Dragon81 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 (edited) I'm not good at this at all. I have a hard enough time trying to figure out where I'm going, and the one thing I had to guide me while I fumble my way around the cockpit is gone. Any suggestions on how to turn it back on? Edit: I tried rolling back to a previous version, (2.8.1.34667.2). I got "404 not found". Edited May 11, 2023 by Dragon81 left out detail 1 Belldandy - Core i5-9600k; 32gb RAM; RTX 2060; Sound Blaster Z Saitek X-56; Thrustmaster T16000m; Saitek Pro Flight Pedals; Rift S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 12 minutes ago, Dragon81 said: I tried rolling back to a previous version, (2.8.1.34667.2). I got "404 not found". That's an openbeta version, maybe you are on Stable? For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon81 Posted May 12, 2023 Author Share Posted May 12, 2023 47 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said: That's an openbeta version, maybe you are on Stable? I am on stable. I thought I pulled the number from the stable version list. I'll check again. Thanks! Belldandy - Core i5-9600k; 32gb RAM; RTX 2060; Sound Blaster Z Saitek X-56; Thrustmaster T16000m; Saitek Pro Flight Pedals; Rift S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dragon81 said: I am on stable. I thought I pulled the number from the stable version list. I'll check again. Thanks! My mistake, Just checked and that version number is in both Stable and Openbeta. Try the prior one: DCS 2.7.18.30765 For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon81 Posted May 12, 2023 Author Share Posted May 12, 2023 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said: That's an openbeta version, maybe you are on Stable? I just confirmed that it's the previous stable version. This is what I get. 00000.090 --- Log file: C:\Users\tjmow\AppData\Local\Temp\DCS\autoupdate_templog.txt 00000.000 === Log opened UTC 2023-05-12 00:36:38 00000.016 INFO : DCS_Updater/2.16.2.17 (Windows NT 10.0.19044; Win64; en-US) 00000.017 INFO : src-id: 5972e82a1851d36865c17506579c27cbd5b8e3b4, lib-id: b88ea51ae2210987a3865f77cc1802548216d7a8 00000.017 INFO : cmdline: DCS_updater.exe update 2.8.1.34667.2@stable 00000.087 STATUS: Initializing... 00000.088 INFO : basedir: D:\DCS World\DCS World\ 00000.089 INFO : DCS/2.8.4.39731 (x86_64; EN; WORLD,FC3,MARIANAISLANDS_terrain,RAZBAM_AV8BNA,CAUCASUS_terrain) 00000.089 INFO : branch: 00000.091 STATUS: Checking for updates... 00000.896 ERROR: www.digitalcombatsimulator.com replied HTTP 404 Not Found 00000.898 STATUS: 404 Not Found 00093.803 === Log closed. and when I tried 2.7.18.30765 00000.000 === Log opened UTC 2023-05-12 00:38:42 00000.016 INFO : DCS_Updater/2.16.2.17 (Windows NT 10.0.19044; Win64; en-US) 00000.016 INFO : src-id: 5972e82a1851d36865c17506579c27cbd5b8e3b4, lib-id: b88ea51ae2210987a3865f77cc1802548216d7a8 00000.017 INFO : cmdline: DCS_updater.exe update 2.7.18.30765@stable 00000.085 STATUS: Initializing... 00000.086 INFO : basedir: D:\DCS World\DCS World\ 00000.086 INFO : DCS/2.8.4.39731 (x86_64; EN; WORLD,FC3,MARIANAISLANDS_terrain,RAZBAM_AV8BNA,CAUCASUS_terrain) 00000.086 INFO : branch: 00000.088 STATUS: Checking for updates... 00002.055 ERROR: www.digitalcombatsimulator.com replied HTTP 404 Not Found 00002.056 STATUS: 404 Not Found 00007.052 === Log closed. Edited May 12, 2023 by Dragon81 Belldandy - Core i5-9600k; 32gb RAM; RTX 2060; Sound Blaster Z Saitek X-56; Thrustmaster T16000m; Saitek Pro Flight Pedals; Rift S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 Seems you will have to open a support ticket, to know which versions are actually available For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thx1137 Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 I assume you know that the patch notes says: Game Options. Game avionics mode removed So you want to go back to an earlier version. In your position I'd ask myself if it was worth it. DCS is always overwhelming to get into but if you just learn to focus on learning to fly and use the autopilots (if available) really well first then learning other systems becomes a lot easier. Certainly don't try to learn it all at once. That is a recipe for frustration! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeCuvier Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 I didn't realize Game Avionics Mode was removed. I understand some people will not like that, but I belong to those who always considered it a nuisance. I see that the related "Easy" command bindings are gone as well, and that's really good news in my opinion because they caused confusion. Yes, learning DCS world is a big task and can seem overwhelming for beginners. But you don't need to understand everything immediately. Go step by step, with one aircraft, exercise the things you understand and make sure you have some fun. I'm flying in DCS World (starting with Lock On) since many years and I cannot pretend I know everything about it. So I'm still learning new things and that's wonderful. And I use the forum when I'm stuck with something. The forum is very helpful. 