still in development Impressive AI changes!

[b0bl00i]

After asking for a more improved AI for over a decade, I have to say I'm impressed. The only thing I'm lacking is a description from ED what has changed (bvr has been described) but not BFM AI. Can you shed some light on this? 

Good job on this part of the AI. Now bring on the wingman / package and atc changes!! 

[Dragon1-1]

Well, as far as "what has changed", the AI now flies somewhat sensibly in a BVR situation. Previously, it basically flew into your missiles like an idiot. It still doesn't do group tactics or BFM, but that's supposedly coming. I'm really looking forward to BFM in particular, I love close-in fights.

[M1Combat]

Same...  I don't think they've deployed the BFM updates yet but I haven't tested for a "stealthy" deployment either :).  I've been doing PVP for now...  Mostly the F86 in the cold war server.

[draconus]

BFM changes are not there yet. Here are more details on BVR changes already implemented.

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Beyond Visual Range (BVR) Combat AI Improvements:

• Available BVR tactics and skill of execution is highly dependent upon AI Skill Level setting.
• Added timer for missile evasive manoeuvres when notching. This better allows the AI to defeat a radar operating in Memory (MEM) mode.
• AI will use airspeed and altitude based on Skill Level to optimise missile launch kinematics. It will try to be fast and high.
• AI will maximise distance between aircraft and target at time of missile impact, based on Skill Level, by using offsets (crank) and reduced airspeed.
• Based on Skill Level, AI will appropriately use lead, pure, and lag intercept geometry.
• AI will use a low slice in an offset/crank manoeuvre to force an incoming missile into denser air, provide the AI more manoeuvrability, and force hostile radar into a look-down.
• Based on Skill Level, AI will use different defensive manoeuvres such as look down clutter notch and reversal/extensions.
• AI will randomly use the direction of offsets (cranks) and notches.
• Use chaff  when the missile is 60 degrees off the nose. This allows the AI to use chaff more effectively when abeam of the threat radar.
• Aircraft without radar guided missiles will not climb and accelerate to intercept the enemy.

 

Edited July 4, 2022 by draconus

[schurem]

Oh some improvements to BFM AI have most definitely been made. They do beautiful rolling jinks in gun evasion now and tend to stay on speed and at max rate much better.

[Red_Camarada]

Hi everyone, is the new AI for dogfight already implemented? 

under some instant action missions the AI sometimes does something different while sometimes don't(just the same vertical maneuver).

[Dragon1-1]

It's not, still as dumb as ever. Next patch, hopefully.

[BIGNEWY]

Hi all, thanks for the comments.

While some initial BFM AI changes were released earlier, much more extensive ones are currently in development that we hope to release later this summer. 

thank you

[Spartan111sqn]

Yes I can say that I already have seen improvements on BFM, mainly jinkings.

 

By the way, @BIGNEWY when will you implement cooperation among other fighters or allied SAMs?, Grinder or CAP coordination from AI would be also awesome and another level in the flying experience.

 

Keep pushin¡g.

Edited July 5, 2022 by Spartan111sqn

[BIGNEWY]

posts merged

[Ian Boys UK]

On 7/4/2022 at 10:39 AM, schurem said:

Oh some improvements to BFM AI have most definitely been made. They do beautiful rolling jinks in gun evasion now and tend to stay on speed and at max rate much better.

Agreed

[oldcrusty]

On 7/4/2022 at 2:39 AM, schurem said:

Oh some improvements to BFM AI have most definitely been made. They do beautiful rolling jinks in gun evasion now and tend to stay on speed and at max rate much better.

Agreed indeed. Here's a short example of 'ace' level jeff...  surprised the heck out me.  I was actually trying to make a vid (and a track) showing the bug with TD box getting stuck on occasion, after hard maneuvering:

 

 

[pimp]

The F5 AI surprised the heck out of me also.

[Willie Nelson]

On 7/5/2022 at 11:47 PM, BIGNEWY said:

Hi all, thanks for the comments.

While some initial BFM AI changes were released earlier, much more extensive ones are currently in development that we hope to release later this summer. 

thank you

I’m really happy to hear that, hopefully this will include the new and improved general flight model so that we can practice formation with AI aircraft as Wags discussed sometime back.