investigating Game crashing when enemy missile hits me

[Hiten Bongz]

I have been having issues with my game crashing when I get struck by an enemy missile. It even crashes at the exact same spot when I watch the track file replay (see screenshot, where I watched missile hit me and game instantly crashed). This has been happening with the JF-17 in multiplayer.

 

 

Not every missile that hits me makes the game crash. In this flyout, I have already died once to a missile and respawned. It was the second death from a missile where I crashed.

I had this crash bug here and there in 2.7, but it seems to be happening A LOT more in 2.8...and it makes playing online incredibly frustrating. I don't know if this is a JF-17 bug, a core DCS bug, or even a bug due to a different module/weapon...but it never used to happen and it's gotten progressively worse, and now it happens frequently.

Hoping I can get some help here. I also posted in the JF-17 bug forum:

dcs.log

Edited October 31, 2022 by Hiten Bongz

[Flappie]

Hi. Can you please try to reproduce your crash in a short SP track?

[Hiten Bongz]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1o9MM7utG_W0GEYU5kd7qPSXm06q6S3es/view?usp=share_link

 

Since it's multiplayer I can't exactly force it to be super short, but it's only like 20 or 30 minutes tops. Causes DCS to crash for me at the end when I watch it too. It's the second shoot down where the game crashes. There's a bit of a delay at the beginning before I take off (badly ) because I'm changing a few controls around.

 

Edit: I see you asked for SP, if you could point me to a custom mission I could use to try to quickly reproduce it, I could try. But I don't even know which aircraft or missile etc (if it even matters) is causing me to crash out in the first place...I don't have TacView to watch the track file replay

Edited October 31, 2022 by Hiten Bongz

[Flappie]

Hi @Hiten Bongz. There as a few crash fixes in the latest OB update. Are you still experiencing these crashes?

[hx5791]

The latest updated version of OB still has this problem for me and our players.

[Hiten Bongz]

Still crashing. Here's the latest log with a crash when I got hit by a missile. I was trying to evade an AIM-120 and dumping chaff & flares, if that makes any difference at all.

 