3 LeCuvier Windows 10 Pro 64Bit | i7-4790 CPU |16 GB RAM|SSD System Disk|SSD Gaming Disk| MSI GTX-1080 Gaming 8 GB| Acer XB270HU | TM Warthog HOTAS | VKB Gladiator Pro | MongoosT-50 | MFG Crosswind Pedals | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution draconus Posted May 12, 2023 Solution Share Posted May 12, 2023 10 hours ago, Dragon81 said: DCS_updater.exe update 2.8.1.34667.2@stable wrond command, should be DCS_updater.exe update 2.8.1.34667.2@release 1 Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX3060 Rift S T16000M TWCS TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon81 Posted May 14, 2023 Author Share Posted May 14, 2023 On 5/12/2023 at 5:51 AM, draconus said: wrond command, should be DCS_updater.exe update 2.8.1.34667.2@release That was it! THANK YOU SO MUCH! Belldandy - Core i5-9600k; 32gb RAM; RTX 2060; Sound Blaster Z Saitek X-56; Thrustmaster T16000m; Saitek Pro Flight Pedals; Rift S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon81 Posted May 14, 2023 Author Share Posted May 14, 2023 On 5/11/2023 at 10:11 PM, Thx1137 said: I assume you know that the patch notes says: Game Options. Game avionics mode removed So you want to go back to an earlier version. In your position I'd ask myself if it was worth it. DCS is always overwhelming to get into but if you just learn to focus on learning to fly and use the autopilots (if available) really well first then learning other systems becomes a lot easier. Certainly don't try to learn it all at once. That is a recipe for frustration! I didn't until I realized it wasn't there. That's when I tried to roll back to a previous version. On 5/12/2023 at 5:37 AM, LeCuvier said: I didn't realize Game Avionics Mode was removed. I understand some people will not like that, but I belong to those who always considered it a nuisance. I see that the related "Easy" command bindings are gone as well, and that's really good news in my opinion because they caused confusion. Yes, learning DCS world is a big task and can seem overwhelming for beginners. But you don't need to understand everything immediately. Go step by step, with one aircraft, exercise the things you understand and make sure you have some fun. I'm flying in DCS World (starting with Lock On) since many years and I cannot pretend I know everything about it. So I'm still learning new things and that's wonderful. And I use the forum when I'm stuck with something. The forum is very helpful. I've been flying the F-15C (FC3) I'm still in the process of finalizing my keybinds for the most part. That was overwhelming in and of itself. I've gotten better at flying, focusing heavily on my landings. I'm getting better, but I still struggle. The Game Avionics was the one thing I could rely on to keep me on course. Being that I'm still really new at this, I freaked out because that's the only way I know how to navigate for now. I know there are waypoints, but the indicator isn't helpful at all. half the time I don't even know if it's the right waypoint. GAM showed me the selected waypoint, so I knew I at least had the right one. It's really the only "game" mode I use. Everything else is set to Simulator. I didn't know about the easy commands, I never used them. I am always checking the forums here. I created an account to make this post, because I didn't see anyone discussing it. Thanks everyone who chimed in! Your help is greatly appreciated! 1 Belldandy - Core i5-9600k; 32gb RAM; RTX 2060; Sound Blaster Z Saitek X-56; Thrustmaster T16000m; Saitek Pro Flight Pedals; Rift S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draconus Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 6 hours ago, Dragon81 said: GAM showed me the selected waypoint, so I knew I at least had the right one. The selected waypoint number is right on the HUD in F-15C Nav mode. Check the kneeboard maps to see the flight plan. Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX3060 Rift S T16000M TWCS TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon81 Posted May 15, 2023 Author Share Posted May 15, 2023 17 hours ago, draconus said: The selected waypoint number is right on the HUD in F-15C Nav mode. Check the kneeboard maps to see the flight plan. Thanks for the tip! I'll definitely keep it in mind! Belldandy - Core i5-9600k; 32gb RAM; RTX 2060; Sound Blaster Z Saitek X-56; Thrustmaster T16000m; Saitek Pro Flight Pedals; Rift S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ema13 Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Hello, Is it possible to restore the Game avionics mode, it was really usefull Thanks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draconus Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 15 hours ago, ema13 said: Is it possible to restore the Game avionics mode, it was really usefull You can only use the older DCS version that still had that option. Look at the solution post. Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX3060 Rift S T16000M TWCS TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackd Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) On 5/19/2023 at 10:20 PM, ema13 said: Hello, Is it possible to restore the Game avionics mode, it was really usefull Thanks I would appreciate that too; i am a 'tourist';, certainly not a button and switching fan, and spend too much time figuring out any newly bought plane, certainly one big reason i start to avoid DCS more and more and rather spend my scarce time with other sims. Older versions? Bugs? Edited June 5, 2023 by jackd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draconus Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, jackd said: i am a 'tourist';, certainly not a button and switching fan, and spend too much time figuring out any newly bought plane Sounds like you'd have fun with Instant Action missions with hot starts or airstarts. There are also FC3 modules much lighter on the systems side. 1 Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX3060 Rift S T16000M TWCS TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts