AIRIO Dynamics Commands not working anymore

[MaverickGoose]

Hello,
Vaicom is a really great tool for immersion. However it stop working fine for me.
l think have done all those steps however l still unable to use Dynamics commands.
l notice l was unable to use them since VaicomPro version 2.8.1.1 and while l m using DCS Stable version2.8.4.39731 at his end to version 2.8.7.42718 because l was training vaicom to reconize better my commands.
I do an upgrade to last VAICOM version but unfortunately it did not solve my problem. l m running DCS Stable version 2.8.7.42718
Also l m unable to use radio control commands.
Is anyone could help me solve this annoying problem please?
Note:  I never had problems with VaicomPro before DCS Stable 2.8.1.34667.2
Thank in advance

[MAXsenna]

Can you double check the extension is enabled? 

 

[MaverickGoose]

Yes it is. If l disable it l think l do not have any commands available

Edited August 12, 2023 by MaverickGoose

[MAXsenna]

I see you're pressing TX5, while you have enabled HOTMIC.
Are you in the F-14 when doing the test, because the AIRIO is working.
It's just telling you that you can't use the commands currently. So, either VAICOM doesn't register DCS, and no modules work, or it's a problem with the F-14.
You're third screenshot is too small so I can't see if any of the AIRIO that is not in keywords editor are missing. In any case you want these.

 

Edited August 12, 2023 by MAXsenna

[MaverickGoose]

l was not in DCS when l did test.
When you said third screenshot are you talking about this one in attachment?
l had new screenshot from VA history this time l was in F14 simple commands tacan off and TR have been ably well however it do not tune to Yankee 001 and any dynamics command including radio control commands

Edited August 12, 2023 by MaverickGoose

[MAXsenna]

Hi, sorry. Got busy.
I don't know why it doesn't work in the game, but everything in VoiceAttack, and VAICOM is connected to DCS.

[MaverickGoose]

Hello,
No worry for delay.
Well ok l m just wondering if l m alone in that such case. It could be interesting to have some news from @TimSell75 or anyone from community.

l got last question we never know is it possible for some reasons using the training module could interfere with dynamics commands?
For example when l say : " Tacan tune Xray 010" VA recognize it as Tacan tune 83010 and l think l have this result because some word's ban in Speech dictionary using section Prevent a word from being dictated.
Did you think it his possible?
Thank in advance

[MAXsenna]

No, it's not possible. VoiceAttack doesn't block any words, but I think Microsoft Speech Recognition might. I "think" because I believe I tested some swear words. Xray is not one of them. BUT if you added a word in the dictionary you want to be prevented, just remove it. Or do you mean you might have added a similar word. It's better in my opinion, it's better to just use VAICOM/VoiceAttack a LOT as Microsoft Speech learn your voice the more you use it, and the more success it has. 

What do you mean by dynamic commands? Haven't read the manual in a while. 

VoiceAttack doesn't do any recognition at all. Microsoft Speech Recognition does speech-to-text with recordings it gets from VoiceAttack.

So, in this particular scenario, you just have to practice "xray" a lot. 

How many times did you say you did the initial Microsoft Speech training? I'm not native English, so I did it 20. Yeees, it's boring but it paid off. And the more you use it, the better it gets. You said it worked before. Did you change microphone by chance? Then you have to do it all over again. That's just the way it is. 

Apologies if I misunderstood anything, couldn't sleep tonight and it's 0630 in the morning. 

Have a fantastic day!

[MaverickGoose]

Hello ok l m going to remove words l ban in Speech dictionnary and practice xray call
l m also not english native and honestely l did not count how many time l set Microsoft Speech Recognition but probably more than 10 and continue raising it.

For me Dynamic commands are 10 commands in extension packs l m going continue search why l cannot use them again since for you all is good.
Thx for your help, have worderfull day.
 

Edited August 17, 2023 by MaverickGoose

[MAXsenna]

1 hour ago, MaverickGoose said:

Hello ok l m going to remove words l ban in Speech dictionnary and practice xray call
l m also not english native and honestely l did count how many time l set Microsoft Speech Recognition but probably more than 10 and continue raising it.

For me Dynamic commands are 10 commands in extension packs l m going continue search why l cannot use them again since for you all is good.
Thx for your help, have worderfull day.
 

