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  1. 1. What kind of aircraft do you wan't to see next?

    • Fixed wing attacker (A-10, Su-25..)
      51
    • Fixed wing fighter (Su-27, F-16...)
      174
    • Fixed wing utility/transporter (AC-130, An-70...)
      11
    • Rotary wing attacker (Longbow, Mi-28, Appache...)
      97
    • Rotary wing utility/CSAR/transporter (Mi-24, KA-60, UH-60, Bell 412...)
      43
    • None of the above (specify)
      10


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i really want the MI-24 Hind, especially if we can carry troops, Imagen a mission with surrounded friendlies, fly in do some ground attack, land at the LZ under fire, pick up troops, a little more mud moving, than get your ass home!

 

also something like an OV-10 could be nice.


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Theres a plane type not included in the voting options: multirole

 

That would be my vote

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Totally non-sense, but my wishes are (ignoring anyone else's opinion :music_whistling:):

 

Fighter, priority to multirole, if possible non-American*.

 

European A/C would be a dream.

 

You know, making your fighter jet into a simulation can really raise the bar in terms of popularity, and if you're really interested in exporting it, it's the perfect thing to do :music_whistling:. Rafale and Gripen anyone :D? I'd be realized a JAS-39A, as all operational Gripens either are or are being upgraded to JAS-39C. Plus, the Gripen NG is already going, so they wouldn't give away much stuff if a DCS based on A version is made. Rafale is a different story. But still, don't you guys want to export it, Dassault? Making a immensely popular simulator based on your aircraft can really help on this matter, as it will bring the Rafale closer to the people.

 

EMBRAER could also win some popularity if some of their aircraft made it into a study simulator. AMX (which would also benefit Italy) or EMB-314 (as it's been widely exported and has very modern systems) would be the dream of any attack pilot. Talking about ground attack, a Tornado would do wonders as well.

 

But now back to fighters - European, multi-role, fighters. A fine choice would be a plane from the Mirage family. Mirage 2000C (as they're going to be modernized to 2000-5 standards or replaced by the Rafale), or maybe a Mirage F1 (still operational with France, largely operational in Spain), could fit either fighter-boys and ground-attack fans. European (yes, it's still Europe if you don't know), multi-role and widely popular? We can't avoid it - MiG-29 is a constant when it comes to wish-lists. And it's also VERY maneuverable and operational in many Air Forces around the globe. Not fully multi-role, but still worth whining for, there comes another constant - Su-27, baby! The 16-ton giant, with 10 hard-points, is something that, I guess, we'd all love. Face it, who wouldn't like to fly such monster?

 

And back to ground attack again, what about a Jaguar? It's also operational in a pretty large number, not really new, is fast and can bring hell if you're in the ground. Su-25 would also be fantastic, but there are two things that made me keep it out of my wish-list: 1. We already have it modeled to a quite good level in Flaming Cliffs; 2. Poor EtherealN would have to perform a sex change operation and would offer his hand in marriage to anyone:megalol:

 

Well, I think I've said enough BS, but that's what I want.

 

*Only exception is the F-5E(EM is a nice dream). Give me a Tiger and I'll never ask for anything in DCS again :P!!

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I placed my vote for Fixed-Wing attack. I've loved the Su-25 ever since I built plastic models of it as a kid. But aside from the hog and frog, I'd also love the Pucara - definitely one of the most beautiful aircraft ever made.

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I chose "Fixed wind utility/transport" just to shake it up a bit. Yeah, fighting is cool, but sometimes it's fun to relax and leave the fighting to your escorts.

 

I can just imagine making low-level air drops, firing a $h*t load of flares, and trying out the "Operation Credible Sport" version of the C-130 :thumbup:

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Well, the A-10C will suffice for me especially if the AH-64 is possibly next. I have to admit I'm pretty happy with the way things are going. Although, I would have loved a high fidelity Su-25T (FC 2.0 will do).

 

I certainly support some form of "fixed wing fighter" next if only to provide a CAP for ground operations. I'll leave it up to ED to decide which one, although the Eurofighter sounds good.

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How about a VSTOL like F-35 if we look near future, or Harrier if we look at existing.

 

Though overall, the F-16 would be my choice now, given its "today's world" multi-role, country, general purpose, plus I know it fairly well from Falcon4/5.

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How about a VSTOL like F-35 if we look near future, or Harrier if we look at existing.

