dcs bug M08 crash issue...

[Evilone]

Hi BD.

First congrats to you, Hoser, Jello and the whole team on a fantastic campaign.  Loving it so far.
Raven One was a high water mark, and you've just reset it with DF. 

M08 Issues:

1- The target co-ords are wrong on the kneeboard notes.

----WARNING: Potential spoiler below!!

2- I've now tried M08 4 times and every time I form up with Redkite after he's hit the sim crashes.  I usually catch him just after we pass over the first mountain peaks.

It might be just my computer freaking out, but other missions and campaigns seem to work fine so i thought id mention it here and see if anyone else is having similar issues...?

Edited July 2, 2022 by Evilone
Added potential spoiler alert

[lax22]

 

[baltic_dragon]

There are a lot of reports about CTD's but none of them are consistent, ie happening to everyone. I also cannot reproduce them, so there is nothing I can do - this is likely on DCS, some of your settings etc. Sorry I can't help here...

[Yurgon]

13 hours ago, baltic_dragon said:

I also cannot reproduce them

I second that; in testing the campaign (every mission at least once, most of them more often than that), I think my DCS crashed once. Or maybe not at all. Of course that was done in a slightly older version of DCS, but on a general note, I didn't see anything in the campaign that would consistently crash DCS. But I think others testers did have a few problems.

I was about to note that 3rd party mods should usually be deactivated, especially when crashes occur. But I think I have the A-4, UH-60 and C-130 mods plus a whole bunch more all active in my DCS installation and these obviously didn't cause problems. Still, deactivating mods, if any are installed, would be a good starting point. Plus, DCS logs may help us pin down the individual problems; anyone who suffers a crash in the campaign, feel free to post your DCS.log.

[Skey]

Also getting the crash, though at this point I've tried the mission 8 times. Same exact situation. Red gets hit, then when flying over the mountains back to the coast the sim crashes. 

Attaching the logfile below. Maybe someone can make better sense of it than me. This campaign is *chef's kiss*. 

dcs.20210609-221521.crash

Edited July 7, 2022 by Skey

[DunneBucket]

Jumping in with the same problem.

Try 1 game crashed when rejoining with RED before feet wet.

Try 2 game crashed after feet wet when RED joins on Flip.

Try 3 fired my maverick, ignored RED entirely, and went buster straight home to mother... game crashed 2 minutes from landing. Heart broken.

Open to advice or hopefully ED can solve.

Other than being stuck here I'm absolutely loving the campaign. Thanks!

[DunneBucket]

Try 4: set graphics to lowest possible settings, fired maverick, ignored RED entirely, buster to carrier, landed. 100/100. Solved for now.

[tsgucci]

Unfortunately had the same issue twice. CTD when Red and myself got feet wet. Tried to "escape" after my Maverick shot but was waiting too much most probably.

[baltic_dragon]

Hey! Do you have any 3rd party mods enabled? I had issues reported by people several times and in most cases they were gone after disabling the mods. Even had someone trying to play the whole campaign in Superhornet - unfortunately many 3rd party mods are not compatible with DLC campaigns. Try to disable them and run the repair. I cannot reproduce the CTDs and a lot of folks have finished the campaign without a single CTD... which means that the problem is likely on your end and not with the campaign. Let me know if removing the mods works. 

[tsgucci]

Hey Baltic!

Actuall I recently had to reinstall my whole machine, fresh win10 and DCS install. My mods are Tacview and SRS, nothing else.

I am using VR with OpenXR.

[Fogo11]

I am having same issue, even after updating to latest DCS version.

I have no crashes whatsoever when playing MP for hours, or other missions/campaigns.

 

Everytime Red and I are feet wet the game crash, tried it a couple of times with no success.

[EagleDriver95]

Having the same issue. Rejoining with Red over the mountains, just before feet wet, DCS freezes. I didn't manage to get a crash report, had to Task Manager end the program, but here is my DCS log from today. 

dcs.log

[brran]

Also have game freeze not responding on Mission 8 same location as others, rejoining with Red as soon as we get feet wet, Game freezes, no mods installed, running in VR,

log attached

dcs.log

[EagleDriver95]

This is a shot in the dark....in certain other campaigns from my multiplayer group, we've had issues with cruise missiles impacting terrain/acting weirdly and freezing up people's DCS. I remembered there being something in the briefing about cruise missiles from the task force in this mission....haven't had a chance to look in Tacview but any chance the Tomahawks are whacking something out (and they just happen to impact right around the time we are rejoining with Red?)

