Hive Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 (edited) This was already discussed last year, but never clarified whether it is a bug or a feature. So here for the developers: The TGP slew starts to jitter very noticeable with high zoom levels and slow movements. This is neither caused by the throttle/controller nor the axis settings, as the slew gets buttery smooth in active pause (at least that is my experience, please confirm). The video is from 2019, but it is still the same today. Edited May 18, 2022 by Hive 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted May 18, 2022 ED Team Share Posted May 18, 2022 Sorry, I am unable to reproduce this, I am using the Thrustmaster Warthog Throttle with updated slew. Digital Combat Simulator Black Shark 2022.05.18 - 12.08.54.01.mp4 Any sort of curves or dead zone on your slew axis? Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted May 18, 2022 Author Share Posted May 18, 2022 (edited) 49 minutes ago, NineLine said: Sorry, I am unable to reproduce this, I am using the Thrustmaster Warthog Throttle with updated slew. Any sort of curves or dead zone on your slew axis? I have the same setup It happens with customized curves and with standard settings. I just reseted my axis settings and tested again to be sure. I even recalibrated everything. And still: Active Pause on -> buttery smooth Active Pause off -> Jitter I can switch the jitter on/off at will if it is there. That's why I assume that throttle, curves, settings, calibaration, ... are not the cause. Do you need further information? I hope that other users will post their experience, too. Thanks! Edited May 18, 2022 by Hive 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricJ Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 (edited) I've noticed the same with my setup but I just think it's an effect, and not so much a bug. I'd do a video but it really doesn't bother me when it happens to me (and my joystick isn't near me either). And I use a Thrustmaster Hotas One Edited May 18, 2022 by EricJ LOMAC Section| | Gaming Resume (PDF) | Gallery | Flanker2.51 Storage Site | Also known as Flanker562 back in the day... Steam ID EricJ562 | DCS: A-10A/C Pilot | DCS: Su-25T Pilot | Texture Artist "...parade ground soldiers always felt that way (contempt) about killers in uniform." -Counting The Cost, Hammer's Slammers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted May 18, 2022 ED Team Share Posted May 18, 2022 22 minutes ago, Hive said: I have the same setup It happens with customized curves and with standard settings. I just reseted my axis settings and tested again to be sure. I even recalibrated everything. And still: Active Pause on -> buttery smooth Active Pause off -> Jitter I can switch the jitter on/off at will if it is there. That's why I assume that throttle, curves, settings, calibaration, ... are not the cause. But the jitter does not always occur. For example, I just tested it with Instant Mission -> Caucasus -> Free Flight and it was there. No jitter with Instant Mission -> Nevada -> Free Flight. Crazy... Do you need further information? I hope that other users will post their experience, too. Thanks! Give me an exact track when/where it happens, make it long enough that it doesnt shut down on me right away, and I will confirm with that, maybe its specific to something I am missing. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted May 18, 2022 Author Share Posted May 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, NineLine said: Give me an exact track when/where it happens, make it long enough that it doesnt shut down on me right away, and I will confirm with that, maybe its specific to something I am missing. Ok, I'll try tomorrow. And I have to correct myself: it occurs with Nevada Free Flight, too. Deleted that part from my previous entry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenson Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 i have the same issue on my hornet ATFLIR, when the view is maximized, slewing TDC will cause jittering issue. 1 PC Specs: Intel i7 9700, Nvidia RTX 2080S, Corsair 64G DDR4, MSI B360M Mortar Titanium, Intel 760P M.2 256GB SSD + Samsung 1TB SSD, Corsair RM650x Flight Gears: Logitech X56 HOTAS & Flight Rudder Pedals, HP Reverb G2 Modules: F-14A/B, F-15C, F-16C, F/A-18C, AV-8B, A-10C I/II, Supercarrier, Nevada, Persian Gulf, Syria Location: Shanghai, CHINA Project: Operation Hormuz [F/A-18C Multiplayer Campaign] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuxil Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) Thrustmaster Warthog Throttle. fancy pancy boys I just got a good old x52 I have this issue in both my A10C II and my F16. i dont have the F18 so i dont know about it. but looks like a issue across all planes with the tpod I have provided a "short" track where i reproduce this behavioure. A10C2-tgp_jitter.trk Edited May 19, 2022 by nuxil 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted May 19, 2022 Author Share Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) @NineLine Here is my track file. The jitter was present when i replayed the track. @nuxil Thanks for posting yours too! A-10CII TGP Jitter by Hive.trk Edited May 20, 2022 by Hive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted May 26, 2022 Author Share Posted May 26, 2022 @NineLine Are you able to reproduce the problem now? Is there anything else we can provide to help? I only fly the A-10, but as Jenson and nuxil described this might be an issue with the F-16 and F-18, too. So track files for these planes might be helpful, too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted June 1, 2022 ED Team Share Posted June 1, 2022 Thanks, I will take a look, sorry for the delay. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted June 1, 2022 ED Team Share Posted June 1, 2022 Ok, I think I get it now. It almost seems like that when you move the reticle it seemingly is losing its ground stabilization for a split second, giving that appearance of jerkiness. ALthough mine is not as bad as your original video, zoomed all the way in I can see it somewhat, I will report to the team and see what they say. 2 Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted June 2, 2022 Author Share Posted June 2, 2022 Thanks, NineLine. I hope the devs can clarify it. Strange that it seems to differ from person to person and that it is gone in Active Pause. But the latter might show them the solution. Although I got used to the jitter over the years, using the TGP would be much more convenient with smooth movements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted June 2, 2022 ED Team Share Posted June 2, 2022 Well if it's what I said, it makes sense that it doesn't happen in active pause as the aircraft isn't moving so ground stabilization doesn't matter. 1 Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted June 2, 2022 Author Share Posted June 2, 2022 15 hours ago, NineLine said: Well if it's what I said, it makes sense that it doesn't happen in active pause as the aircraft isn't moving so ground stabilization doesn't matter. Yes, you are right. I just tested it with the plane standing still on the ground: no jitter. As soon as I started rolling: jitter. Hit the brakes to stop: jitter gone again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted June 3, 2022 ED Team Share Posted June 3, 2022 Yeah its super weird, like ground stability is broken for a split second over and over. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted June 3, 2022 ED Team Share Posted June 3, 2022 Now reported, but not an A-10C only issue so moving to general bugs. Thanks. 2 Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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