Lobo_63 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Does this tool work with Win7? I'm using Jesse's program with W7. Works great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherealN Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 (edited) Sorry but that laptop isn't a gaming rig. Did I ever say it was? I stated the performance experience in DCS on it, which actually mirror the ones on the hardware of that other guy using quite a bit more expensive hardware, to illustrate the absurdity of that much more expensive rig getting so low performance. Edited January 24, 2009 by EtherealN I'll be nice. >.< [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morsmortis Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Disabling 1 GPU yielded interesting results. I did seem to get back about 5-6 fps. It is quite absurd that my 3d Mark Vantage score can be 23k, and I can play Crisis very high on everything and still get 60fps consistantly (1680x1050) but Black Shark basically laughs in my face with 30-40 fps over cities. Btw I do get 60 FPS in the mountains, so maybe it's a texture problem? It's a new card so things like this can be expected, but it's basically a 280 x2 with the memory of a 260 x2. It's not like it's a G300 series chip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazysundog Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I have a GTX260core216 SC edition, and an E8500 OC'd to 4.04, and I over some cities I get 20 FPS. This is a CPU limitation, morsmortis. Also, if you force Vsync to 'off' in Nvidia control panel, you will see an improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuDepp Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 ...limiting factor are those many polygons - NOT the textures..... Greets & be happy with your GT200ґs S@uDepp // Hasi @4,5 GHz @ H100i // Asrock Z87M Extreme 4 // Avirex 4x4GB // PALIT 1070 GTX SuperJetStream // Corsair 350D // Plextor extern // DELL 2407WFP // Razer Lancehead // 2xThrustmaster T.16000M + Saitek Pedals Pro // Oculus Rift // 3x amBX // Win10 Pro x64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raploc Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Did I ever say it was? I stated the performance experience in DCS on it, which actually mirror the ones on the hardware of that other guy using quite a bit more expensive hardware, to illustrate the absurdity of that much more expensive rig getting so low performance. Sorry my bad, need to learn to read first and then post. This is my rig: www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/precn_690 I know that this is not a consumer (read gaming) computer, but even with 2 Xeon's @ 2.66 Ghz and 4 GB mem plus 1 10K RPM SATA drive and a 15K RPM SAS drive (BS installed in this one) I'm just getting between 25-40 FPS. The videocard is a 8800 GT. But I'm having a blast flying the BS. :pilotfly: PC's are strange creatures sometimes. Maybe a botched device driver is hindering his computer, but who knows for sure :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherealN Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 My suspicion would actually be that the CPU just tops out. On that laptop I can fiddle with the graphics settings quite a bit and it'll only change the framerate by one or two here and there. The fact that the engine itself isn't set up to take advantage of multicores MIGHT mean that my Intel E8500 (3.16GHz) PC is theoretically better for Black Shark than the one you have there - simply through getting more clock cycles on the one core that the game will be properly using. I haven't really looked at the Xeon architecture's capabilities though so who knows. Never easy to compare processors between architectures. The rest of the setup on this one is 4GB of DDR2 @ 800MHz, a regular SATA and a 9800GTX+. With that setup I get basically 25-40 as well and almost irrespective of the graphics settings. So I think the main things that would do wonders for Black Shark is an engine that will make full use of all cores present as well as use the PhysX features on the nVidia GPUs (and whatever AMD has that is equivalent on the Radeons) if they do not already do so. But yeah, it really could be almost anything for that guy. :( 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raploc Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Strange I'm getting a virus warning when I want to download the DCSBS affinity tool. I'm using Avast. Can anyone confirm the utter and complete overreacting of my virus scanner :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuDepp Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 (edited) Strange I'm getting a virus warning when I want to download the DCSBS affinity tool. I'm using Avast. Can anyone confirm the utter and complete overreacting of my virus scanner :D 1. first pause the standard and the web provider, reactivate them after receiving the file. 2. Do it like said by AVAST ..... ".....You need to use the Exclusion lists: For the Standard Shield provider (on-access scanning): Left click the 'a' blue icon, click on the provider icon at left and then Customize. Go to Advanced tab and click on Add button... For the other providers (on-demand scanning such as the screen-saver or the Simple User Interface): Right click the 'a' blue icon, click Program Settings. Go to Exclusions tab and click on Add button... You can use wildcards like * and ?. But be careful, you should 'exclude' that many files that let your system in danger. .... ......" Be sure to set teh EXACTLY file path for the exclusion! AVAST is informed - hopefully they will change the false positive within the next updates..... Greets S@uDepp Edited January 25, 2009 by S@uDepp // Hasi @4,5 GHz @ H100i // Asrock Z87M Extreme 4 // Avirex 4x4GB // PALIT 1070 GTX SuperJetStream // Corsair 350D // Plextor extern // DELL 2407WFP // Razer Lancehead // 2xThrustmaster T.16000M + Saitek Pedals Pro // Oculus Rift // 3x amBX // Win10 Pro x64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestrokin Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I am getting a virus warning also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raploc Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Thanks S@uDepp, I simply stopped Avast and downloaded the file. I also informed them of this false positive. Greettzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eV1Te Posted January 25, 2009 Author Share Posted January 25, 2009 Maybe an administrator could change the name of the thread to (or similar): DCS: How to gain performance on Windows Vista (Windows 7) I think that suites the content of the tread more and maybe more people with Vista can discover it and therefore have a more pleasant gaming experience. :thumbup: Also if possible make it a sticky! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuDepp Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Maybe an administrator could change the name of the thread to (or similar): DCS: How to gain performance on Windows Vista (Windows 7) I think that suites the content of the tread more and maybe more people with Vista can discover it and therefore have a more pleasant gaming experience. :thumbup: Also if possible make it a sticky! Vista is Win6 ..... Win7 is the new one (beta) ..... Greets S@uDepp // Hasi @4,5 GHz @ H100i // Asrock Z87M Extreme 4 // Avirex 4x4GB // PALIT 1070 GTX SuperJetStream // Corsair 350D // Plextor extern // DELL 2407WFP // Razer Lancehead // 2xThrustmaster T.16000M + Saitek Pedals Pro // Oculus Rift // 3x amBX // Win10 Pro x64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eV1Te Posted January 25, 2009 Author Share Posted January 25, 2009 Vista is Win6 ..... Win7 is the new one (beta) ..... Greets S@uDepp Yes that's correct kind of, but Vista isn't called Windows 6, it's only the new Windows that has a version number in the official name "Windows 7" :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromium Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 No, as far as I am aware, no FPS improvement is possible on XP from setting multiple cores. In addition, the script uses a command that only exists in Vista, so it won't even run on XP. Ehm... I'm on XP SP2.... Dual Cores... and when I set 2 cores affinity I got 15 fps more (total: 35). This sounds as an Improved performance, to me. It seems that cores affinity improved performances It's more related to your hardware when you run XP (RAM, Motherboard...). Salù Author of DSMC, mod to enable scenario persistency and save updated miz file Stable version & site: https://dsmcfordcs.wordpress.com/ Openbeta: https://github.com/Chromium18/DSMC The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by it's nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat778 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Ehm... I'm on XP SP2.... Dual Cores... and when I set 2 cores affinity I got 15 fps more (total: 35). This sounds as an Improved performance, to me. It seems that cores affinity improved performances It's more related to your hardware when you run XP (RAM, Motherboard...). Salù Thats interesting and good to know.:thumbup: You are the first person I have seen report this, and I know it had no effect on my PC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugatu Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Ditto, definitely not a super duper feature of Windows 7. I do like it much better than XP though, specially the boot times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromium Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Thats interesting and good to know.:thumbup: You are the first person I have seen report this, and I know it had no effect on my PC... I don't know if it will be useful... but.. Intel E6400 2,13 GHz; ASUS P5K motherboard 4 Gb Ram (750 Mb fixed for Win) WinXP 32bit nVidia 9800 GTX One thing that I Can't understand... BS use always something like 450 Mb / 600 Mb of RAMs... can I improve performance if I find some method to force it use 2 Gb (example) Author of DSMC, mod to enable scenario persistency and save updated miz file Stable version & site: https://dsmcfordcs.wordpress.com/ Openbeta: https://github.com/Chromium18/DSMC The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by it's nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purg Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I don't know if it will be useful... but.. Intel E6400 2,13 GHz; ASUS P5K motherboard 4 Gb Ram (750 Mb fixed for Win) WinXP 32bit nVidia 9800 GTX One thing that I Can't understand... BS use always something like 450 Mb / 600 Mb of RAMs... can I improve performance if I find some method to force it use 2 Gb (example) !? The memory footprint is the memory footprint, it's using the amount of memory it needs in order to complete the tasks it's being asked to complete. You can't force an application to consume more memory, it would be absolutely pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scif Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 i dunno whats going on but my comodo anti virus is now alerting me to a backdoor.win32.bitfrose virus. within the exe of the affinity tool, but my search and destroy picks up nothing. anyone got any idea or same issue? Asus P8P67-M Pro, i7 2600K@4.6Ghz, 4gb Vengence Ram, Gainward GTX 580 3gb Phantom, Win7 64 Ultimate, Warthog Control System. Trackir 5 Pro, Saitek Combat Pedals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eV1Te Posted January 29, 2009 Author Share Posted January 29, 2009 I would think it's a false warning, the anti virus software maybe senses that this exe is made to change the cpu affinity of another program (which could be classed as a security risk depending on what you change the affinity of) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eV1Te Posted January 29, 2009 Author Share Posted January 29, 2009 (edited) I added some new information to the main post... New Stuff 2009-01-29: Reducing Shadows to Active Planar instead of Full gives me a few extra FPS Reducing Water reflection to Normal instead of High gives me a few extra FPS Playing in full screen instead of windowed (which i usually do in games) gives me an 15-20 FPS boost (even though full screen is at a higher resolution than windowed) Edited January 29, 2009 by eV1Te Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuDepp Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 ....then try to disable visual designs temporary too! (right click on shortcut -->campatibility) Greets S@uDepp // Hasi @4,5 GHz @ H100i // Asrock Z87M Extreme 4 // Avirex 4x4GB // PALIT 1070 GTX SuperJetStream // Corsair 350D // Plextor extern // DELL 2407WFP // Razer Lancehead // 2xThrustmaster T.16000M + Saitek Pedals Pro // Oculus Rift // 3x amBX // Win10 Pro x64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummer Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Hi, I downloaded and used Jesse's program for about a week which worked great and was easy to use. Today i found it was deleted from my windows and wheni tried to re download it my AVG anti virus kept reporting a virus and would not allow to overide it. I see on Jesse's page that this might be a false reporting problem with some anti virus softeware. Any one else have this problem and a work around, as it is so good i want to keep using it? ! thanks drummer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PE_Tigar Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Stop using antivirus software. I've been using PCs since 1994, building PCs since 1998, never used antivirus software, never had a virus. My main problem in my work PC is the centrally managed antivirus, it's intrusive and blocks completely random stuff left and right... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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