Tomcatter87 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 In a Case 1 scenario, the AI wingman in the A model tomcat (didnt try the F-14B in that regard) lowers his flaps although the wings are swept back. That shouldnt be possible. Modules: F-14A/B | M-2000C | AJS-37 | Mi-24P | F/A-18C | A-10C II | F-16C | UH-1H | F-5E | Mi-8 | FC 3 | AV-8B | A-4E | Gazelle | Ka-50 | Yak-52 | CE2 Maps: Syria | Marianas | NTTR | Persian Gulf | Caucasus Setup: Virpil WarBRD Base & VFX | TM Warthog | Arozzi Velocita Stand | Monstertech Mount | MFG Crosswind | Cougar MFDs | VRInsight Panel | JetSeat 908 | TrackIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AH_Solid_Snake Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 On a related note during recovery as they clear the deck AI F-14s will sweep their wings before the flaps retract, also going through the fuselage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaisedByWolves Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Concur with original post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomcatter87 Posted September 27, 2022 Author Share Posted September 27, 2022 That bug is still there, and it really bugs me. 1 Modules: F-14A/B | M-2000C | AJS-37 | Mi-24P | F/A-18C | A-10C II | F-16C | UH-1H | F-5E | Mi-8 | FC 3 | AV-8B | A-4E | Gazelle | Ka-50 | Yak-52 | CE2 Maps: Syria | Marianas | NTTR | Persian Gulf | Caucasus Setup: Virpil WarBRD Base & VFX | TM Warthog | Arozzi Velocita Stand | Monstertech Mount | MFG Crosswind | Cougar MFDs | VRInsight Panel | JetSeat 908 | TrackIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 On 9/27/2022 at 11:55 AM, Tomcatter87 said: That bug is still there, and it really bugs me. Hey Tomcatter, somehow this managed to fly completely under my radar, my apologies. It is tracked now. We need to check if this is something to be fixed on our side or DCS side, but we will investigate further. Thank you very much for the kind reports and reminder! 4 Heatblur Simulations Please feel free to contact me anytime, either via PM here, on the forums, or via email through the contact form on our homepage. http://www.heatblur.com/ https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomcatter87 Posted September 29, 2022 Author Share Posted September 29, 2022 Thanks, Mike! Modules: F-14A/B | M-2000C | AJS-37 | Mi-24P | F/A-18C | A-10C II | F-16C | UH-1H | F-5E | Mi-8 | FC 3 | AV-8B | A-4E | Gazelle | Ka-50 | Yak-52 | CE2 Maps: Syria | Marianas | NTTR | Persian Gulf | Caucasus Setup: Virpil WarBRD Base & VFX | TM Warthog | Arozzi Velocita Stand | Monstertech Mount | MFG Crosswind | Cougar MFDs | VRInsight Panel | JetSeat 908 | TrackIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomcatter87 Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) @IronMike This is still an issue in the current open beta version. It would be really cool if you guys could fix that - as a screenshot creator whos also working on some videos, that bug with the flaps piercing into the fuselage witnullh swept back wings really spoils one of the coolest parts of the flight. Edited November 29, 2022 by Tomcatter87 Modules: F-14A/B | M-2000C | AJS-37 | Mi-24P | F/A-18C | A-10C II | F-16C | UH-1H | F-5E | Mi-8 | FC 3 | AV-8B | A-4E | Gazelle | Ka-50 | Yak-52 | CE2 Maps: Syria | Marianas | NTTR | Persian Gulf | Caucasus Setup: Virpil WarBRD Base & VFX | TM Warthog | Arozzi Velocita Stand | Monstertech Mount | MFG Crosswind | Cougar MFDs | VRInsight Panel | JetSeat 908 | TrackIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealius Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 @Tomcatter87 Do you do most of your screenshots paused in single player? In multiplayer replay tracks my AI wingmen don't appear to sweep their wings at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomcatter87 Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 17 hours ago, Nealius said: @Tomcatter87 Do you do most of your screenshots paused in single player? In multiplayer replay tracks my AI wingmen don't appear to sweep their wings at all. Yes, it's 95 percent single player with pause. 1 Modules: F-14A/B | M-2000C | AJS-37 | Mi-24P | F/A-18C | A-10C II | F-16C | UH-1H | F-5E | Mi-8 | FC 3 | AV-8B | A-4E | Gazelle | Ka-50 | Yak-52 | CE2 Maps: Syria | Marianas | NTTR | Persian Gulf | Caucasus Setup: Virpil WarBRD Base & VFX | TM Warthog | Arozzi Velocita Stand | Monstertech Mount | MFG Crosswind | Cougar MFDs | VRInsight Panel | JetSeat 908 | TrackIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomcatter87 Posted December 21, 2022 Author Share Posted December 21, 2022 Bug's still there 1 Modules: F-14A/B | M-2000C | AJS-37 | Mi-24P | F/A-18C | A-10C II | F-16C | UH-1H | F-5E | Mi-8 | FC 3 | AV-8B | A-4E | Gazelle | Ka-50 | Yak-52 | CE2 Maps: Syria | Marianas | NTTR | Persian Gulf | Caucasus Setup: Virpil WarBRD Base & VFX | TM Warthog | Arozzi Velocita Stand | Monstertech Mount | MFG Crosswind | Cougar MFDs | VRInsight Panel | JetSeat 908 | TrackIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustBelt Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 I suspect, like many things, it’s a half Heatblur, half ED kind if problem. Meaning, don’t hold your breath. