silverdevil Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 (edited) Hello. I am not even sure this is a bug, but I thought it would be a good idea to share the experience. The Caucuses Free Flight for F-16 is a no threat mission. Some ground targets and some red su-25s flying around. Since the patch the su-25s have chased me and killed me with missiles. Another thing I noticed was the pilot actually survived. Anyone else see this? I have track to upload later if wanted. Edited February 3, 2023 by silverdevil AKA_SilverDevil Join AKA Wardogs Email Address My YouTube “The MIGS came up, the MIGS were aggressive, we tangled, they lost.” - Robin Olds - An American fighter pilot. He was a triple ace. The only man to ever record a confirmed kill while in glide mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 I cannot reproduce your issue. This mission was recently updated and ED took extra precautions to prevent this (ROE = Hold + Restrict Air-to-Air attack = on) on all 6 red Su-25. Please attach your track, I'll take a look to see how you made them angry. --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverdevil Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Flappie said: I cannot reproduce your issue. This mission was recently updated and ED took extra precautions to prevent this (ROE = Hold + Restrict Air-to-Air attack = on) on all 6 red Su-25. Please attach your track, I'll take a look to see how you made them angry. hi flappie. thanks for looking. i have attached the mission, trk and a TacView file. i will say that i made a copy of mission and edited it for a different plane skin and mavericks as weapons. but no modifications of RoE. Track TacView Mission AKA_SilverDevil Join AKA Wardogs Email Address My YouTube “The MIGS came up, the MIGS were aggressive, we tangled, they lost.” - Robin Olds - An American fighter pilot. He was a triple ace. The only man to ever record a confirmed kill while in glide mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Flappie Posted February 3, 2023 Solution Share Posted February 3, 2023 For some reason, your track wouldn't show me the attack. However, I spotted a difference between your mission and ED's: the "Restrict Air-to-Air attack = on" opton is missing for all 3 Su-25 flights. Add it in and you should be safe. --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverdevil Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, Flappie said: For some reason, your track wouldn't show me the attack. However, I spotted a difference between your mission and ED's: the "Restrict Air-to-Air attack = on" opton is missing for all 3 Su-25 flights. Add it in and you should be safe. thanks. i am sure i did not change anything other than skin and weapons. so very weird. i will try and let you know. AKA_SilverDevil Join AKA Wardogs Email Address My YouTube “The MIGS came up, the MIGS were aggressive, we tangled, they lost.” - Robin Olds - An American fighter pilot. He was a triple ace. The only man to ever record a confirmed kill while in glide mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 The .miz was edited by ED in December. Maybe your version is from an older version? --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverdevil Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 26 minutes ago, Flappie said: The .miz was edited by ED in December. Maybe your version is from an older version? hell flappie. i am sure it was. i saw this post and thought i would try it. i never have messed with anything except loadout and skins. changing RoE is not my skill so i am certain it was not something i did. i marked your suggestion as solution. i just thought there might be something else going on with going from patch to patch messing with missions. thanks as always. 1 AKA_SilverDevil Join AKA Wardogs Email Address My YouTube “The MIGS came up, the MIGS were aggressive, we tangled, they lost.” - Robin Olds - An American fighter pilot. He was a triple ace. The only man to ever record a confirmed kill while in glide mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverdevil Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, silverdevil said: hello flappie. i am sure it was. i saw this post and thought i would try it. i never have messed with anything except loadout and skins. changing RoE is not my skill so i am certain it was not something i did. i marked your suggestion as solution. i just thought there might be something else going on with going from patch to patch messing with missions. thanks as always. meant hello @Flappie. not hell. lol. Je suis désolé i have two other missions from backups. SD F-16C - Caucasus - Free Flight-2022-12-31-0929.mizSD F-16C - Caucasus - Free Flight-2023-01-11-1708.miz Edited February 4, 2023 by silverdevil AKA_SilverDevil Join AKA Wardogs Email Address My YouTube “The MIGS came up, the MIGS were aggressive, we tangled, they lost.” - Robin Olds - An American fighter pilot. He was a triple ace. The only man to ever record a confirmed kill while in glide mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverdevil Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 hello @Flappie i have tried to change RoE on the frogfoots. no effect. here is screen shot of the settings for one of the flights. this past time i tried i got low and the ground units were shooting now too. first time i have noticed that. why grey? thanks null AKA_SilverDevil Join AKA Wardogs Email Address My YouTube “The MIGS came up, the MIGS were aggressive, we tangled, they lost.” - Robin Olds - An American fighter pilot. He was a triple ace. The only man to ever record a confirmed kill while in glide mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 I meant that your mission misses this item. This seems to prevent Su-25 from attacking an air target. It would seem the "ROE = WEAPON HOLD" only works for ground units. --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverdevil Posted February 5, 2023 Author Share Posted February 5, 2023 13 hours ago, Flappie said: I meant that your mission misses this item. This seems to prevent Su-25 from attacking an air target. It would seem the "ROE = WEAPON HOLD" only works for ground units. ok got it. thanks for the tip. however. this is even more weird. i opened the default mission from \Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\Mods\aircraft\F-16C\Missions\QuickStart and there are no SU-25s in it. dated JAN 25 2023. it seems that ED removed them at some point. i know i did not add the SU-25s to my mission. i do not even know how to do it. its a mystery. thanks for your attention. AKA_SilverDevil Join AKA Wardogs Email Address My YouTube “The MIGS came up, the MIGS were aggressive, we tangled, they lost.” - Robin Olds - An American fighter pilot. He was a triple ace. The only man to ever record a confirmed kill while in glide mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 The Su-25 are present, but hidden. --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverdevil Posted February 5, 2023 Author Share Posted February 5, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Flappie said: The Su-25 are present, but hidden. lol yes! sorry. i am dumb. i realized that the units were hidden and came here to let you know. the latest mission has the correct settings. i was able to avenge my earlier deaths. i am a total n00b when it comes to mission editor. Edited February 5, 2023 by silverdevil AKA_SilverDevil Join AKA Wardogs Email Address My YouTube “The MIGS came up, the MIGS were aggressive, we tangled, they lost.” - Robin Olds - An American fighter pilot. He was a triple ace. The only man to ever record a confirmed kill while in glide mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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