You too! Keep me updated!

[MaverickGoose]

Hello,
l have delected some words l have enter in the past in Speech Dictionary but it does not help me recover the entire VA use.
l notice also VA suffred regulary crash at use. l m not sure if log to study them can be find in VoiceAttackFault in case its in attachment.
I have use some VBA but a decade ago so l need translation please.

[bonesvf103]

I don't know if this helps any but I have had this happen in the past and it seems like it depends on the mission being run.  I don't know if it's a script thing or not, but, as an example, I was flying an Operation Scarlet Dawn mission in MP on a dedicated DCS server and none of the AIRIO commands were working.

However, if I went to a different MP server, or if I hosted an MP server, or if I played SP and/or used a stock or downloaded SP mission, AIRIO always worked.  So it led me to believe that it was something about the way the Operation Scarlet Dawn mission was written, and with the new DCS updates, got broken (AIRIO used to work on it).

Aside from AIRIO, I have also noticed that uncheckmarking "disable menus" is sometimes ignored depending on the mission.  If I say "Options" and the list comes up and then I say "Take 2", the menu will disappear as soon as I hit the PTT button to say Take 2, and I can't choose that option.  Unchecking "disable menus" will keep the menu up so that I can say "Take 2" and that usually works, but on certain missions it will not and the menu will disappear regardless of VAICOM Pro's disable menus checkbox is left unchecked.

So, keep that in mind.  It is also probably why people like Reflected advise against using VAICOM Pro/VA with their missions because it messes with it, or doesn't work well with VA, so you have to kind of just run a mission and hope it will be OK.  Sometimes, it's just a mission that doesn't play nicely with a third party app.

v6,

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[MaverickGoose]

Hi Thank you for your interesting information l will check that. Endeed those last most l mainly do MP so l m going to check that since last test l did was to go in MP (same server l always join) without Vaicom running the standard Heatblur menu was working fine for commands.

[Edit]
I test in SP with no positif result (even with fresh mission built no Moose script) using vaicom 2.8.5 and did one in my usual MP server after updated to vaicom 2.9.0.5 (l saw it was available) still dead.

Edited November 16, 2023 by MaverickGoose

[MaverickGoose]

Hi l did a dcs repair and place all append file in each file. l notice that navigate steerpoint 1 is automatically send to wingman 1 even l use Goose as recipient call
Dynamics commands still in dayoff


Also have VA crash can we learn in voiceaattackfault what is wrong?
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
   at VAICOM.UI.ConfigWindow.CheckBoxHotMic()
   at VAICOM.UI.ConfigWindow.SetConfigEnableRIO_ICShotmic_useswitch(Object sender, RoutedEventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.EventRoute.InvokeHandlersImpl(Object source, RoutedEventArgs args, Boolean reRaised)
   at System.Windows.UIElement.RaiseEventImpl(DependencyObject sender, RoutedEventArgs args)
   at System.Windows.Controls.Primitives.ToggleButton.OnIsCheckedChanged(DependencyObject d, DependencyPropertyChangedEventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.DependencyObject.OnPropertyChanged(DependencyPropertyChangedEventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.FrameworkElement.OnPropertyChanged(DependencyPropertyChangedEventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.DependencyObject.NotifyPropertyChange(DependencyPropertyChangedEventArgs args)
   at System.Windows.DependencyObject.UpdateEffectiveValue(EntryIndex entryIndex, DependencyProperty dp, PropertyMetadata metadata, EffectiveValueEntry oldEntry, EffectiveValueEntry& newEntry, Boolean coerceWithDeferredReference, Boolean coerceWithCurrentValue, OperationType operationType)
   at System.Windows.DependencyObject.SetValueCommon(DependencyProperty dp, Object value, PropertyMetadata metadata, Boolean coerceWithDeferredReference, Boolean coerceWithCurrentValue, OperationType operationType, Boolean isInternal)
   at System.Windows.Controls.Primitives.ToggleButton.set_IsChecked(Nullable`1 value)
   at System.Windows.FrameworkElement.RaiseInitialized(EventPrivateKey key, EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.FrameworkElement.TryFireInitialized()
   at MS.Internal.Xaml.Runtime.ClrObjectRuntime.InitializationGuard(XamlType xamlType, Object obj, Boolean begin)
   at System.Xaml.XamlObjectWriter.Logic_EndInit(ObjectWriterContext ctx)
   at System.Xaml.XamlObjectWriter.WriteEndObject()
   at System.Windows.Markup.WpfXamlLoader.TransformNodes(XamlReader xamlReader, XamlObjectWriter xamlWriter, Boolean onlyLoadOneNode, Boolean skipJournaledProperties, Boolean shouldPassLineNumberInfo, IXamlLineInfo xamlLineInfo, IXamlLineInfoConsumer xamlLineInfoConsumer, XamlContextStack`1 stack, IStyleConnector styleConnector)
   at System.Windows.Markup.WpfXamlLoader.Load(XamlReader xamlReader, IXamlObjectWriterFactory writerFactory, Boolean skipJournaledProperties, Object rootObject, XamlObjectWriterSettings settings, Uri baseUri)
   at System.Windows.Markup.WpfXamlLoader.LoadBaml(XamlReader xamlReader, Boolean skipJournaledProperties, Object rootObject, XamlAccessLevel accessLevel, Uri baseUri)
   at System.Windows.Markup.XamlReader.LoadBaml(Stream stream, ParserContext parserContext, Object parent, Boolean closeStream)
   at VAICOM.UI.ConfigWindow..ctor()
   at VAICOM.UI.Initialize.StartConfigWindow(Object resetwindow)
   at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.RunInternal(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state, Boolean preserveSyncCtx)
   at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state, Boolean preserveSyncCtx)
   at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
   at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart(Object obj)
***VoiceAttack v1.10.6 - Windows 10.0.19045.0
Plugin assemblies:
VAICOM PRO Community Edition for DCS World [VAICOMPRO.dll] (enabled) - Last call: 19 Nov 2023 01:04:59:33 VA_Invoke1

