razor18 said:

I don't think so... Trigger guard is trigger guard I guess...

Shame, I guess we've got to start nagging again then lol

[javelina1]

7 hours ago, Dagobert666 said:

"Added trigger guard as option and not mandatory!"

 

 

Thank You ED! you are really awesome!

 

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indeed, a great wish implemented!  thanks ED!