geshabuL_ Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 My question's really simple, honestly. I can't seem to find what the differences are between all the variants that will sooner or later come to DCS. Any explanation would be appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterH Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 CE: the first bird we're getting, mainly an interceptor with some unguided ground attack weapons too. Navigation through radio beacons. EE: As above, but in addition to that: aerial refueling probe, INS navigation system, option to use a better RWR BE: Mostly like CE afaik, but a two seater training bird. Guns are deleted. M: modernized in late-ish 90s and has a more modern HUD and MFDs. 7 2 Wishlist: F-4E Block 53 +, MiG-27K, Su-17M3 or M4, AH-1F or W circa 80s or early 90s, J35 Draken, Kfir C7, Mirage III/V DCS-Dismounts Script Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geshabuL_ Posted July 10, 2022 Author Share Posted July 10, 2022 1 hour ago, WinterH said: CE: the first bird we're getting, mainly an interceptor with some unguided ground attack weapons too. Navigation through radio beacons. EE: As above, but in addition to that: aerial refueling probe, INS navigation system, option to use a better RWR BE: Mostly like CE afaik, but a two seater training bird. Guns are deleted. M: modernized in late-ish 90s and has a more modern HUD and MFDs. Thanks a lot! I am sure many others will find this useful! Additional question, is there a confirmation about the Super 530s, I suppose only the M variant will be able to carry them or they won't be added at all? Do we have any info about those missiles at all? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killkenny1 Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 59 minutes ago, geshabuL_ said: Additional question, is there a confirmation about the Super 530s, I suppose only the M variant will be able to carry them or they won't be added at all? Do we have any info about those missiles at all? "After the Early Access release of the Mirage F1, the immediate focus of the Aerges Engineering team will be on completing the remaining Mirage F1 CE work-in-progress systems. In particular, several radar scan modes, the radio navigation modes of the autopilot, and the implementation of the S530F ‘Supermatra’ missile." https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/news/2022-07-08/ 4 НЕТ ВОЙНЕ! Gib full-fi Su-27 or MiG-29 plz! AMD R7 3700X|32GB DDR4 RAM|Gigabyte RTX2070S Gaming OC|2TB NVMe SDD + 1TB SSD + 2TBB + 1TB HDD|Dell P3421W|Windows 10 Pro x64 TM Warthog|MFG Crosswind|Samsung Odyssey+|TrackIR 5 Modules: Mirage F1|Mi-24P|JF-17|F/A-18C|F-14A/B|F-5E|M-2000C|MiG-21bis|L-39|Yak-52|FC3|Supercarrier || Terrains: Persian Gulf|NTTR|Normandy|Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger1-1 Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 3 hours ago, WinterH said: CE: the first bird we're getting, mainly an interceptor with some unguided ground attack weapons too. Navigation through radio beacons. EE: As above, but in addition to that: aerial refueling probe, INS navigation system, option to use a better RWR BE: Mostly like CE afaik, but a two seater training bird. Guns are deleted. M: modernized in late-ish 90s and has a more modern HUD and MFDs. The EE is the All weather strike aircraft, while the CE is an Interceptor with strike capability. Also guided weapons 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterH Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 56 minutes ago, Badger1-1 said: The EE is the All weather strike aircraft, while the CE is an Interceptor with strike capability. Also guided weapons When we look at the Spanish variants, AFAIK they have the same air to air weapons, and same unguided air to ground weapons. Differences are the refueling probe and an INS NAV system as I've said above. AFAIK it is only a NAV system and not really a NAV/ATTACK one, so I wouldn't really call it an all weather striker if that is the case. Looks like all versions will get laser guided bombs, but all will need them to be lased externally including the M. 2 Wishlist: F-4E Block 53 +, MiG-27K, Su-17M3 or M4, AH-1F or W circa 80s or early 90s, J35 Draken, Kfir C7, Mirage III/V DCS-Dismounts Script Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmbaviator Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 is that the F1 M cockpit ? null 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grift-06 Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, cmbaviator said: is that the F1 M cockpit ? null Correct me if I'm wrong but it might be the Moroccan Mirage F1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snacko 2-1 Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 24 minutes ago, cmbaviator said: is that the F1 M cockpit ? null That would be an F1-MF2000 for the Moroccan Air Force. Even more modern than the Spanish F1M. Though I wish we were getting it. F1M only has a single MFD, here are some pics from Aerges 14 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get_Lo Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 On 7/10/2022 at 5:15 AM, Badger1-1 said: The EE is the All weather strike aircraft, while the CE is an Interceptor with strike capability. Also guided weapons Not the EE, the Es for other countries are but not for Spain, it was used as a fighter only and 100% of its training missions were air to air, while 40% of the CE's training missions were air to ground and 60% air to air. None of the Spanish F1's had ground attack as anything more than a secondary role until the F1M. