upyr1 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Needless to say I am quite happy about getting the F-4 Phantom II, however there is a lack of Vietnam era bluefor assets. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Dragon Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 HB has no tell nothing about assets, but I think can be The A-6 AI and some other in a future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunfreak Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Needs map before assets. Sure the ww2 Marianas map might work as a stand in. But there's very little land there. 1 i7 13700k @5.2ghz, GTX 3090, 64Gig ram 4800mhz DDR5, M2 drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinlein Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Sure a few period correct assets would be neat but i wont hold my breath. But who knows, Heatblur is quite secretive about this module. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upyr1 Posted June 27, 2022 Author Share Posted June 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Gunfreak said: Needs map before assets. Sure the ww2 Marianas map might work as a stand in. But there's very little land there. Even without a Vietnam map some 1960s-1970s assets would still be nice.we could have a what if cold war turned hot on another theater or a 1975 red flag on the Nellis map. 40 minutes ago, Heinlein said: Sure a few period correct assets would be neat but i wont hold my breath. But who knows, Heatblur is quite secretive about this module. If we just got a thud to escort I would be happy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakey-Poo Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 The A-6 is in the works, and there is an absolutely amazing A-4 community mod (that I wish could somehow be integrated into the core game for mp purposes). Cold War era interest is on the rise thanks in part to enigma&co’s beautiful work, so it’d make (business) sense if more assets were to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremspropeller Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 (edited) A RF-101, a F-105 or even a Hun (which I'd personally slightly prefer) as AI assets would be very cool. Or an actual huffer-cart for startup. Actual ladders and a helmet on the canopy frame (we've seen those things before). The little things... Edited July 3, 2022 by Bremspropeller So ein Feuerball, JUNGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromthedeep Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Is this even going to be a Vietnam era Phantom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quid Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 50 minutes ago, Fromthedeep said: Is this even going to be a Vietnam era Phantom? Recommend reading the FAQs. #2 would indicate "kind of"... the first E-model Phantom released will be from roundabouts 1974, which is after most American action in Vietnam. However, there is a technicality: Operation Frequent Wind took place in April 1975, where Navy and Air Force Phantoms performed their final combat sorties over Vietnam. I'm not certain all of the aircraft involved, but am aware F-4Ds were flying for the USAF from the 34th TFS, 388th TFW. The 388th did have F-4Es assigned during OFW from the 44th TFS. For the USN, F-4Ns from VF-151 and -161 aboard the USS Midway (alongside F-14As from Enterprise on their combat debut) were involved. So, that being said, if the first F-4E is going to be from around 1974, it's from after almost all of the combat was done for the US Military, but it would be appropriate for OFW, so technically a Vietnam-era Phantom. Rig: i9 10900KF @5.3GHz | 64GB G.Skill DDR4 3600MHz | ASUS ROG STRIX RTX 3090 24GB OC | ASUS Maximus XII Formula | 2x 2TB Intel SSD6 NVMe M.2 | VKB F-14CG on Gunfighter III Base | TM Warthog HOTAS | TM Rudder Pedals | HP Reverb G2 Hangar: FC3 | F-86F | F-4E [Pre-Ordered] | F-5E | F-14A/B | F-15E | F-16C | F/A-18C | Mirage 2000C | JF-17 | MiG-15bis | MiG-19P | MiG-21bis | AJS-37 | AV-8B | L39 | C-101 | A-10C/CII | Yak-52 | P-51D | P-47D | Fw 190 A-8/D-9 | Bf 109 | Spitfire | I-16 | UH-1 Huey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upyr1 Posted July 3, 2022 Author Share Posted July 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, Quid said: Recommend reading the FAQs. #2 would indicate "kind of"... the first E-model Phantom released will be from roundabouts 1974, which is after most American action in Vietnam. However, there is a technicality: Operation Frequent Wind took place in April 1975, where Navy and Air Force Phantoms performed their final combat sorties over Vietnam. I'm not certain all of the aircraft involved, but am aware F-4Ds were flying for the USAF from the 34th TFS, 388th TFW. The 388th did have F-4Es assigned during OFW from the 44th TFS. For the USN, F-4Ns from VF-151 and -161 aboard the USS Midway (alongside F-14As from Enterprise on their combat debut) were involved. So, that being said, if the first F-4E is going to be from around 1974, it's from after almost all of the combat was done for the US Military, but it would be appropriate for OFW, so technically a Vietnam-era Phantom. I thought we were getting a linebacker Phantom and a post Vietnam Phantom. Anyway an AI B-52D, F-105 or other asset from 1965 to 1975 would be nice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quid Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 14 minutes ago, upyr1 said: I thought we were getting a linebacker Phantom and a post Vietnam Phantom. Anyway an AI B-52D, F-105 or other asset from 1965 to 1975 would be nice. Might be in the future, I'm just referencing the FAQs because that's the most official reference. HB may well build the whole Phantom family, but at least according to the FAQs, the first F-4E to be released will be from a bit later. Rig: i9 10900KF @5.3GHz | 64GB G.Skill DDR4 3600MHz | ASUS ROG STRIX RTX 3090 24GB OC | ASUS Maximus XII Formula | 2x 2TB Intel SSD6 NVMe M.2 | VKB F-14CG on Gunfighter III Base | TM Warthog HOTAS | TM Rudder Pedals | HP Reverb G2 Hangar: FC3 | F-86F | F-4E [Pre-Ordered] | F-5E | F-14A/B | F-15E | F-16C | F/A-18C | Mirage 2000C | JF-17 | MiG-15bis | MiG-19P | MiG-21bis | AJS-37 | AV-8B | L39 | C-101 | A-10C/CII | Yak-52 | P-51D | P-47D | Fw 190 A-8/D-9 | Bf 109 | Spitfire | I-16 | UH-1 Huey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromthedeep Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Quid said: Recommend reading the FAQs. #2 would indicate "kind