 

You realize that for there to be a DCS:F35 there has to be enough declassified material to make a faithful simulation not only of it's aerodynamics, but also it's avionics, weapon systems, datalinks and other hydraulic systems. Good luck. ;)

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The DCS: A10-C Warthog is highly anticipated in my circles of online flyers, and the mythical DCS: AH64 Apache would be a dream come true, especially 2 seater multiplayer DCS: AH64. Brilliant.

 

But my 'holy grail' of flight sim nirvana would be a DCS: F-14D Tomcat (2 seater!!) and based almost exclusively on carriers.

 

Those puppies could do JDAM runs, Close air support with the cannon (watch Speed and Angels), CAP missions, Topgun school to learn the sim's dogfighting capabilities. The list is endless.

 

To have this with DCS high fidilty simming glory...

 

It is literately to good to be true.

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Ground attack is my preference, the A-10C is a dream for me and the potential for the AH-64A is exciting. Although I'd love a MI-24 HIND as well ;). Multirole fighters would be ideal for a greater gameplay dynamic.

 

I would be happy with anything though, rotor/fixed/attack/fighter/transport whatever.

 

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If the Rotary wing utility/CSAR/transporter (Mi-24, KA-60, UH-60, Bell 412...) is easier to get technical information for that would be nice to have in the same battlefield as the A-10C and Ka-50 to choose from. Is it difficult to get technical (or legal) information on the AH64 Apache? Haven’t that been used in other sim's before?

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How do the Dev's pick the next AC in the DCS series anyway? Is it based on what the community want's, what data is available or what the Dev's wish to model?

 

I'm no wizard, but isn't it because of what the 'military' side of TFC do in regards to contracts? They then have all that info and then (if they get the green light for the honcho's they just built it for), ED & TFC will start making a 'domestic' sim. It's what happened with A10C

 

I have no idea, but thats the vibe. :music_whistling:

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You realize that for there to be a DCS:F35 there has to be enough declassified material to make a faithful simulation not only of it's aerodynamics, but also it's avionics, weapon systems, datalinks and other hydraulic systems. Good luck

 

I wonder... since the concept for the F-35 is a multi-national, cost effective next generation fighter. Similar to the F-16 MLU, or other current generation international fighters, much of the "classified" aspects may indeed be unclassified. I have not researched into what is available on the aircraft, but from some quick google searches, it looks like there may be some detail out there already. Additionally, with production rollout slated to begin this year, perhaps more specifics will become available over the coming years....

 

Though likely the chemistry of the stealth paint coating will remain classified for a while. : )

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I'm no wizard, but isn't it because of what the 'military' side of TFC do in regards to contracts? They then have all that info and then (if they get the green light for the honcho's they just built it for), ED & TFC will start making a 'domestic' sim. It's what happened with A10C

 

I have no idea, but thats the vibe. :music_whistling:

 

That's plausible however I don't like the "If we build it they will come approach". The vibe from the community is that a fixed wing fighter is wanted (even though I digress) so hopefully a fixed wing fighter is in the pipeline after A-10C.

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WindWeapon, a plane doesn't get less classified because multiple nations are involved in the development. It just means that the people who hold the classified information are spread over more than one country.

 

Similarly, there are still many points about the F16 that are classified. I'd expect that this would (at a minimum) include specific parts about the radar, RWR, as well as ECM and other pods in use. To get a completely declassified F16 (so to speak - an "opensourced" one :P ) you'd have to go for older blocks of it - basically systems that are no longer in use or considered general enough that there is no hazard in having them public knowledge.

 

The F35 has a new datalink, the mentioned stealth systems and many other details. They're not going to drop the secrecy of those things just because it'll be entering service - that's when the secrecy actually becomes important! To keep something secret while developing it and then show it to the world when you start actually using it would, for lack of a better word, be stupid.

 

Google is not a source for this. To base a simulation off of it that wants to claim the level of realism DCS aspires to you can't go by what some website says - you have to have it confirmed to be accurate.

 

Finally, even IF they get hold of classified information (f.ex through leaked or cracked documents), they still cannot make a simulator based on it. I don't think Wags, as an american citizen, wants to face trial for treason after the DoD hears about international distribution of state secrets... ;)

 

The way to get it into DCS is to get detailed data, and permission to use said data. There are two ways to do this - either have a good connection to the producer of the aircraft (like Kamov) and get permission to develop the product that way, using real data, or get a military contract (for example with the US ANG for the A10C) and get permission to use that data in a commercial product as well.

 

But until someone persuades the us DoD that they should put one of their most modern, top secret, weapon systems into a commercial product I strongly doubt we'll see DCS:F35 anytime soon.


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Mmm... Many on that list that I'd love to see. Doing gulf war style strikes on airbases with the Tornado would be awesome. :)

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