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomcatter87 Posted February 11, 2023 Author Share Posted February 11, 2023 (edited) So, eight months after the first report, this is still happening. Could you please look at it, @IronMike and Heatblur team? Edited April 24, 2023 by Tomcatter87 1 Modules: F-14A/B | M-2000C | AJS-37 | Mi-24P | F/A-18C | A-10C II | F-16C | UH-1H | F-5E | Mi-8 | FC 3 | AV-8B | A-4E | Gazelle | Ka-50 | Yak-52 | CE2 Maps: Syria | Marianas | NTTR | Persian Gulf | Caucasus Setup: Virpil WarBRD Base & VFX | TM Warthog | Arozzi Velocita Stand | Monstertech Mount | MFG Crosswind | Cougar MFDs | VRInsight Panel | JetSeat 908 | TrackIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomcatter87 Posted April 22, 2023 Author Share Posted April 22, 2023 (edited) It's still there. Please find a way to fix it. Edited April 24, 2023 by Tomcatter87 Modules: F-14A/B | M-2000C | AJS-37 | Mi-24P | F/A-18C | A-10C II | F-16C | UH-1H | F-5E | Mi-8 | FC 3 | AV-8B | A-4E | Gazelle | Ka-50 | Yak-52 | CE2 Maps: Syria | Marianas | NTTR | Persian Gulf | Caucasus Setup: Virpil WarBRD Base & VFX | TM Warthog | Arozzi Velocita Stand | Monstertech Mount | MFG Crosswind | Cougar MFDs | VRInsight Panel | JetSeat 908 | TrackIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silhou Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 @Tomcatter87hey! Thanks for the heads up on this. Will let the team know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomcatter87 Posted May 12, 2023 Author Share Posted May 12, 2023 I have the feeling it might be related: while cruising, the AI wingmen do weird stuff with their flaps DCS 2023-05-08 20-03-26.mp4 . 1 Modules: F-14A/B | M-2000C | AJS-37 | Mi-24P | F/A-18C | A-10C II | F-16C | UH-1H | F-5E | Mi-8 | FC 3 | AV-8B | A-4E | Gazelle | Ka-50 | Yak-52 | CE2 Maps: Syria | Marianas | NTTR | Persian Gulf | Caucasus Setup: Virpil WarBRD Base & VFX | TM Warthog | Arozzi Velocita Stand | Monstertech Mount | MFG Crosswind | Cougar MFDs | VRInsight Panel | JetSeat 908 | TrackIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomcatter87 Posted August 29, 2023 Author Share Posted August 29, 2023 (edited) Sad to see this is still a thing. Edited August 30, 2023 by Tomcatter87 Modules: F-14A/B | M-2000C | AJS-37 | Mi-24P | F/A-18C | A-10C II | F-16C | UH-1H | F-5E | Mi-8 | FC 3 | AV-8B | A-4E | Gazelle | Ka-50 | Yak-52 | CE2 Maps: Syria | Marianas | NTTR | Persian Gulf | Caucasus Setup: Virpil WarBRD Base & VFX | TM Warthog | Arozzi Velocita Stand | Monstertech Mount | MFG Crosswind | Cougar MFDs | VRInsight Panel | JetSeat 908 | TrackIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan111sqn Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 and also AI has a different AoA and sweep wing angle than you when flying at the same speed and altitude. It seems that it is also a problem of the AI flight model, far away of the F-14 flight model 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealius Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Probably won't get fixed until we get the GFM. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draconus Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 On 9/2/2023 at 6:34 PM, Nealius said: Probably won't get fixed until we get the GFM. Sweep depends on Mach and altitude - nothing a SFM can't handle. Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX3060 Rift S T16000M TWCS TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealius Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) Ideally, but DCS SFM tends to mean “Special-needs Flight Model.” Edited September 12, 2023 by Nealius 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomcatter87 Posted October 5, 2023 Author Share Posted October 5, 2023 Thing is, there WAS a time when it looked correct. Just went through my old screenshots and once upon a time the flaps of the wingman didnt clip into the fuselage / rubber bags. Modules: F-14A/B | M-2000C | AJS-37 | Mi-24P | F/A-18C | A-10C II | F-16C | UH-1H | F-5E | Mi-8 | FC 3 | AV-8B | A-4E | Gazelle | Ka-50 | Yak-52 | CE2 Maps: Syria | Marianas | NTTR | Persian Gulf | Caucasus Setup: Virpil WarBRD Base & VFX | TM Warthog | Arozzi Velocita Stand | Monstertech Mount | MFG Crosswind | Cougar MFDs | VRInsight Panel | JetSeat 908 | TrackIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomcatter87 Posted February 20 Author Share Posted February 20 Checked it yesterday, it is still an issue. @IronMike 1 Modules: F-14A/B | M-2000C | AJS-37 | Mi-24P | F/A-18C | A-10C II | F-16C | UH-1H | F-5E | Mi-8 | FC 3 | AV-8B | A-4E | Gazelle | Ka-50 | Yak-52 | CE2 Maps: Syria | Marianas | NTTR | Persian Gulf | Caucasus Setup: Virpil WarBRD Base & VFX | TM Warthog | Arozzi Velocita Stand | Monstertech Mount | MFG Crosswind | Cougar MFDs | VRInsight Panel | JetSeat 908 | TrackIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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