2022-11-06 05:51:13.228 INFO    Deka: JF-17 (Main): Tgt Lock Dist: 12000
2022-11-06 05:51:13.228 INFO    Deka: JF-17 (Main): AAM Scheme API
2022-11-06 05:51:32.486 INFO    ASYNCNET (Main): Current ping: 66.4ms
2022-11-06 05:51:32.488 INFO    Deka: JF-17 (Main): Tgt Lock Dist: 12000
2022-11-06 05:51:32.488 INFO    Deka: JF-17 (Main): AAM Scheme API
2022-11-06 05:51:41.334 INFO    Deka: JF-17 (Main): S2_Press for AA INTC non-STT: 1 1 -> 2
2022-11-06 05:51:54.600 ERROR   ED_SOUND (Main): invalid source_params(woLA-17658149:aircrafts/engines/rearclosehighpower): gain
2022-11-06 05:51:58.874 ERROR   ED_SOUND (Main): invalid source_params(woLA-17658149:aircrafts/engines/afterburnerrearclose): gain
2022-11-06 05:51:58.874 ERROR   ED_SOUND (Main): invalid source_params(woLA-17658149:aircrafts/engines/heavy_rear_afterburner_crackle): gain
2022-11-06 05:51:58.874 ERROR   ED_SOUND (Main): invalid source_params(woLA-17658149:aircrafts/engines/afterburnerrearclose): gain
2022-11-06 05:52:02.501 INFO    ASYNCNET (Main): Current ping: 67.5ms
2022-11-06 05:52:04.138 INFO    Deka: JF-17 (Main): Tgt Lock Dist: 12000
2022-11-06 05:52:04.138 INFO    Deka: JF-17 (Main): AAM Scheme API
2022-11-06 05:52:22.980 INFO    EDCORE (Main): signal caught: 'Abnormal termination'
2022-11-06 05:52:22.981 INFO    EDCORE (Main): try to write dump information
2022-11-06 05:52:22.982 INFO    EDCORE (Main): # -------------- 20221106-055223 --------------
2022-11-06 05:52:22.982 INFO    EDCORE (Main): DCS/2.8.0.32235 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.19044)
2022-11-06 05:52:22.983 INFO    EDCORE (Main): C:\Windows\System32\KERNELBASE.dll
2022-11-06 05:52:22.983 INFO    EDCORE (Main): # 00000000 STATUS_SUCCESS at 3F2ECD29 00:00000000
2022-11-06 05:52:22.985 INFO    EDCORE (Main): SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.;E:\Steam\steamapps\common\DCSWorld;E:\Steam\steamapps\common\DCSWorld\bin;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\system32;SRV*C:\websymbols*https://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;', symOptions: 528, UserName: 'Hiten'
2022-11-06 05:52:22.985 INFO    EDCORE (Main): OS-Version: 10.0.19044 () 0x100-0x1
2022-11-06 05:52:23.314 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000002CD29 (KERNELBASE): RaiseException + 0x69
2022-11-06 05:52:23.315 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000006876 (edCore): ed::core::InitVFS::~InitVFS + 0x876
2022-11-06 05:52:23.315 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000071881 (ucrtbase): raise + 0x1E1
2022-11-06 05:52:23.316 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000072851 (ucrtbase): abort + 0x31
2022-11-06 05:52:23.316 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000006E4A (VCRUNTIME140): _purecall + 0x1A
2022-11-06 05:52:23.316 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000020142A (WeaponBlocks): wRadarSensorBase::calcTargetSignal + 0x29A
2022-11-06 05:52:23.316 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000001FED30 (WeaponBlocks): wSN_ARA::simulate + 0x210
2022-11-06 05:52:23.316 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000001BB75 (blocksim): wSimulationSystem::simulate + 0x1D5
2022-11-06 05:52:23.316 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000624FD (WeaponsBase): wAmmunition::simulate + 0x13D
2022-11-06 05:52:23.317 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000136C0C (Weapons): wAmmunitionDecoy::spawnSnare + 0x7DC
2022-11-06 05:52:23.317 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000013E1D8 (Weapons): wAmmunitionSelfHoming::simulate + 0x158
2022-11-06 05:52:23.317 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000005F28A (WeaponsBase): wAmmunition::Class + 0x9A
2022-11-06 05:52:23.317 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000039E5 (World): wSimTrace::CommandsTraceDiscreteIsOn + 0x4B5
2022-11-06 05:52:23.317 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000003EFD (World): wSimCalendar::DoActionsUntil + 0x1FD
2022-11-06 05:52:23.317 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000080CD91 (DCS): SW + 0x3CD891
2022-11-06 05:52:23.317 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000080CAEE (DCS): SW + 0x3CD5EE
2022-11-06 05:52:23.317 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000082D429 (DCS): SW + 0x3EDF29
2022-11-06 05:52:23.317 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007ECB34 (DCS): SW + 0x3AD634
2022-11-06 05:52:23.317 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007EDA04 (DCS): SW + 0x3AE504
2022-11-06 05:52:23.317 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000022791B2 (DCS): AmdPowerXpressRequestHighPerformance + 0xF521AE
2022-11-06 05:52:23.317 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000BDA932 (DCS): SW + 0x79B432
2022-11-06 05:52:23.317 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000017034 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x14
2022-11-06 05:52:23.317 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000526A1 (ntdll): RtlUserThreadStart + 0x21
2022-11-06 05:52:24.846 INFO    EDCORE (Main): Minidump created.

 

dcs.log

Edited November 6, 2022 by Hiten Bongz

[Flappie]

Please try this:

1. Uninstall JF-17 module
2. Reinstall JF-17 module

 

[Hiten Bongz]

I uninstalled and reinstalled the JF-17 module and the crashes still occur.

 

Here's the latest crash from tonight, looks like the same suspicious lines in the log file as always...track file attached as well. It is fairly short.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1S0B_lKRKP3oDULoKsw6i5zbVO4qp7YKC/view?usp=share_link

 

In this one I was again trying to evade an AIM-120, it was fired by an F-16, and I was dumping chaff with nose towards the ground. The F-16 died by my own missile (SD-10) before his hit me.

 

