Modelviewer 2, not working at all...

[TigerTrigger [BE]]

Hi!

I have recently been having problems with modelviewer 2.

I reinstalled DCS on another SSD as before, to free up space.

But for some reason the Model Viewer 2 application won't start when I try to run it. (as admin)
I can see there is a process running in taskmanager, but it only takes up about 19.5MB of ram.
After some time the usedmemory drops to almost 0MB.
But no screen opens up.

Any Idea what this problem can be? As the application work perfectly before...

- I have tried reinstalling the entire DCS "game" for several times and on different locations, with always the same result.
- Deleted the folders in the saved games folder
- Updated my video carddrivers
- ...

Any idea's on how to fix it?
Any other side programs or driver I would have to update?
Anyone who can check confirm the latest download and DCS install has a working Modelviewer 2?


Thx in advance!


 

[razo+r]

My modelviewer works fine and I've used it just a few days ago. 

[Flаnker]

Hello. I recently faced the same problem. This program is very sensitive to Microsoft Visual C++ libraries.

Modelviewer 2 does not work with C++ libraries that are included in the DCS distribution

In order to make it work, I had to reinstall windows 4 times)

The algorithm is like this.

1. windows installation;
2. Installing drivers for the chipset and video card;
3. Installing Microsoft Visual C++ 2015-19 (this particular version!);
4. DCS installation;

Edited January 10, 2023 by Flаnker

[Nick_17]

I have the exact same problem since a few months. While writing with the ED Support we found a workaround: when i create a new windows user (no admin, dunno if that matters) and run the modelviewer on that account it works without any problems. We were not able to identify the cause tho. 

[SkateZilla]

/Saved Games/ Likely has an edModelViewer folder with a outdated path.

 

Rename it, add something to the end of the folder name and re-launch model viewer.

or the qtPlatform files are missing.

 

Edited January 17, 2023 by SkateZilla

[Nick_17]

16 hours ago, SkateZilla said:

/Saved Games/ Likely has an edModelViewer folder with a outdated path.

 

Rename it, add something to the end of the folder name and re-launch model viewer.

or the qtPlatform files are missing.

 

 

I removed the edModelViewer folder in /Saved Games/ a long time ago when i first encountered the problem. Since then there was no new folder like that created.

Are the qtPlatform files part of the DCS Installation? If thats the case then i'd guess they are not missing, since I tried several repairs, a clean reinstall of DCS and once copied a DCS Installation from a PC where the ModelViewer was working to my PC.

If they are not part of DCS, where would they be located?

[SkateZilla]

18 minutes ago, Nick_17 said:

I removed the edModelViewer folder in /Saved Games/ a long time ago when i first encountered the problem. Since then there was no new folder like that created.

Are the qtPlatform files part of the DCS Installation? If thats the case then i'd guess they are not missing, since I tried several repairs, a clean reinstall of DCS and once copied a DCS Installation from a PC where the ModelViewer was working to my PC.

If they are not part of DCS, where would they be located?

it would be a few files qwindows.dll, and qtplatform.dll

Does ModelViewer generate a new log when you launch it?

 

/Saved Games/edModelviewer/logs/model_viewer2.log

Edited January 17, 2023 by SkateZilla

[Nick_17]

4 minutes ago, SkateZilla said:

it would be a few files qwindows.dll, and qtplatform.dll

Does ModelViewer generate a new log when you launch it?

 

/Saved Games/edModelviewer/logs/model_viewer2.log

 

qwindows.dll is within the dcs bin folder, but i cant find the qtplatform.dll.

No the MV doesn't generate any logs, neither does it create the edModelviewer folder

[SkateZilla]

2 minutes ago, Nick_17 said:

qwindows.dll is within the dcs bin folder, but i cant find the qtplatform.dll.

No the MV doesn't generate any logs, neither does it create the edModelviewer folder

If it's not generating a new .log, then it's not starting up at all.

should also have:
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Edited January 17, 2023 by SkateZilla

[Nick_17]

Thats what i was thinking. The MV is listed in the TaskManager with about 20mb Ram usage and a bit of cpu usage for ~4 seconds before it drops to 0.

The files are all existing: 

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[Flаnker]

В 10.01.2023 в 15:34, Nick_17 сказал:

I have the exact same problem since a few months. While writing with the ED Support we found a workaround: when i create a new windows user (no admin, dunno if that matters) and run the modelviewer on that account it works without any problems. We were not able to identify the cause tho. 

ModelViewer will not start due to the wrong version of Microsoft Visual C++. It needs version 2015-19. I had exactly the same problem. I was able to solve it only by reinstalling Windows and installing Microsoft Visual C ++ 2015-19 (before installing DСS). 

 

[Nick_17]

3 minutes ago, Flаnker said:

ModelViewer will not start due to the wrong version of Microsoft Visual C++. It needs version 2015-19. I had exactly the same problem. I was able to solve it only by reinstalling Windows and installing Microsoft Visual C ++ 2015-19 (before installing DСS). 

I had this version installed before the problem came up (2015-2019 - 14.28.29914) and this has not changed until now. My Modelviewer was working until fall 2022, my installed Microsoft Visual C++ Versions have not changed until after i had the problem for the first time. I dont think thats the cause on my end

[jackd]

I am fed up with imodelviewer2 , been collecting model edm files from all over the place: this modelviewer2 really sucks IMO. a lot wont load, sometimes only an empty square box, or nothing; i am about to forget about this tool; its useless. Waste of time. Shame on DCS !

ADDED after deleting the edMdelViiewerTrunk folders in saved games things seem to improve, as a lot of my non working edm files now suddenly work. Pls see post below on more details. 

Edited January 12 by jackd

[razo+r]

40 minutes ago, jackd said:

I am fed up with imodelviewer2 , been collecting model edm files from all over the place: this modelviewer2 really sucks IMO. a lot wont load, sometimes only an empty square box, or nothing; i am about to forget about this tool; its useless. Waste of time. Shame on DCS !

Cannot really share your experience. All models I load work fine, no issues there.

And since you don't provide any informations about which models you are talking about, nobody can help you...

P.S.: double posting is also useless. Just scatters informations and complicates communication.

[jackd]

Sorry, this morning i spent time on getting modelviewer2 to work. Done some searches on the subject, and after deleting the edMdelViiewerTrunk folders in Saved Games things seem to improve, as a lot of my non working edm files now suddenly work. Old WW2 stuff, and old especially plane model edms seem still to refuse duty. Also changed the autoexec.lua in the new one created by DCS there about scan for textures and reinstalled the Visual Basic C ++ in windows. 

Edited January 12 by jackd

[razo+r]

7 hours ago, jackd said:

Sorry, this morning i spent time on getting modelviewer2 to work. Done some searches on the subject, and after deleting the edMdelViiewerTrunk folders in Saved Games things seem to improve, as a lot of my non working edm files now suddenly work. Old WW2 stuff, and old especially plane model edms seem still to refuse duty. Also changed the autoexec.lua in the new one created by DCS there about scan for textures and reinstalled the Visual Basic C ++ in windows. 

Depending on how old the stuff is they might not load at all as they are outdated and the file format has changed and evolved quite a bit over the years, so it is to be expected.

[jackd]

Q: Exploring Modelviewer2 ..... under EDM tools there's a Edm -> Edm2 function. What's the use?

Tested older edm models with it that show up as box only, but nothing happens it seems.

Edited January 21 by jackd

[joey45]

 I would like to know to.
 

It’s probably a future thing not implemented yet