Roll tendencies- question

[BrianK86]

Hello everyone,

I was wondering why the harrier have the tendencies to roll uncontrollably at ridiculously fast rates when i push the stick (negative G) and roll at the same time? 

It gets faster and harder to control until i roll to the opposite side and pull the stick.

Is that something related to the flight module or the actual harrier flight characteristics?

[deephack]

I don't know for sure but would assume that this is correct and down to the anhedral wing slope. This reduces roll stability and an aircrafts natural tendancy to stabilise in roll. Couple with the stick push is probably making it worse.

[exhausted]

we are talking like 720 degree snap rolls though... I highly doubt this is realistic. 

 

If you want to see what we mean, then try a snap roll to evade a missile when you have a few bombs under the wings

[Mars Exulte]

2 hours ago, exhausted said:

we are talking like 720 degree snap rolls though... I highly doubt this is realistic. 

 

If you want to see what we mean, then try a snap roll to evade a missile when you have a few bombs under the wings

Strictly speaking, most modern fighters have a maximum roll rate up in that range. Now, whether they'll still do it with bombs, I don't know, but it's why they all have limitations on doing endless barrel rolls at high rate. Most of them have something like a prohibition against rolling more than a single full revolution, presumably due to structural or aerodynamic stability reasons.

[exhausted]

Ha, no what I mean is if you jink with bombs, you go into a violent snap roll with no explanation from physics as we know it.

[Spurts]

have you dropped any bombs?  The Harrier is very prone to asymmetrical loadouts causing issues.

[exhausted]

The question is whether a Harrier should snap roll into 10 rotations at 700 degrees per second, with no energy lost in the rotations.

[Spurts]

okay, missed that.  No, glitch in the code?

[Spirale]

I feel it is impossible to stop the roll input like in this video IRL. This one shows a clear roll input and a clear stop. In our Harrier it feels that you can do a clear roll input but be unable to stop this roll with such a clear movement...It is even worse with a 720 roll...

[Kaktus]

yup, i'm trial-ing the harrier to see if its worth a buy especially with discount today, but the roll problem is insane, no controllability if you roll 90 degrees and try to accurately stop, i doubt its joystic settings and more likely its the simulated model that is such. 

 

i am a bit dissapointed this module is the one without the radar in it, if we would have the radar version with amraams, wow.. but still fun module i see why i would enjoy it but i feel like it could be more?