Hellfire range?

[Capn kamikaze]

According to most sources this missile should have a range of up to about 8km or 5 miles, yet George will tell you you're out of range and to get him closer until you're about 2-3 miles away.

?

[Fakum]

I cant speak for that specifically, but can only offer a suggestion. I just let George find and laze for me, then "I" select the Hellfire and Rifle. I have taken shots at just below *9980 and have hit successfully as long as the target is not obstructed and I am holding a nice steady hover so George can hold the laser on the target.

[corbu1]

I get George firing hellfires up to ranges of 7.8km or 7.9km in LOBL as long as George has free sight on target and AC is in missile constraints.

[Capn kamikaze]

13 minutes ago, corbu1 said:

I get George firing hellfires up to ranges of 7.8km or 7.9km in LOBL as long as George has free sight on target and AC is in missile constraints.

Well that's the thing, he's spotting them, he has them in the crosshairs, which means he has LOS, and I have tried both LOAL and LOBL, and he seems insistent on not engaging, so I'm having to get right into the engagement zones of things like the SA-19 and SA-15.

[sirrah]

1 hour ago, Capn kamikaze said:

Well that's the thing, he's spotting them, he has them in the crosshairs, which means he has LOS, and I have tried both LOAL and LOBL, and he seems insistent on not engaging, so I'm having to get right into the engagement zones of things like the SA-19 and SA-15.

At the moment for these max range shots, you can do as @Fakum suggested, or just switch to the CPG seat and do it it all yourself (the latter one being much more rewarding imho).

 

Perhaps ED will tweak George's max engagement range at some point, but personally, for MP, I hope they leave it like it is and give those who want to operate the CPG seat themselves a slight chance over all the airquake style pilots that just fly in and spam missiles using George's superhuman spotting and lasing capabilities.

[Fakum]

Yeah, I just Rifle them all from the Pilot seat, I never switch to front seat.

[Floyd1212]

Even with the latest 2.8 update, George still engages targets at 7999 meters and closer for me. 

Maybe post a track file at the shooting range where he isn't engaging below 8km and we can see what the issue might be?

[KoN]

On 11/12/2022 at 11:43 AM, Fakum said:

I cant speak for that specifically, but can only offer a suggestion. I just let George find and laze for me, then "I" select the Hellfire and Rifle. I have taken shots at just below *9980 and have hit successfully as long as the target is not obstructed and I am holding a nice steady hover so George can hold the laser on the target.

How are you firing yourself. ? 

[admiki]

You WAS the weapon of choice and press trigger

[Floyd1212]

So you tell George to use Hellfires and search for a target, when he finds one he lases it.  You tell him to engage, but if it's beyond 8km he won't shoot at it, saying it is too far  So you WAS Missiles from the back seat, and pull the trigger to launch one yourself.  George is still lasing the target, and the missile is guided.  You won't have a time-to-impact read-out, and at 9km you are looking at a 35+ second flight time, so don't give up on it too early.

[CrazyGman]

On 11/12/2022 at 5:00 AM, Capn kamikaze said:

Well that's the thing, he's spotting them, he has them in the crosshairs, which means he has LOS, and I have tried both LOAL and LOBL, and he seems insistent on not engaging, so I'm having to get right into the engagement zones of things like the SA-19 and SA-15.

I'm guessing the nose of your aircraft is to far of center. When your asking him to fire. Can be easy to havw happen if your just looking at the target and not making sure your aircraft is well line up with the target

[Belphe]

The missile battery operates for 45 seconds. You do the maths considering ambient temperature, air pressure, wind, actual flight path and target state. Easy peasy!  

Edited November 17, 2022 by Belphe

[MrReynolds]

Front seat flying people, front seat.  It's the new way

Fly and scan during ingress.  You can multi-task like the '16 or '18 with the FLIR.

 

Get into range, make sure you get into a good hover and engage George for the hovering and popping up and down.

 

Fire a couple off (ooo-er)! and scoot somewhere else manually.

Repeat and rinse.  LOVE IT. 

There's still a few Beta bugs like not being able to markpoint in the front (MP) but it's GREAT.

(Obviously RL tactics is FAR FAR superior have 2 seats, but if you want to fly AND fight it's great)

[NeedzWD40]

8 hours ago, MrReynolds said:

Front seat flying people, front seat.  It's the new way

Quoted for truth. I don't even both with letting George fly, I take control and run things myself. It's about like operating a Ka-50. Since George won't use the LMC, it's also a lot better for shifting left or right when you're trying to maintain track while denying the enemy a shot.

You can get around some of the markpoint issue by using the gunner's CAQ to set a point, either by showing cursor coordinates to get them close enough to a point or dropping them over the TADS point on the TSD.