2022-11-09 11:18:48.241 INFO    ASYNCNET (Main): Current ping: 64.2ms
2022-11-09 11:19:18.252 INFO    ASYNCNET (Main): Current ping: 65.1ms
2022-11-09 11:19:48.264 INFO    ASYNCNET (Main): Current ping: 62.0ms
2022-11-09 11:20:18.274 INFO    ASYNCNET (Main): Current ping: 62.7ms
2022-11-09 11:20:48.279 INFO    ASYNCNET (Main): Current ping: 63.7ms
2022-11-09 11:21:07.372 ERROR   APP (Main): Error: Unit [F-15C]: Corrupt damage model.
2022-11-09 11:21:18.287 INFO    ASYNCNET (Main): Current ping: 65.6ms
2022-11-09 11:21:48.298 INFO    ASYNCNET (Main): Current ping: 64.1ms
2022-11-09 11:22:18.311 INFO    ASYNCNET (Main): Current ping: 63.7ms
2022-11-09 11:22:48.324 INFO    ASYNCNET (Main): Current ping: 62.0ms
2022-11-09 11:22:59.158 INFO    Deka: JF-17 (Main): Tgt Lock Dist: 12000
2022-11-09 11:22:59.158 INFO    Deka: JF-17 (Main): AAM Scheme API
2022-11-09 11:23:18.326 INFO    ASYNCNET (Main): Current ping: 62.6ms
2022-11-09 11:23:43.430 INFO    EDCORE (Main): signal caught: 'Abnormal termination'
2022-11-09 11:23:43.430 INFO    EDCORE (Main): try to write dump information
2022-11-09 11:23:43.431 INFO    EDCORE (Main): # -------------- 20221109-112344 --------------
2022-11-09 11:23:43.432 INFO    EDCORE (Main): DCS/2.8.0.32235 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.19044)
2022-11-09 11:23:43.432 INFO    EDCORE (Main): C:\Windows\System32\KERNELBASE.dll
2022-11-09 11:23:43.433 INFO    EDCORE (Main): # 00000000 STATUS_SUCCESS at 1DEECD29 00:00000000
2022-11-09 11:23:43.434 INFO    EDCORE (Main): SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.;E:\Steam\steamapps\common\DCSWorld;E:\Steam\steamapps\common\DCSWorld\bin;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\system32;SRV*C:\websymbols*https://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;', symOptions: 528, UserName: 'Hiten'
2022-11-09 11:23:43.434 INFO    EDCORE (Main): OS-Version: 10.0.19044 () 0x100-0x1
2022-11-09 11:23:43.736 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000002CD29 (KERNELBASE): RaiseException + 0x69
2022-11-09 11:23:43.737 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000006876 (edCore): ed::core::InitVFS::~InitVFS + 0x876
2022-11-09 11:23:43.737 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000071881 (ucrtbase): raise + 0x1E1
2022-11-09 11:23:43.738 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000072851 (ucrtbase): abort + 0x31
2022-11-09 11:23:43.738 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000006E4A (VCRUNTIME140): _purecall + 0x1A
2022-11-09 11:23:43.738 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000020142A (WeaponBlocks): wRadarSensorBase::calcTargetSignal + 0x29A
2022-11-09 11:23:43.738 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000001FED30 (WeaponBlocks): wSN_ARA::simulate + 0x210
2022-11-09 11:23:43.738 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000001BB75 (blocksim): wSimulationSystem::simulate + 0x1D5
2022-11-09 11:23:43.738 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000624FD (WeaponsBase): wAmmunition::simulate + 0x13D
2022-11-09 11:23:43.738 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000136C0C (Weapons): wAmmunitionDecoy::spawnSnare + 0x7DC
2022-11-09 11:23:43.738 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000013E1D8 (Weapons): wAmmunitionSelfHoming::simulate + 0x158
2022-11-09 11:23:43.738 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000005F28A (WeaponsBase): wAmmunition::Class + 0x9A
2022-11-09 11:23:43.738 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000039E5 (World): wSimTrace::CommandsTraceDiscreteIsOn + 0x4B5
2022-11-09 11:23:43.739 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000003EFD (World): wSimCalendar::DoActionsUntil + 0x1FD
2022-11-09 11:23:43.739 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000080CD91 (DCS): SW + 0x3CD891
2022-11-09 11:23:43.739 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000080CAEE (DCS): SW + 0x3CD5EE
2022-11-09 11:23:43.739 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000082D429 (DCS): SW + 0x3EDF29
2022-11-09 11:23:43.739 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007ECB34 (DCS): SW + 0x3AD634
2022-11-09 11:23:43.739 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007EDA04 (DCS): SW + 0x3AE504
2022-11-09 11:23:43.739 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000022791B2 (DCS): AmdPowerXpressRequestHighPerformance + 0xF521AE
2022-11-09 11:23:43.739 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000BDA932 (DCS): SW + 0x79B432
2022-11-09 11:23:43.739 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000017034 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x14
2022-11-09 11:23:43.739 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000526A1 (ntdll): RtlUserThreadStart + 0x21
2022-11-09 11:23:43.975 INFO    EDCORE (Main): Minidump created.

dcs.log

Edited November 9, 2022 by Hiten Bongz

[uboats]

Neither ED nor us can reproduce it

[Flappie]

@Hiten Bongz Our issue here is that we're missing a track, track which we cannot have since the sim cannot record a track when a DCS crash happens.

But there might be a solution:

1. Try to reproduce the conditions of the crash in a small, short mission. Do exactly the same things that you do to get the crash.
2. Once the enemy aircraft shoots a missile at you, start avoiding and releasing chaffs like you always do.
3. Then exit the mission seconds before the enemy missile hits you, and click Save Track.
4. Replay track, wait for the missile to be close (=end of the track is nearing), press Escape, and click "Take control". Wait for the missile to hit you. If DCS crashes, that means you have produced a usable track. Attach it here and we'll try to reproduce the CTD.

