DmitriKozlowsky 发布于2024年6月2日 发布于2024年6月2日 Well... I want to say B.S., but I won't. I am sort of thinking they are nonsensical. They dont work. Dept. tables for guns and rockets work fine. But for bombs. Not really, not for me. Low level delivery of retarded bombs. 420 knots, 5-10 deg dive, 150 dpr., or max 200 depr, 700 AGL release. Even with pipper well ahead of target, the bombs impact well short. It makes no sense. I am almost overflying the target, and release when tgt is below bottom of HUD and cant be seem, and weapons stil fall well short. The tracks are too large to upload.
felixx75 发布于2024年6月2日 发布于2024年6月2日 Which bomb tables are you talking about? There are very few in the manual and none for retarded bombs...
DmitriKozlowsky 发布于2024年6月2日 楼主 发布于2024年6月2日 The general rule for sight depression table. The shallower the dive angle or near level delivery, the high the depression angle. Ret. bombs need even more depression. Release speed shpould 400, 420 , or 450. Very seldom should bombs be released above that velocity. In dive you need airbrakes out. I started with 50, which works great for guns, gunpods, and SNEBs with 420 knots , 1-5 deg dive, and 1/2 nm or less slant distance to tgt. Even then in F1, its like firing a shotgun from hip, at 50 or 100 meter target on gunrange. The spread is so large in F1. Probably by design. Mirage F1 AG is an area attack weapon. Aeriial MLRS. One pass, covers a 1/2 km grid square.
felixx75 发布于2024年6月3日 发布于2024年6月3日 (已编辑) I still don't understand what you're actually talking about, or what your problem is... How bombs fall is not a matter of the airplane, but of physics. If there were problems with the trajectory of bombs, that would be a task for ED, as everything concerning weapons that are in the air is a matter for ED alone. 本帖最后于2024年6月3日，由felixx75编辑 1
DmitriKozlowsky 发布于2024年6月4日 楼主 发布于2024年6月4日 The depression angle, we set in cokpit, is what we have for sight. We dont CCIP or CCRP, or radar bombing. Depression settings have to be predictable for aircraft attitude and altitude , with respect to target, to be usefull. I found that depression settings for freefall and balute bombs to be nonsense! They don't work. Bombs fall so far off target, either short or long, as to be useless. Well,at least to me. For freefall bombs, sight depression of 150 should be used for following aircraft attitude. 4000 feet above target 420 knots speed 15 degree dive 150 mil depression, 20 deg. dive ; 100 mil depression. Mill iis a milliradian. There are 6400 miliradians in a circle. So its a really fine unit of measurement. 1.8 km or about 1 nm slant distance from target. When those conditions are met at release, bombs should impact near the target within 100 meters. Well within blast radius. I get nothing even remotely close.
felixx75 发布于2024年6月4日 发布于2024年6月4日 I have to admit that I don't know exactly whether depression tables are universally valid, but I don't think they are. But in the manual there are tables for the 250kg (~500lbs) low drag bombs, for example. Why not just use these? There are also more than enough valid tables in the User Files section. These are from the manual, page 193
DmitriKozlowsky 发布于2024年6月4日 楼主 发布于2024年6月4日 (已编辑) This table does not work for me at all, when it comes to freefall and ret bombs. Guns , gunpod, and rocket SNEB table depressions are good. 本帖最后于2024年6月4日，由DmitriKozlowsky编辑
Criticale2orr 发布于2024年6月4日 发布于2024年6月4日 (已编辑) I’m fairly certain that ED updated (?) bomb physics, and hence any and all values in the given depression tables are wrong (for bombs). I’m sure Aerges will update them, but they’re probably pretty busy getting the F1M done (and other systems for the C, E, and B). If I recall correctly, try adding 44 mils… May help 本帖最后于2024年6月4日，由Criticale2orr编辑
Coragem 发布于2024年6月4日 发布于2024年6月4日 7 minutes ago, Criticale2orr said: I’m fairly certain that ED updated (?) bomb physics, and hence any and all values in the given depression tables are wrong (for bombs). I’m sure Aerges will update them, but they’re probably pretty busy getting the F1M done (and other systems for the C, E, and B). If I recall correctly, try adding 44 mils… May help Yeah this helps. @DmitriKozlowsky you can also try using the profiles armapirx uses on this video. Most of them are pretty good. 1
IvanK 发布于2024年7月12日 发布于2024年7月12日 The 44mills correction was a Datum line issue that was corrected by Aerges Eons ago, so is no longer applicable.
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