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killkenny1 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 On 7/10/2022 at 4:08 PM, Snacko 2-1 said: That would be an F1-MF2000 for the Moroccan Air Force. Even more modern than the Spanish F1M. Though I wish we were getting it. F1M only has a single MFD, here are some pics from Aerges Personally this cockpit looks like a sweetspot - a good mix of old and new. НЕТ ВОЙНЕ! Gib full-fi Su-27 or MiG-29 plz! AMD R7 3700X|32GB DDR4 RAM|Gigabyte RTX2070S Gaming OC|2TB NVMe SDD + 1TB SSD + 2TBB + 1TB HDD|Dell P3421W|Windows 10 Pro x64 TM Warthog|MFG Crosswind|Samsung Odyssey+|TrackIR 5 Modules: Mirage F1|Mi-24P|JF-17|F/A-18C|F-14A/B|F-5E|M-2000C|MiG-21bis|L-39|Yak-52|FC3|Supercarrier || Terrains: Persian Gulf|NTTR|Normandy|Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromthedeep Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 15 hours ago, killkenny1 said: Personally this cockpit looks like a sweetspot Well, that's a mid 90s modification, so the variant itself will be fairly modern. Currently there aren't many true 90s era FF modules in DCS just the F-14B and the Viggen, so it will be difficult to create a realistic scenario for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterH Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 For me personally the ideal cockpit will be the EE with a better and RWR and INS NAV, but no MFD and still the funky HUD. 1 Wishlist: F-4E Block 53 +, MiG-27K, Su-17M3 or M4, AH-1F or W circa 80s or early 90s, J35 Draken, Kfir C7, Mirage III/V DCS-Dismounts Script Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromthedeep Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 3 hours ago, WinterH said: and INS NAV I agree about the INS, those are always fun to operate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala13_ManOWar Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Not exactly mid 90s, overhauls started around 1997-8 or the like, last aircraft handed over was 2001. Last aircraft retired in 2013. Relatively modern, not that much though. 1 "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJOS Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 On 7/10/2022 at 4:30 PM, WinterH said: CE: the first bird we're getting, mainly an interceptor with some unguided ground attack weapons too. Navigation through radio beacons. EE: As above, but in addition to that: aerial refueling probe, INS navigation system, option to use a better RWR BE: Mostly like CE afaik, but a two seater training bird. Guns are deleted. M: modernized in late-ish 90s and has a more modern HUD and MFDs. South Africa also had the F1 AZ which was a ground attack variant with Fitted with lightweight EMD AIDA 2 ranging radar instead of Cyrano IV of other variants, with laser rangefinder under nose 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge55 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 (edited) On 8/3/2022 at 6:43 PM, LJOS said: South Africa also had the F1 AZ which was a ground attack variant with Fitted with lightweight EMD AIDA 2 ranging radar instead of Cyrano IV of other variants, with laser rangefinder under nose However, to be clear Aerges isn't doing the F1 AZ. Just the ones listed by WinterH Edited August 8, 2022 by Sarge55 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7 10700K OC 5.1GHZ / 500GB SSD & 1TB M:2 & 4TB HDD / MSI Gaming MB / GTX 1080 / 32GB RAM / Win 10 / TrackIR 4 Pro / CH Pedals / TM Warthog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
litzj Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 what would be the weapon loadout of mirage f1m? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremspropeller Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Do we know if the F1M can carry bombs on a twin-carrier, like the F1CR and CT? 4 So ein Feuerball, JUNGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnomechild Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 AFAIK the F1M won't really have any differences in loadout compared to the F1CE and EE. I don't know of any other bomb racks. But information on the F1M is kinda hard to come by 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger1-1 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 On 10/1/2022 at 2:44 AM, gnomechild said: AFAIK the F1M won't really have any differences in loadout compared to the F1CE and EE. I don't know of any other bomb racks. But information on the F1M is kinda hard to come by so you´re saying that you dont know, since its hard to get the infos to know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkk01 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Does anyone know / has Aerges posted on the expected order for the other variants? it would be easy to assume CE > EE > BE > M…. but has this been confirmed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterH Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 I don't have direct link, but I do remember Aerges saying a few times that their intended order is exactly that indeed, CE-EE-BE-M Wishlist: F-4E Block 53 +, MiG-27K, Su-17M3 or M4, AH-1F or W circa 80s or early 90s, J35 Draken, Kfir C7, Mirage III/V DCS-Dismounts Script Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Sights Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Sure would like to see another variant soon. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmidtfire Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 7 hours ago, Iron Sights said: Sure would like to see another variant soon. Im ready for the F1M 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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