Edited November 10, 2022 by Flappie

[Hiten Bongz]

I'm not understanding. I have already uploaded a short track file to my google drive and provided the link. How are you "missing a track?" I can watch this track file in replay on my PC, are you not able to?

 

Maybe there is a language barrier here but I don't understand what the issue is with the track I provided.

 

8 hours ago, uboats said:

Neither ED nor us can reproduce it

 

Does your testing include getting hit by missiles (especially AIM-120) on a populated multiplayer server? If you are trying this offline, in custom mission etc., then all bets are off because testing environment isn't the same. If that is the case then I urge you to try it an online server...Growling Sidewinder is where I usually play.

Edited November 11, 2022 by Hiten Bongz

[uboats]

we tried in MP, and getting hit when guiding sd10, cannot reproduce crash

[Hiten Bongz]

I made a small custom mission where I'm going head-on versus an AI F-16 with AIM-120 and I let him shoot at me. I try to evade like usual, and I cannot make it crash with this mission.

 

But on GS server I get the crash quite often at least 25% of the time I get hit, maybe as much as 50%.

 

@uboats @Flappie what happens when you watch my track file? Because even the track replay crashes DCS at the end when I get hit by the AIM-120 for me. Same for you?

 

Did either of you test on the GS server? There's been others that have reported this bug in JF-17 forum, and I know they fly on GS too. Possible server problem?

Edited November 11, 2022 by Hiten Bongz

[Flappie]

5 hours ago, Hiten Bongz said:

I'm not understanding. I have already uploaded a short track file to my google drive and provided the link. How are you "missing a track?"

My mistake, I'll try it right away.

EDIT: Unfortunately, your track is not replaying well. The take off ends in the grass...

I'll edit the mission so you start in the air, facing the enemy.

Edited November 11, 2022 by Flappie

[Flappie]

Here's the edited mission file: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PXSLXEm0MtKEkkMs0m5_4Kaav5n9ZxiL/view?usp=sharing

Please run it from the mission editor, and jump into the red JF-17 slot (there's only one). You'll be facing an AI F-16. See if you can reproduce the crash.

[Hiten Bongz]

8 hours ago, Flappie said:

 

EDIT: Unfortunately, your track is not replaying well. The take off ends in the grass...

 

 

This track? https://drive.google.com/file/d/1S0B_lKRKP3oDULoKsw6i5zbVO4qp7YKC/view?usp=share_link

It's 30mb, much shorter than the first one I linked in this thread.

 

If so that is very strange, I can replay it just fine and it plays back as normal...lol

 

I will try your edited mission file, but it sounds just like the one I created in the mission editor last night

 

 

Edited November 11, 2022 by Hiten Bongz

[Flappie]

1 minute ago, Hiten Bongz said:

If so that is very strange, I can replay it just fine and it plays back as normal...lol

Maybe not so strange. I use a different build.

[Hiten Bongz]

7 hours ago, Flappie said:

Maybe not so strange. I use a different build.

 

Are you able to test using the current OB build? I gave that 30mb track file (from Nov. 9 I posted here) to a server admin from Growling Sidewinder, and he can view it okay. Also crashes his DCS when the missile hits...

 

Edited November 12, 2022 by Hiten Bongz

[Flappie]

I couldn't yesterday because I had reverted my OB build to Release, in order to compare 2.7 and 2.8 performance. I'm back on curent OB, I will try it today.

[Flappie]

OK, crash reproduced with current OB.

I made a movie clip. I'll show it to devs.

[Flappie]

The problem here is that the track won't replay correctly in ED internal bild, which means devs won't be able to reproducethe crash. But I'm pretty sure it will work if your aircraft starts in the air. I'll see what I can do with the movie clip showing the crash, but in the meantime, if you could reproduce the crash using my mission aboe, that would probably speed things up.

Edited November 12, 2022 by Flappie

[Hiten Bongz]

 I will work on that this weekend. Thanks for your help so far!!

[Flappie]

Hi @Hiten Bongz. Have you been able to create another track starting in the air and showing the crash?

[BIGNEWY]

I have marked investigating for now, if anyone has a track to share or a crash zip please do.

thanks

[DropBear64]

I am also having crashes as are my teammates. Unfortunately, I cannot reproduce as it is intermittent. Game seems to crash when we switch from cockpit to map or external view to either map or cockpit. We all have different builds though mine is probably the newest. I fly the Jeff and F16 and it happens in both aircraft. I just saw this post and thought I'd throw in my 2 cents worth. If I can reproduce, I'll post here. However, we don't get an error message it just freezes. Only started since last patch and since it's happening to 4 ppl i fly with it can't just be a co-incidence.