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[CHK] Winwing Throttle from Stop to Idle


Colmillo

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I ask this query first in this forum because probably someone who flies the Thunder and has the winwing controls has already figured out how to solve it. If I don't have an answer, I'll try the winwing forum.
1. I have the Orion Throttle Base II controls and the Base2 Joystick (for F-16)
2. In the DCS configuration of the JF-17 "Throttle uncage:Stop to idle" the accelerator is configured to generate the command "RShift + F" that automatically detects the JOY_BTN31 (I have also tried manually with JOY_BTN30)

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3. The problem is that when I move the throttle from Stop to Idle, the throttle moves correctly but the Throttle Idle/Stop Caging Lever doesn't uncage.

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So I have to click on it to uncage or press RShift + F on the keyboard to make it do it.

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The throttle is supposed to send that command and it doesn't.
It is the same principle that the F-16 uses without problems, but in the JF-17 it does not.

I created a partial solution with Voiceattack by assigning the same RShift + F command to the throttle when I take it from Stop to Idle, but I think there must be something better to solve this problem.
If someone has this problem and has solved it, I will be attentive to try it.

Thank you


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  • uboats changed the title to [CHK] Winwing Throttle from Stop to Idle

i cannot reproduce with my WW F16 throttle

if not uncage, the cockpit throttle grip has no animation no matter how you move your throttle

it's better to record a video to show complete step to reproduce it

also, how did you bind your throttle axis?

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15 hours ago, uboats said:

i cannot reproduce with my WW F16 throttle

if not uncage, the cockpit throttle grip has no animation no matter how you move your throttle

it's better to record a video to show complete step to reproduce it

also, how did you bind your throttle axis?

Thanks for checking, but I don't know if I understood you correctly that the throttle doesn't move if it's not uncaged, and it does.
The problem is that if it is not uncage it is not possible to start the engine. (Reason why I realized the problem)
I include an image of the binding:

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Please see the description of the video where I indicate the steps executed and how the problem occurs:

00:05 Just RShift + F (Keyboard)

00:11 Repeated Rshift + F (Keyboard)

00:13 RCtrl + F (Keyboard)

00:15 Throttle moved from Stop to Idle (See the uncage stay caged)

00:21 Using mouse to uncage


Thank you


Edited by Colmillo

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Ok, I just understood the situation.
Indeed, the keybindig is not necessary, in fact I eliminated them (RShift + F and RCtrl + F eliminated), it is enough that it is associated with the accelerator action.
Then the throttle goes from Stop to Idle position and vice versa.
But the caging lever doesn't move, it stays in the cage.
In this condition, ignition is possible, a situation that on some occasion did not allow me to start the engine (I probably did not execute the procedures properly)
I thought the caging lever MUST be uncage for the Start process, as stated in the JF-17 manual (page 20), and the Chuck manual (page 86).

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So the position of the caging lever doesn't matter.

Thanks for your time

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