Approach Speed/AoA too high

[Get_Lo]

Any update on this? the F1 still doesnt meet its schedules in the manual and flying it under 250 knots feels like driving a boat with the anchor deployed. Hard to believe this thing was designed to have "low approach speeds" and a "High lift wing"
Maybe with the EE release we can get an update FM?

[Nealius]

On 12/28/2022 at 3:59 AM, Get_Lo said:

Any update on this? the F1 still doesnt meet its schedules in the manual and flying it under 250 knots feels like driving a boat with the anchor deployed. Hard to believe this thing was designed to have "low approach speeds" and a "High lift wing"
Maybe with the EE release we can get an update FM?

It looks like we're seeing progress, but slowly and independent of forum discussions. It mostly seems to be people throwing attitude around in response to any skeptical thinking applied to the FM, with the FM silently being tuned to address it just like the excessive adverse yaw issue. Best to avoid bringing it up for your own sanity/faith in humanity and wait for improvements to come when they come. I've given up on any kind of civil discourse here.

本帖最后于2023年1月22日，由Nealius编辑

[Iron Sights]

Fuel load can have a huge effect on on slow speed handling and cornering speed from what I’ve found. When you get below 50%, it seems happier.

[Thinder]

I'm still struggling with the Mirage F1 but I know something for sure: You need to keep RPM above 7000 and if AoA is a bit steep, better add power which is why it is recommended to keep the RPM above 7000 in order to increase engine response.

Now I keep the same AoA and fly the aircraft on the gas, I figured it makes things easier for me...

12 hours ago, Nealius said:

It looks like we're seeing progress, but slowly and independent of forum discussions. It mostly seems to be people throwing attitude around in response to any skeptical thinking applied to the FM, with the FM silently being tuned to address it just like the excessive adverse yaw issue. Best to avoid bringing it up for your own sanity/faith in humanity and wait for improvements to come when they come. I've given up on any kind of civil discourse here.

 

There is an issue with this module handling anyway, it will be corrected with the next update.

  

On 12/27/2022 at 6:59 PM, Get_Lo said:

Any update on this? the F1 still doesnt meet its schedules in the manual and flying it under 250 knots feels like driving a boat with the anchor deployed. Hard to believe this thing was designed to have "low approach speeds" and a "High lift wing"
Maybe with the EE release we can get an update FM?

Spot-on.

It was a vast improvement on the Mirage III/V series  and you can bate your X-Mass turkey that Dassault would never have released for service an aircraft with adverse yaw of this amplitude, knowing a few things bout the Mirage F1, I got suspicious as early as I realized what the module flight characteristics were.

In any aircraft using spoilers, there always have been a given amount of induce yaw but this is way too much, and it is much too unstable in yaw, I never read/heared anything about the F1 having this issue, I know it is more lively in rough athmospheric conditions than the III/V because of the slats but that's all about it.

本帖最后于2023年1月22日，由Thinder编辑