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Hello. I am not even sure this is a bug, but I thought it would be a good idea to share the experience. The Caucuses Free Flight for F-16 is a no threat mission. Some ground targets and some red su-25s flying around. Since the patch the su-25s have chased me and killed me with missiles. Another thing I noticed was the pilot actually survived. Anyone else see this?

I have track to upload later if wanted. 


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1 hour ago, Flappie said:

I cannot reproduce your issue. This mission was recently updated and ED took extra precautions to prevent this (ROE = Hold + Restrict Air-to-Air attack = on) on all 6 red Su-25.

Please attach your track, I'll take a look to see how you made them angry. 😉

hi flappie. thanks for looking. i have attached the mission, trk and a TacView file. i will say that i made a copy of mission and edited it for a different plane skin and mavericks as weapons. but no modifications of RoE.

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“The MIGS came up, the MIGS were aggressive, we tangled, they lost.”

- Robin Olds - An American fighter pilot. He was a triple ace.

The only man to ever record a confirmed kill while in glide mode.

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7 minutes ago, Flappie said:

For some reason, your track wouldn't show me the attack.

However, I spotted a difference between your mission and ED's: the "Restrict Air-to-Air attack = on" opton is missing for all 3 Su-25 flights.

Add it in and you should be safe.

thanks. i am sure i did not change anything other than skin and weapons. so very weird. i will try and let you know.

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“The MIGS came up, the MIGS were aggressive, we tangled, they lost.”

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The only man to ever record a confirmed kill while in glide mode.

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26 minutes ago, Flappie said:

The .miz was edited by ED in December. Maybe your version is from an older version?

hell flappie. i am sure it was. i saw this post and thought i would try it.

i never have messed with anything except loadout and skins. changing RoE is not my skill so i am certain it was not something i did. i marked your suggestion as solution. i just thought there might be something else going on with going from patch to patch messing with missions. thanks as always.

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“The MIGS came up, the MIGS were aggressive, we tangled, they lost.”

- Robin Olds - An American fighter pilot. He was a triple ace.

The only man to ever record a confirmed kill while in glide mode.

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1 hour ago, silverdevil said:

hello flappie. i am sure it was. i saw this post and thought i would try it.

i never have messed with anything except loadout and skins. changing RoE is not my skill so i am certain it was not something i did. i marked your suggestion as solution. i just thought there might be something else going on with going from patch to patch messing with missions. thanks as always.

meant hello @Flappie. not hell. lol. Je suis désolé

i have two other missions from backups.

SD F-16C - Caucasus - Free Flight-2022-12-31-0929.mizSD F-16C - Caucasus - Free Flight-2023-01-11-1708.miz


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“The MIGS came up, the MIGS were aggressive, we tangled, they lost.”

- Robin Olds - An American fighter pilot. He was a triple ace.

The only man to ever record a confirmed kill while in glide mode.

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hello @Flappie i have tried to change RoE on the frogfoots. no effect. here is screen shot of the settings for one of the flights. this past time i tried i got low and the ground units were shooting now too. first time i have noticed that.

why grey? thanks

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- Robin Olds - An American fighter pilot. He was a triple ace.

The only man to ever record a confirmed kill while in glide mode.

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13 hours ago, Flappie said:

I meant that your mission misses this item. This seems to prevent Su-25 from attacking an air target. It would seem the "ROE = WEAPON HOLD" only works for ground units.

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ok got it. thanks for the tip. however. this is even more weird. i opened the default mission from \Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\Mods\aircraft\F-16C\Missions\QuickStart and there are no SU-25s in it. dated JAN 25 2023. it seems that ED removed them at some point. i know i did not add the SU-25s to my mission. i do not even know how to do it. its a mystery. thanks for your attention.

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“The MIGS came up, the MIGS were aggressive, we tangled, they lost.”

- Robin Olds - An American fighter pilot. He was a triple ace.

The only man to ever record a confirmed kill while in glide mode.

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1 hour ago, Flappie said:

The Su-25 are present, but hidden.

lol yes! sorry. i am dumb. i realized that the units were hidden and came here to let you know. the latest mission has the correct settings. i was able to avenge my earlier deaths. 😄 i am a total n00b when it comes to mission editor.


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“The MIGS came up, the MIGS were aggressive, we tangled, they lost.”

- Robin Olds - An American fighter pilot. He was a triple ace.

The only man to ever record a confirmed kill while in glide mode.

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