of"... the first E-model Phantom released will be from roundabouts 1974, which is after most American action in Vietnam. However, there is a technicality: Operation Frequent Wind took place in April 1975, where Navy and Air Force Phantoms performed their final combat sorties over Vietnam. I'm not certain all of the aircraft involved, but am aware F-4Ds were flying for the USAF from the 34th TFS, 388th TFW. The 388th did have F-4Es assigned during OFW from the 44th TFS Thanks, your info about the 44th TFS is exactly what I was looking for. Do you have any data on how these aircraft were equipped? Would these aircraft have DSCG and Maverick support for example? If not, how different is the display from the one that was utilized by this squadron in that timeframe? Based on your comment, it's safe to include that while our Phantom may technically be part of the last operations of the Vietnam war, it wouldn't really be a from a timeframe that represents the conflict well. This is also an issue with the vast majority of other modules. Very few of those are going to be Vietnam era variants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upyr1 Posted July 4, 2022 Author Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Quid said: Might be in the future, I'm just referencing the FAQs because that's the most official reference. HB may well build the whole Phantom family, but at least according to the FAQs, the first F-4E to be released will be from a bit later. As I said earlier even if I was wrong on it being a linebacker Phantom it wouldn't change the fact the F-100 was retired in the late 1970’s I believe 79. The F-105 was retired in the early 1980s and the 102 and 106 a bit later so would overlap with our Phantom and the MiG-19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon1-1 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 The F-105 was actually retired post-Vietnam for most part, the only ones to last into the 80s were the Wild Weasels. In fact, the primary reason single seat Thuds were phased out was that a good chunk of them got shot down over Vietnam. The Weasels had a lot of fancy electronics, so they were kept for a while afterward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremspropeller Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 3 hours ago, Dragon1-1 said: The F-105 was actually retired post-Vietnam for most part, the only ones to last into the 80s were the Wild Weasels. Single seaters flew with the Guard into the 80s as well. http://users.vermontel.net/~tomh/AIRCRAFT/F105ANG/F105ANG.html So ein Feuerball, JUNGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upyr1 Posted July 6, 2022 Author Share Posted July 6, 2022 On 7/4/2022 at 6:39 AM, Dragon1-1 said: The F-105 was actually retired post-Vietnam for most part, the only ones to last into the 80s were the Wild Weasels. In fact, the primary reason single seat Thuds were phased out was that a good chunk of them got shot down over Vietnam. The Weasels had a lot of fancy electronics, so they were kept for a while afterward. The older Phantom we have I believe is from 74. On 7/4/2022 at 10:13 AM, Bremspropeller said: Single seaters flew with the Guard into the 80s as well. http://users.vermontel.net/~tomh/AIRCRAFT/F105ANG/F105ANG.html I was thinking this was the case. Even if I had been wrong both d and g thuds would be cool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLTeo Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Yeah the same goes for the F-100 and RF-101 - both flew with the Guard until the late 70s iirc, which is also when the F-106 left ADC (but it remained with the guard until the late 80s). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarthogOsl Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 (edited) 20 hours ago, TLTeo said: Yeah the same goes for the F-100 and RF-101 - both flew with the Guard until the late 70s iirc, which is also when the F-106 left ADC (but it remained with the guard until the late 80s). Indeed. Here's a couple pics I took at some 80's era airshows. Unfortunately, I did not get to see them fly. I threw in a Canadian F-101B (at the Edwards AFB show) just because. And there are some F-4's in the background of at least two of these, just to keep it on-topic. Edited July 6, 2022 by WarthogOsl 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinlein Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 A era correct fueling truck, tow tractor, air start and ground power units would be great to spice up the airfield environment a bit 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_BringTheReign_ Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 13 hours ago, Heinlein said: era correct fueling truck, tow tractor, air start and ground power units Out of curiosity if someone wanted to make a mod with these assets, what would be the best place to learn more about these units? https://youtube.com/@thesimnet questions@thesimnet.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baco Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 (edited) It doesnt matter what they promis, I am still waiting for the SAAB 35 Draken (Viggen) and the A-6 intruder ... Not to mention the persian cat... But yeah Ground vehicles for having period apropiate assets at the base would be very, very welcome. Edited July 7, 2022 by Baco 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit21 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) On 6/27/2022 at 12:39 PM, Gunfreak said: Needs map before assets. Sure the ww2 Marianas map might work as a stand in. But there's very little land there. Nah There's lots of possibilities on other maps during the Vietnam era, including "what if"/fictional scenarios etc. I know I have at least 2 ideas and neither needs a Vietnam map, even though they take place during that time. Sure I want a Vietnam map, but some creativity a lot of things are possible already. So yes please on the assets. Edited July 14, 2022 by Gambit21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexus-6 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 On 7/7/2022 at 12:05 AM, Heinlein said: A era correct fueling truck, tow tractor, air start and ground power units would be great to spice up the airfield environment a bit Yes. The Supercarrier got deck crews to make it feel more alive. Therefore, the airfields should likewise have ground assets. Can't pretend fly as well as you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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