Edited July 24, 2022 by EagleDriver95

[PB0_corse66]

Just completed the mission after a crash on the first attempt.

Couple of points : 

1/Kneepad coordinates are wrong as stated (both are wrong, but very wrong ^^ for example for the north you have a .70 for the seconds.. not possible ^^)

2/ Before my crash I noticed a HUGE drop of FPS.. then a crash.. I've noticed it's because I was rejoining Red with my radar, but my FLIR was still on and thus locked on Red and on the heavy smoke.. looks like my computer didn't like it at all.. 

I switch my FLIR off after firing my maverick. Mission worked like a charm.

[Yurgon]

On 7/2/2022 at 11:34 AM, Evilone said:

1- The target co-ords are wrong on the kneeboard notes.

 

2 hours ago, PB0_corse66 said:

1/Kneepad coordinates are wrong as stated (both are wrong, but very wrong ^^ for example for the north you have a .70 for the seconds.. not possible ^^)

What's wrong with the coordinates?

I can enter them in normal mode just fine, they'll be missing the last 2 digits then, or in PRECISE format, and they're exactly on the target.

[PB0_corse66]

It's because you are much smarter than me  

Not sure because it is out of habit or because the other coordinates on the picture of the target are in the other format, or because in the kneepad it is listed N34.01.70.95 but actually I did press Lat LN on the HSI after using precise coordinates.

But actually if you use the other format (the one by default) you are indeed able to enter N34.01.7095 ... of course N34.01.70.95 can't exist because in that format you can't have seconds over 60.

[Quax]

Ok, guys. Deactivated all my mods except the official ones. Still the mission is crashing right after the BDA confirmation of the Ravens after "feet wet". I checked dcs.log - no error messages

 

Update:
I just found two messages in DCS-BIOS.log (which has a timestamp that fits the time of the crash):

Util.lua: value 524053.000000 is too large for address 29944 mask 65535
Util.lua: value 1900515.000000 is too large for address 29950 mask 65535

Maybe that has something to do with the crash. I can't test again until tomorrow evening but maybe this info helps you guys.

Edited August 1, 2022 by Quax

[Quax]

Ok, looks like the DCS-BIOS messages aren't related to the crash. However, on my last test I got the following log messages right when the crash happens:

2022-08-06 14:23:29.358 ERROR   SOUND: invalid source_params(woLA-16806656:aircrafts/uh-60/enginel): gain
2022-08-06 14:23:29.358 ERROR   SOUND: invalid source_params(woLA-16806656:aircrafts/uh-60/enginer): gain
2022-08-06 14:23:29.358 ERROR   SOUND: invalid source_params(woLA-16806656:aircrafts/uh-60/rotor): gain
2022-08-06 14:23:29.358 ERROR   SOUND: invalid source_params(woLA-16806656:aircrafts/uh-60/distant_flyby_s): gain
2022-08-06 14:23:29.358 ERROR   SOUND: invalid source_params(woLA-16806656:aircrafts/uh-60/distant_flyby_b): gain

Anybody know what those mean and maybe has a workaround?

[Roosterfeet]

On 8/6/2022 at 9:27 AM, Quax said:

Ok, looks like the DCS-BIOS messages aren't related to the crash. However, on my last test I got the following log messages right when the crash happens:

2022-08-06 14:23:29.358 ERROR   SOUND: invalid source_params(woLA-16806656:aircrafts/uh-60/enginel): gain
2022-08-06 14:23:29.358 ERROR   SOUND: invalid source_params(woLA-16806656:aircrafts/uh-60/enginer): gain
2022-08-06 14:23:29.358 ERROR   SOUND: invalid source_params(woLA-16806656:aircrafts/uh-60/rotor): gain
2022-08-06 14:23:29.358 ERROR   SOUND: invalid source_params(woLA-16806656:aircrafts/uh-60/distant_flyby_s): gain
2022-08-06 14:23:29.358 ERROR   SOUND: invalid source_params(woLA-16806656:aircrafts/uh-60/distant_flyby_b): gain

Anybody know what those mean and maybe has a workaround?