Edited November 19, 2023 by MaverickGoose

[MAXsenna]

For VoiceAttack errors it's best to ask in the VoiceAttack Discord.
If you start VoiceAttack with the VAICOM.exe, it will restart VoiceAttack whenever it crashes.

On 11/19/2023 at 6:32 PM, MaverickGoose said:

Hi l did a dcs repair and place all append file in each file. l notice that navigate steerpoint 1 is automatically send to wingman 1 even l use Goose as recipient call
Dynamics commands still in dayoff

Could you elaborate? Have you made some custom commands with the VAICOM plugin?

[MaverickGoose]

2 hours ago, MAXsenna said:

If you start VoiceAttack with the VAICOM.exe, it will restart VoiceAttack whenever it crashes.

Hi thank you for information l will try to keep that in mind.
 

2 hours ago, MAXsenna said:

Could you elaborate? Have you made some custom commands with the VAICOM plugin?

Yes l did adding custom commands for Pilot and RIO name or order to ground crew then l always hit Finish button to copy them in Voice Attack profile. Is l did it wrong or did it maybe cause all my current issue?

 

Edited November 30, 2023 by MaverickGoose

[MaverickGoose]

Hello,
l m still not solve my issue with Vaicom and dynamics commands not working.
l have delected some words and nothing change. So l find on internet location to delect files in relation with speed recognition (link below) l have delecte them but the dictionnary still running in Vaicom with all word l add why?
Add or Remove Words in Spell Checking Dictionary in Windows 10 | Tutorials (tenforums.com)
Did Vaicom save words we add in other location if yes which one it is please (l want to avoid to reset windows just for that )
Thanks in advance

[MAXsenna]

Hello,
l m still not solve my issue with Vaicom and dynamics commands not working.
l have delected some words and nothing change. So l find on internet location to delect files in relation with speed recognition (link below) l have delecte them but the dictionnary still running in Vaicom with all word l add why?
Add or Remove Words in Spell Checking Dictionary in Windows 10 | Tutorials (tenforums.com)
Did Vaicom save words we add in other location if yes which one it is please (l want to avoid to reset windows just for that )
Thanks in advance

VAICOM nor VoiceAttack controls the Microsoft Speech Recognition files. If you make a new speech profile, you need repeat the training in the speech recognition app. When you do the training through VAICOM, it still uses the speech recognition app. So, I'm not sure if speech files are added.
Cheers!

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