zero2005 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 So, I noticed that in the cockpit of the Hind, I'm getting a weird frame limitation, usually around 60fps, I am in VR (Reverb G1 @ 2800x2800 using the OpenXR mod, 12700kf @ 5.3ghz and Powercolor 6900xt @ 2700mhz) Most other modules, getting a pretty solid 90 fps offline. The I hop in the cockpit of the hind and it suddenly drops to 60 frames. I go external and its back to 90 frames. I've tried the optimized English cockpits from Sundowner, but to no avail. I've tried several other aircraft and haven't run into any issues: F-14, Mig-21, F-5, Huey, and Hip all run great. I suspect this is likely due to it not being optimized? Unless someone has any other suggestions. I tried clearing out FXO/Metashaders already (I do this often anyways). But I also don't see anything listed in the bug report? System: Intel 14700k on MSi z690 DDR4 pro, Arctic Liquid Frozer II 360mm AIO, 64gb ddr4-3600mhz CL16, Gigabyte 4090 Winwing Orion2 F-15EX/F-16EX combo, VKB T-Rudder Mk.IV, TM Warthog (Shelved) 2x 256gb Vertex 4 SSD's, 2x 1tb Sabrent NVMe PCIe 4.0 SSD's, 1x 4.0tb Silicon Power NVMe, 1x 4tb Seagate HDD VR: Quest 3 (Current), HP Reverb G1 (Shelved) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjonessnp175 Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 Even with my new rig with Apache and Hind I have to set textures to medium…. Helps me in VR I7 4770k @ 4.6, sli 980 evga oc edition, ssdx2, Sony 55 inch edid hack nvidia 3dvision. Volair sim pit, DK2 Oculus Rift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Песочек Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 My opinion is that apache over detailed. I'd be happy that it have Ka-50 detailed level. On the one side, high detail level allow you to get more please from module, but the other side what pleasure you can get from low frame rate and persist freeze? 4 GTX 1070, i5-8600 3.10GHz, 32GB RAM, Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 500GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjonessnp175 Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 12 minutes ago, Песочек said: My opinion is that apache over detailed. I'd be happy that it have Ka-50 detailed level. On the one side, high detail level allow you to get more please from module, but the other side what pleasure you can get from low frame rate and persist freeze? Agree, and I worry about BS3, looks gorgeous but at what cost to fps… 1 I7 4770k @ 4.6, sli 980 evga oc edition, ssdx2, Sony 55 inch edid hack nvidia 3dvision. Volair sim pit, DK2 Oculus Rift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Песочек Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 10 часов назад, rcjonessnp175 сказал: Agree, and I worry about BS3, looks gorgeous but at what cost to fps… The devs tell that BS3 will a new standard of modeling in DCS. For this reason, i guess this will have less fps that even apache. And i will not buy it. 1 GTX 1070, i5-8600 3.10GHz, 32GB RAM, Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 500GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucShep Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 (edited) 20 hours ago, Песочек said: My opinion is that apache over detailed. I'd be happy that it have Ka-50 detailed level. On the one side, high detail level allow you to get more please from module, but the other side what pleasure you can get from low frame rate and persist freeze? 20 hours ago, rcjonessnp175 said: Agree, and I worry about BS3, looks gorgeous but at what cost to fps… 10 hours ago, Песочек said: The devs tell that BS3 will a new standard of modeling in DCS. For this reason, i guess this will have less fps that even apache. And i will not buy it. +1 I think you have to draw the line somewhere and, at some point, enough is enough. More eye-candy quickly becomes overkill, and a detriment to the whole experience (too high requirements and investment for DCS needed performance, it becomes hard to justify). I'm also perfectly fine with BS2 levels of detail, it's the whole rest of content that needs more attention and development, especially performance optimizations. Edited May 2, 2022 by LucShep 6 CGTC Caucasus retexture mod | A-10A cockpit retexture mod | Shadows reduced impact mod | DCS 2.5.6 (the best version for performance, VR or 2D) = aka Luke Marqs; call sign "Ducko" = Spoiler Win10 Pro x64 | Intel i7 12700K (@5.1/5.0p + 3.9e) | 64GB DDR4 @3466 CL16 (Crucial Ballistix) | RTX 3090 24GB EVGA FTW3 Ultra | 2TB NVMe (MP600 Pro XT) + 500GB SSD (WD Blue) + 3TB HDD (Toshiba P300) + 