PSYKOnz Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 Hi there Today I started having a full ctd of DCs when ever I load a map, it seems to get to either routs or more commanly the terrain init navgraph then it freezes and crashes I've looked through the logs and can't seem to see anything glaring sticking out at me so I'm a bit lost, what part of the error log should I be looking at? Tomcat, Tomcat über allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverdevil Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, PSYKOnz said: Hi there Today I started having a full ctd of DCs when ever I load a map, it seems to get to either routs or more commanly the terrain init navgraph then it freezes and crashes I've looked through the logs and can't seem to see anything glaring sticking out at me so I'm a bit lost, what part of the error log should I be looking at? i suggest you post your latest dcs.log. also a trk of the incident if possible. 1 AKA_SilverDevil AKA Forums My YouTube “It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.” — Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSYKOnz Posted August 5, 2022 Author Share Posted August 5, 2022 (edited) DCS.log as requested, heres the last log cant do a trk as I cant get bast the loading screen haha Edited August 5, 2022 by PSYKOnz 1 Tomcat, Tomcat über allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSYKOnz Posted August 5, 2022 Author Share Posted August 5, 2022 I should add I have tried repairs and they either worked once and then went back to the issue or didn't change a thing Does not seem to matter what jet I'm in Does not matter how I launch either, it won't load into mission editor or mission or even instant action Dcs worked fine on Wednesday but is not now, I was making up a mission when all this stuff started I really dont understand what's happening Tomcat, Tomcat über allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 (edited) Hi. Since the crashing DLL is from Windows ("C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\VCRUNTIME140.dll"), you should have an explanatory error message in your Event Viewer. Open it and look into the Apps log at the time of your crash. Please attach a screenshot of this error in the Event viewer message. Edited August 5, 2022 by Flappie 1 Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSYKOnz Posted August 5, 2022 Author Share Posted August 5, 2022 Will do, In the meantime I did a full reinstall of DCS and that seems to have fixed it the issue, might have been a reinstall of VC runtime as part of the install that fixed it maybe? Ill post up a screen shot of event viewer shortly Tomcat, Tomcat über allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSYKOnz Posted August 5, 2022 Author Share Posted August 5, 2022 there are a few errors but here's the one related to VCRuntime Faulting application name: DCS.exe, version: 2.7.16.28157, time stamp: 0x62e3d3bf Faulting module name: VCRUNTIME140.dll, version: 14.28.29913.0, time stamp: 0x6041a7e8 Exception code: 0xc0000005 Fault offset: 0x0000000000001989 Faulting process id: 0x36b8 Faulting application start time: 0x01d8a86ef26f54bc Faulting application path: E:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\DCS.exe Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\VCRUNTIME140.dll Report Id: 4587e17a-baf1-41f5-9239-8bc4dcbed8c6 Faulting package full name: Faulting package-relative application ID: Fault bucket 1640216166324695637, type 4 Event Name: APPCRASH Response: Not available Cab Id: 0 Problem signature: P1: DCS.exe P2: 2.7.16.28157 P3: 62e3d3bf P4: VCRUNTIME140.dll P5: 14.28.29913.0 P6: 6041a7e8 P7: c0000005 P8: 0000000000001989 P9: P10: i also get these... Faulting application name: DCS.exe, version: 2.7.16.28157, time stamp: 0x62e3d3bf Faulting module name: ntdll.dll, version: 10.0.22000.832, time stamp: 0x3907dfbc Exception code: 0xc0000374 Fault offset: 0x000000000010c9a9 Faulting process id: 0x63c4 Faulting application start time: 0x01d8a86f6fcde255 Faulting application path: E:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\DCS.exe Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll Report Id: d24ab595-5b1e-4ec2-ac1a-c83ecbdf3502 Faulting package full name: Faulting package-relative application ID: Faulting application name: DCS.exe, version: 2.7.16.28157, time stamp: 0x62e3d3bf Faulting module name: Inter.dll, version: 2.7.16.28157, time stamp: 0x62d186f9 Exception code: 0xc0000005 Fault offset: 0x00000000000051d0 Faulting process id: 0x147c Faulting application start time: 0x01d8a8703b7e1b3a Faulting application path: E:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\DCS.exe Faulting module path: E:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\Inter.dll Report Id: 1de0b934-224d-4214-b276-54b54aa21553 Faulting package full name: Faulting package-relative application ID: Tomcat, Tomcat über allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSYKOnz Posted August 5, 2022 Author Share Posted August 5, 2022 I wonder if the last windows 11 update casued the issues? Since posting the event viewer stuff I've done a sfc scan and it found errors and fixed them I'm a bit confused as to what's happened to cause the issues, seems all very strange Hoping someone here can shed some light on it 2 Tomcat, Tomcat über allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 Thanks for your feedback. It may be possible that some DCS files were corrupted as well (bad sectors, I guess?), leading to the crashes you saw. I doubt a W11 update could compromise DCS files directly. If CTDs come back, please report here. Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverdevil Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 37 minutes ago, PSYKOnz said: I wonder if the last windows 11 update casued the issues? Since posting the event viewer stuff I've done a sfc scan and it found errors and fixed them I'm a bit confused as to what's happened to cause the issues, seems all very strange Hoping someone here can shed some light on it visual c++ can become corrupted too most definitely. we started using a new router and vpn clients recently and one machine needed to have VC repaired. 1 AKA_SilverDevil AKA Forums My YouTube “It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.” — Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSYKOnz Posted August 5, 2022 Author Share Posted August 5, 2022 Will do! For anyone looking with a similar issue, here's a time line and steps I took after DCS started up and worked fine this morning and worked great for about an hour, while I was building a mission, then the crashes started, they started when I went to fly the mission I was building on the Persian gulf map, it crashed once then was fine for about 10 mins, then crashed again, several crashes and full repairs later it just stopped functioning at all, I assumed something in the editor or mission file has messed it up, crashes every way of starting a mission, even instant action missions on different maps with different jets Steps I took after I posted the OP here, the idea was to try everything untill there was feedback here to see if I could crack it.. I sent every DCS crash report through the gui Tried 3 other games, no issues Deleted files to do with terrains and repaired, no luck Ran memtest86, pass Ran dxdiag, no issues Virus scan, nothing Removed GPU Over Clock, no change Backed up DCS files and then completely removed all traces of DCS Reinstalled DCS, this seemed to have fixed the issue Rebuilt DCS, still works Ran the Sfc/scan now, errors found and fixed So far DCS is still working, looks like the reinstall was the solution to the problem, takes bloody ages tho haha Hell of a way to spend a day Thanks to everyone who helped out with it too! 4 minutes ago, silverdevil said: visual c++ can become corrupted too most definitely. we started using a new router and vpn clients recently and one machine needed to have VC repaired. I wonder what, why or how these things just corrupt, there must be something doing it surly? 2 Tomcat, Tomcat über allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 I had corrupted terrain files some weeks ago. The Event Viewer told me which file was causing the initial crash. I deleted it then repaired DCS, then another file from the same folder was causing the same issue. I deleted the whole terrain, repaired and it passed. No idea how I got these corrupted files in the first place. Aging SSD maybe? 1 Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSYKOnz Posted August 5, 2022 Author Share Posted August 5, 2022 Yea that's what I'm finding so strange, just corrupted out of nowhere, I tried the same approach but with less wisdoms, next time I'll check the event viewer for sure, In my case DCS is on a 3 month old NVME drive, which I checked and is all In perfect health, very strange indeed Best news is that I learned something useful today, using the event viewer! Thank you for sharing your wisdom! Next trick will be to try figure out what corrupted it 2 Tomcat, Tomcat über allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverdevil Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 10 hours ago, PSYKOnz said: I wonder what, why or how these things just corrupt, there must be something doing it surly? there are shared files between each version of C++. and not all programs use the same version. so you may have several different versions installed. perhaps another version was installed / updated and it changed a file that DCS version needed. it is really difficult to test with every version. so devs miss it. during my time in IT since 1989 had times where i helped fix this sort of thing. here is what i have. you can look at the date installed compared to dcs folder date. null 1 AKA_SilverDevil AKA Forums My YouTube “It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.” — Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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