Bananabrai Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 Would it be possible to make some older AIM-9 variants available for some older scenarios? Sadly it was chosen to not make other retro weapons with great cold war potential available. I was hoping though that AIM-9L or P are somewhat upwards/downwards/plug&play compatible IRL and could be used. It is already kinda hard to recreate Greek, Norwegian or other European Vipers. We would be thankful for a bit more fun on this side of the pond, as these nations ordered different equipment. 5 Alias in Discord: Mailman
Mike_Romeo Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 Correct me if I am wrong but doesnt the F-86 Sabre in DCS have some ancient Aim-9 ? Also who knows what missiles the F-4, F-8, A-7 that are in devlopment brings If I remember correctly, the Aim-4 Falon was confirmed for the F-4 My skins
Default774 Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Mike_Romeo said: Correct me if I am wrong but doesnt the F-86 Sabre in DCS have some ancient Aim-9 The F86, F-5 and Mirage F1 all have the AIM-9B(GAR-8) 1
Exorcet Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 We have multiple versions of the AIM-9P, some of which are equivalent to older Sidewinder versions. The Mirage F1 also introduced the AIM-9J. There are a few other variants to add, but we have quite a few Cold War Sidewinders. As for the F-16 in particular, that is a 2000's plane. The least capable AIM-9 it was ever planned to get is the P, I'm not sure exactly which version. Awaiting: DCS F-15C Win 10 i5-9600KF 4.6 GHz 64 GB RAM RTX2080Ti 11GB -- Win 7 64 i5-6600K 3.6 GHz 32 GB RAM GTX970 4GB -- A-10C, F-5E, Su-27, F-15C, F-14B, F-16C missions in User Files
upyr1 Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Mike_Romeo said: Correct me if I am wrong but doesnt the F-86 Sabre in DCS have some ancient Aim-9 ? Also who knows what missiles the F-4, F-8, A-7 that are in devlopment brings If I remember correctly, the Aim-4 Falon was confirmed for the F-4 I believe you are right, the issue the thread brings up is what's the oldest version of the sidewinder we can load on the F-16 or 18. 2 hours ago, Exorcet said: We have multiple versions of the AIM-9P, some of which are equivalent to older Sidewinder versions. The Mirage F1 also introduced the AIM-9J. There are a few other variants to add, but we have quite a few Cold War Sidewinders. As for the F-16 in particular, that is a 2000's plane. The least capable AIM-9 it was ever planned to get is the P, I'm not sure exactly which version. This is one of the reasons a lot of people including myself would like to see an F-16A. A model isn't the highest on my list but it isn't the lowest either
Bananabrai Posted January 18, 2023 Author Posted January 18, 2023 Oh man. For whatever reason I was smart enough to post this topic here. It was my intention on having this in the Viper section... So I was talking of having AIM-9L and 9P for the F-16C of course... Wanted to post this in the wishlist category of the Viper. Maybe an admin could move it? Would that be NineLine? Alias in Discord: Mailman
Gunfreak Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) Would love AIM-9 L for F16 and harrier too(so I can pretend it's an FRS1) The F14s have the L. It's fun to use. And you really do notice the difference between the L and M om the F14. Much like you notice the difference between the M and X on the F16 and F18 Edited January 18, 2023 by Gunfreak i7 13700k @5.2ghz, GTX 5090 OC, 128Gig ram 4800mhz DDR5, M2 drive.
Bananabrai Posted January 18, 2023 Author Posted January 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Gunfreak said: Would love AIM-9 L for F16 and harrier too(so I can pretend it's an FRS1) The F14s have the L. It's fun to use. And you really do notice the difference between the L and M om the F14. Much like you notice the difference between the M and X on the F16 and F18 Exactly. Harrier as well!. Building/playing my own 1988 campaign flying out of Akrotiri (Harrier) and Paphos with the Mirage F1 & maybe F-16. With some older Winders it would be more fun. Alias in Discord: Mailman
Default774 Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 10 hours ago, Bananabrai said: So I was talking of having AIM-9L and 9P for the F-16C of course You are aware that the F-16 already has the 9L right?
Bananabrai Posted January 19, 2023 Author Posted January 19, 2023 12 hours ago, Default774 said: You are aware that the F-16 already has the 9L right? Good point. I guess I was confused entirely. Didn't realize it. Would be nice to have L available for the Harrier as well. Alias in Discord: Mailman
WinterH Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 What's that expected difference between AIM-9L and M? I really am curious. As far as I know they are broadly the same-ish apart from L having a smoky motor and having a little less countermeasure resistance? To me it feels like stepping down from M to L really shouldn't make that much of a difference. Most significant thing between the two would be the smoke I feel like. Wishlist: F-4E Block 53 +, MiG-27K, Su-17M3 or M4, AH-1F or W circa 80s or early 90s, J35 Draken, Kfir C7, Mirage III/V DCS-Dismounts Script
Bananabrai Posted January 19, 2023 Author Posted January 19, 2023 I know that there is different L's. Germany (Diehl Defence) for example builds L's that are almost up to M capabilites, the older L's should be less capable. But I don't know details. A 'P' would be nice for rear aspect only, and maybe a P5. Both are in game already. Alias in Discord: Mailman
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