1TB HDD (WD Blue) | Corsair RMX 850W | Asus Z690 TUF+ D4 | TR PA120SE | Fractal Meshify C | UAD Volt1 + Sennheiser HD-599SE | 7x USB 3.0 Hub | 50'' 4K Philips 7608/12 UHD TV (+Head Tracking) | HP Reverb G1 Pro (VR) | TM Warthog + Logitech X56 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAPman Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 On 5/2/2022 at 2:09 AM, rcjonessnp175 said: Even with my new rig with Apache and Hind I have to set textures to medium…. Helps me in VR I see. My PC environment is 5 or 6 years old specs, but in Novorossiysk free flight, the High preset in the graphics options drops to 10 fps in urban areas. So I moved all the material textures with suffixes "_nm" and "_RoughMet" in the folder "DCS World\Mods\aircraft\Mi-24P\Cockpit\Textures\" to another location and it improved to 19fps. The display is reasonably broken. Reducing the image size of material textures to about 512 may help. MIP level should also be considered. Unconfirmed information, but it seems that the maximum texture size is 2048 for the High preset and 1024 for the Medium preset. The DDS file was viewable in XnView. Does anyone have the skills to create lightweight textures? 1 OS:Windows 7 Ultimate CPU:Core i7-2700K 4.8GHz Mother Board:Asrock Z77Extreme6 Memory:G.SKILL DDR3-2133 16GB Graphic Card:AMD HD7970 1125/1575MHz Display:Eyefinity / Square x3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoN Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) Waiting for Vulkan stopped buying modules and maps . 2021 Edited November 9, 2022 by KoN 3 1 Gigabyte - X570 UD ~ Ryzen - 5600X @ 4.7 - Pulse - RX-6800 - XPG 32:GB @ 3200 - VKB - Gunfighter 4 - STECs - Throttle - Crosswinds Rudders - Trackir 5 . I'm a dot . Pico Nero 3 link VR . @ 4k Win 11 Pro 64Bit . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAPman Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 In the age of 4K monitors, 4Kx4K textures have become the standard, and with normal maps and PBR textures attached, the memory load will increase and become heavier. If the image is displayed at MIP level 2 without zooming in, then 2Kx2K textures may be sufficient. The BC7 DDS was convenient to edit with paint.net. OS:Windows 7 Ultimate CPU:Core i7-2700K 4.8GHz Mother Board:Asrock Z77Extreme6 Memory:G.SKILL DDR3-2133 16GB Graphic Card:AMD HD7970 1125/1575MHz Display:Eyefinity / Square x3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger-II Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 On 11/9/2022 at 10:10 AM, KoN said: Waiting for Vulkan stopped buying modules and maps . 2021 Vulkan is massively over-rated, and I think people will actually be disappointed with it. 1 Motorola 68000 | 1 Mb | Debug port "When performing a forced landing, fly the aircraft as far into the crash as possible." - Bob Hoover. The JF-17 is not better than the F-16; it's different. It's how you fly that counts. "An average aircraft with a skilled pilot, will out-perform the superior aircraft with an average pilot." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 14 minutes ago, Tiger-II said: Vulkan is massively over-rated, and I think people will actually be disappointed with it. yes, fully agree .. my belief is that multithreading holds more promise. For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoN Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 19 hours ago, Tiger-II said: Vulkan is massively over-rated, and I think people will actually be disappointed with it. "oh I hope not this will put DCS in a bad position . Gigabyte - X570 UD ~ Ryzen - 5600X @ 4.7 - Pulse - RX-6800 - XPG 32:GB @ 3200 - VKB - Gunfighter 4 - STECs - Throttle - Crosswinds Rudders - Trackir 5 . I'm a dot . Pico Nero 3 link VR . @ 4k Win 11 Pro 64Bit . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAPman Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 With 2.8.1, the Hind lightweight mod I created seems to have lost its effect. is it processing efficiency, as the ED announcement said? Thankfully BS3 is also lightweight, though I've been experiencing display bugs with mirrors since 2.8.0. I hear there is such a thing as a Windows 11 + HDR capable display these days. It seems to take a little more time until it becomes popular. https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3326699/ OS:Windows 7 Ultimate CPU:Core i7-2700K 4.8GHz Mother Board:Asrock Z77Extreme6 Memory:G.SKILL DDR3-2133 16GB Graphic Card:AMD HD7970 1125/1575MHz Display:Eyefinity / Square x3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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