Tom Kazansky Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 I'm sure the new RTX 4070 ti is good for DCS in 2D even at 4k. With this thread I want to ask people about their experiences with it in VR. Does it make sense or is the 4080 that much better to be worth that higher price tag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmuss Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) For high res VR it's not ideal, it's memory bandwidth is a little over half that of a 3080ti and can't push enough data through fast enough. Stay with lower textures and resolution and you'll be ok. Rift S or index and you'll be ok, Q2 or above and I think you'll be suffering a bit. Even the 4080 is less bandwidth than the 3080ti although it is a faster card. I'm not sure what the direct comparisons are like for DCS VR though. edit: first review I find for the 4070ti states that is worthless for 4k due to memory bus, the G2 at default resolution is pushing almost 2.5 times the number of pixels than 4k! Edited January 5, 2023 by edmuss 2 1 Ryzen7 7800X3D / RTX3080ti / 64GB DDR5 4800 / Varjo Aero / Leap Motion / Kinect Headtracking TM 28" Warthog Deltasim Hotas / DIY Pendular Rudders / DIY Cyclic Maglock Trimmer / DIY Abris / TM TX 599 evo wheel / TM T3PA pro / DIY 7+1+Sequential Shifter / DIY Handbrake / Cobra Clubman Seat Shoehorned into a 43" x 43" cupboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PILRIDER Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Hi! Is the EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Gaming still the best graphics card for DCS VR in 2023? I have an I9 12900KF processor on a WIFI PRO Z790-A motherboard with 32GB RAM running with my old water cooled GTX 1080 TI GPU. I was wondering which GPU would be effective in VR for DCS without being a budget killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmuss Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 From the last generation yes, only the ti is slightly faster. From the current generation I'd only go for the 4090 if budget allowed as it gives a sizeable uplift, I don't know that the 4080 is any faster than a 3090 in VR. Ryzen7 7800X3D / RTX3080ti / 64GB DDR5 4800 / Varjo Aero / Leap Motion / Kinect Headtracking TM 28" Warthog Deltasim Hotas / DIY Pendular Rudders / DIY Cyclic Maglock Trimmer / DIY Abris / TM TX 599 evo wheel / TM T3PA pro / DIY 7+1+Sequential Shifter / DIY Handbrake / Cobra Clubman Seat Shoehorned into a 43" x 43" cupboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supmua Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 On 1/5/2023 at 3:39 PM, Tom Kazansky said: I'm sure the new RTX 4070 ti is good for DCS in 2D even at 4k. With this thread I want to ask people about their experiences with it in VR. Does it make sense or is the 4080 that much better to be worth that higher price tag? According to some posts on Reddit, (non DCS) VR performance is similar to 3080. This may change when DCS has DLSS mode since current gen cards have better tensor tech but as of now think of it as 3080 equivalent in VR. 1 PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Kazansky Posted January 6, 2023 Author Share Posted January 6, 2023 57 minutes ago, Supmua said: but as of now think of it as 3080 equivalent in VR That wouldn't be bad for the money and power consumption of the 4070 ti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supmua Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tom Kazansky said: That wouldn't be bad for the money and power consumption of the 4070 ti. A lot of people think it's too expensive for what it offers, but in this era where a lousy half-inch Subway sandwich costs $8.50 (without tax) it seems about right to me--if you can get it at MSRP that is. 1 PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon1-1 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Supmua said: According to some posts on Reddit, (non DCS) VR performance is similar to 3080. This may change when DCS has DLSS mode since current gen cards have better tensor tech but as of now think of it as 3080 equivalent in VR. FYI, DLSS doesn't support VR. NIS might, but it's much less of a deal. FSR is a mere possibility right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Kazansky Posted January 6, 2023 Author Share Posted January 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dragon1-1 said: FYI, DLSS doesn't support VR. NIS might, but it's much less of a deal. FSR is a mere possibility right now. Thanks for the info. I missed FSR in the recently posted to do list for DCS in 2023 though. Is there any sign for hope that I missed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Kazansky Posted January 6, 2023 Author Share Posted January 6, 2023 13 minutes ago, Supmua said: A lot of people think it's too expensive for what it offers, but in this era where a lousy half-inch Subway sandwich costs $8.50 (without tax) it seems about right to me--if you can get it at MSRP that is. I should have added "compared to the 3080". I do agree in general and have only little to none hope that we could get close to good old times again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon1-1 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 15 minutes ago, Tom Kazansky said: Thanks for the info. I missed FSR in the recently posted to do list for DCS in 2023 though. Is there any sign for hope that I missed? They mentioned it'll be looked into after DLSS implementation is complete. So, not anytime soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supmua Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 You can have NIS or FSR as well as CAS right now via fholger’s VR perf kit mod. PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeofHyrule Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Dragon1-1 said: FYI, DLSS doesn't support VR. NIS might, but it's much less of a deal. FSR is a mere possibility right now. This is wrong, DLSS supports Vr since Version 2.1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmuss Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Bear in mind that the 3080 still has about 50% more bandwidth than the 4070ti, it's going to bog down with the amount of resolution and texture it has to push through currently. Analogous to 1000 cars travelling from point A to point B, put them on a 4 lane motorway that can do 70mph and they will get there quicker than on a single carriageway at 50mph. Ryzen7 7800X3D / RTX3080ti / 64GB DDR5 4800 / Varjo Aero / Leap Motion / Kinect Headtracking TM 28" Warthog Deltasim Hotas / DIY Pendular Rudders / DIY Cyclic Maglock Trimmer / DIY Abris / TM TX 599 evo wheel / TM T3PA pro / DIY 7+1+Sequential Shifter / DIY Handbrake / Cobra Clubman Seat Shoehorned into a 43" x 43" cupboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon1-1 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 8 hours ago, DukeofHyrule said: This is wrong, DLSS supports Vr since Version 2.1 AFAIK we're getting 2.0, which doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supmua Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Why in the world would they use 2.0 when we have 2.5.1 right now and it’s working incredibly well with other VR games? 2 PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Kazansky Posted January 7, 2023 Author Share Posted January 7, 2023 it is not DCS but it is a first taste (to me). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmuss Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Does not suprise me in any way shape or form 1 Ryzen7 7800X3D / RTX3080ti / 64GB DDR5 4800 / Varjo Aero / Leap Motion / Kinect Headtracking TM 28" Warthog Deltasim Hotas / DIY Pendular Rudders / DIY Cyclic Maglock Trimmer / DIY Abris / TM TX 599 evo wheel / TM T3PA pro / DIY 7+1+Sequential Shifter / DIY Handbrake / Cobra Clubman Seat Shoehorned into a 43" x 43" cupboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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