I always hit a permanent freeze where DCS quits responding at the end of mission 8, around 50 nm from Mother. I have the same errors in my log but they happen more than 10 minutes before the freeze:

2022-08-07 22:16:03.072 ERROR   SOUND: invalid source_params(woLA-16806656:aircrafts/uh-60/enginel): gain
2022-08-07 22:16:03.072 ERROR   SOUND: invalid source_params(woLA-16806656:aircrafts/uh-60/enginer): gain
2022-08-07 22:16:03.072 ERROR   SOUND: invalid source_params(woLA-16806656:aircrafts/uh-60/rotor): gain
2022-08-07 22:16:03.072 ERROR   SOUND: invalid source_params(woLA-16806656:aircrafts/uh-60/distant_flyby_s): gain
2022-08-07 22:16:03.072 ERROR   SOUND: invalid source_params(woLA-16806656:aircrafts/uh-60/distant_flyby_b): gain
...
2022-08-07 22:19:53.697 ERROR   SOUND: can't load wave: "speech\eng\common\allied flight\usa\3\effects\aircrafts\cockpits\radioclickbefore.wav"
2022-08-07 22:19:53.730 ERROR   SOUND: can't load wave: "speech\eng\common\allied flight\usa\3\effects\aircrafts\cockpits\radioclickafter.wav"
...
2022-08-07 22:30:59.191 DEBUG   Scripting: Phrases make : key = 4364
 

The good news is that I skipped Mission 8 and mission 9 is an excellent mission that I was able to land without a freeze.

[baltic_dragon]

Hey @Roosterfeet any freezes and crashes are on the DCS side, and not on the campaign itself. Do you have any 3rd party mods installed? Quite a few people stopped having problems after disabling these. 

[Roosterfeet]

No mods at all, I even removed Tacview and ran a cleanup and slow repair before my last RODF08 freeze. No doubt it's a DCS bug, possibly the same as a similar issue others have reported related to AI Tomcats in the 2.7 bug forum. This mission is the only place I've encountered it. I'm 3 freezes on 3 attempts at completing it. I wonder what's happening in the mission that causes the bug to revel itself and if the circumstances can be replicated in a shorter mission to help ED track the bug down?

[Jakes]

Hi @baltic_dragon

 

I seem to be having the exact same, or extremely similar issue that Roosterfeet is having. 

I have made 10 attempts now, 9 of them crashed to desktop between 67 and 50 miles out from Mother, the 10th crashed +-20miles out from the Tanker (Hoped tanking would make a difference).
All other aspects of the mission work flawlessly except for a strange black screen that appears to block out my forward view,  the whole screen goes black until I look around a bit, then it clears up. This only happens over the target area while orbiting and waiting for the second set of targets, and it happens every time.

3 Missions were flown after the initial release.
3 after patch 2.7.16.27869.
3 after patch 2.7.16.28111.
1 after Hotfix patch 2.7.16.28157 (Tonight).

After patch 2.7.16.27869 I removed all these mods: ReShade, VNAO T45, Tactical AWACS, 476 Range Targets, China Assets Pack.
After patch 2.7.16.28111 I went further and also removed Tacview, did a deep repair and Re-Installed All my campaigns.
I made sure to clear my fxo and metashaders2 folders after each update.

Currently I have the following DCS items installed: F/A-18C, F-14, Super Carrier, Marianas, Nevada, Persian Gulf, Syria, Operation Cerberus North, Raven One and Raven One - Dominant Fury.
I am running the following DCS Related items in the background: 
- DCS Bios - To run my Logitec Flight Panel
- PW-Dev Script/LUA to run my DCS UFC app on my tablet
- Matric - Runs a digital button box on my tablet (Similar to GameGlass)
- SRS is open in background
- Facetrack NoIR head-tracking
- My custom display setup LUA

On another screen I have Adobe Acrobat reader open for the kneeboard pdf's and Smart PSS to keep an eye on our home security cameras and sometimes Discord

I have the logs from 4 mission after patch 2.7.16.27869 that I have attached.

 

R1-DF Mission 08 - 08-08-22 - dcs.log R1-DF Mission 08 - 25-07-22 - dcs.log R1-DF Mission 08 - 26-07-22 - dcs.log R1-DF Mission 08 - 29-07-22 - dcs.log

Edited August 8, 2022 by Jakes
Logs did not upload and spelling

[Jayhawk1971]

Same issue as described above, DCS crashes/ stops responding shortly after Jello declares feet wet.

Most recent patch (August 24th), no mods installed. 

Edited August 28, 2022 by Jayhawk1971

[baltic_dragon]

It seems that the crashes occur in missions where AI F-14 is present. As I understand this is internally fixed by Heatblur, we need to wait for the next patch...