esequiel Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 In VIS mode : - Slew the TD box inside the HUD on the ground - Press TMS UP, the TD box is now ground stabilized and the Maverick (Circle) is slaved to the TD box. - With WPN page SOI, slew the Maverick outside the TD box - Press TMS to try to lock. The succes of the lock doesn't matter - Press TMS down. The Maverick (and the circle) return to the TD box. BUT no more ground stabilized or slaved to the TD box. MAV no more slaved to the TD BOX.trk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEOMOOSE Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 (edited) Perhaps some steps are missing there. After you pressed TMS up to ground stabilize the TD box. Switch SOI to weapon page and refine targeting via cursor. This is how its supposed to work, in VIS mode. Edited July 3, 2022 by TEOMOOSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_SteelFalcon_ Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 (edited) 57 minutes ago, TEOMOOSE said: Perhaps some steps are missing there. After you pressed TMS up to ground stabilize the TD box. Switch SOI to weapon page and refine targeting via cursor. This is how its supposed to work, in VIS mode. Say, you lock the wrong thing and have to break lock. Should the missile still be ground stabilized to the td box or not? Cuz currently it isnt, and you have to reset the whole process starting with HUD SOI etc Edited July 3, 2022 by _SteelFalcon_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEOMOOSE Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 (edited) Once you ground stabilized the td box (hud soi) you control the wpn seeker (wpn soi). If by mistake you have locked the wrong target, keep wpn page soi tms aft and try again, or make HUD soi and slew td box where you want it, than wpn soi etc. If your td box completely out of place than, again HUD soi tms aft to set back to FPM, and try again. Visual mode is good only for Off-boresight designations with hmcs, you may argue. Otherwise i would use the bore mode. Keep it simple no need to mess around with SOI. 16 minutes ago, _SteelFalcon_ said: Should the missile still be ground stabilized to the td box or not? no, it will only undo what you had previously targeted Edited July 3, 2022 by TEOMOOSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEOMOOSE Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 On the other hand in Bore mode, When you press TMS aft, it will reset back to the FPM . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_SteelFalcon_ Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 43 minutes ago, TEOMOOSE said: If by mistake you have locked the wrong target, keep wpn page soi tms aft and try again, That‘s what i mean. During that part, does the missile stay stabilized or not? Currently in DCS it doesnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esequiel Posted July 3, 2022 Author Share Posted July 3, 2022 4 hours ago, TEOMOOSE said: Perhaps some steps are missing there. After you pressed TMS up to ground stabilize the TD box. Switch SOI to weapon page and refine targeting via cursor. This is how its supposed to work, in VIS mode. this is exactly what i am doing, and this is not the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederf Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 If TMS aft returns missile slave to TD LOS then it should be slaved to TD LOS. You're saying that it instantaneously returns to TD LOS but drifts away after? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FusRoPotato Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 (edited) It's the same after rifling one off too, it slaves to bore instead of vis and vis has to be redone. This is not the case when using the TGP or markpoints, so the only current workaround is to use a markpoint instead of vis. Don't think it's supposed to be like that for obvious reasons. These systems are designed under the presumption that time is critical, but it's not specifically documented anywhere. Edited July 3, 2022 by FusRoPotato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esequiel Posted July 4, 2022 Author Share Posted July 4, 2022 22 hours ago, Frederf said: If TMS aft returns missile slave to TD LOS then it should be slaved to TD LOS. You're saying that it instantaneously returns to TD LOS but drifts away after? Exactly, the missile is space stabilised and not ground stabilised on the TD box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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