Spider76 Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 OT: means Off Topic but i´m trying too get a "picture" of tommorws heli´s in out of theres place of such battlefield .. im getting some thought that in the of helis that in 2020 or that time frame that so helis would be replaced by UAV´s or such dummy flying thingy´s why i see that come because: 1. rah-66 was canceled and they say that UAV´s are cheaper .. 2. Washington Post subsequently reported: "In attacking a formation of about 40 Apache Longbows on Monday, the Iraqis staged a classic helicopter ambush first perfected by the North Vietnamese in the 1960s. As the lethal, tank-killing aircraft approached on a mission to destroy the Medina Division's dispersed armor, troops dispersed throughout a palm-lined residential area and opened fire with antiaircraft guns, rocket-propelled grenades and a wall of fire from rifles and other small arms. ... "The Iraqi fire was so intense that the Apaches had to break off their mission and return to base." above text: if you judge the future of heli´s in combat field then it looks grim.. but i see a fatal error above why does heli pilot come so close to enemy that their heli is at gun point? heli´s shoud attack from 8 km´s or so..where this data come up? you cannot make a budject desicion of one failure in of a combat mission of one ..i hope get this.. how you see the future of combat helis in of the future 2020? is the future so cruel and grim for heli´s? ps. i got that understaning that RAH-66 was canceld cos it was thought that they are cheaper for such tasks..the UAV´s (check what wiki information about it) so is it the going to be UAV´s or such a like the future of aviation arial combat..? is F-22 program the last pilot machine by human ... is future grim for helicopters ? if not what future models like? ::ASRock 4Core1333::Intel Quad Q6600 2.4 GHZ::OCZ DDR2 Reaper HPC Edition 4 GB::Club3D 9800GT 1GB Green Edition::Acer LCD 19":: Nexus 400W::Vista Ultimate SP2::Saitek X36F & X35T Joystick::Youtube::Spider´s Channel::Suomi-Finland :-) ::
Spider76 Posted April 30, 2009 Author Posted April 30, 2009 (edited) OT: means Off Topic but i´m trying too get a "picture" of tommorws heli´s in out of theres place of such battlefield .. im getting some thought that in the of helis that in 2020 or that time frame that so helis would be replaced by UAV´s or such dummy flying thingy´s why i see that come because: 1. rah-66 was canceled and they say that UAV´s are cheaper .. 2. Washington Post subsequently reported: "In attacking a formation of about 40 Apache Longbows on Monday, the Iraqis staged a classic helicopter ambush first perfected by the North Vietnamese in the 1960s. As the lethal, tank-killing aircraft approached on a mission to destroy the Medina Division's dispersed armor, troops dispersed throughout a palm-lined residential area and opened fire with antiaircraft guns, rocket-propelled grenades and a wall of fire from rifles and other small arms. ... "The Iraqi fire was so intense that the Apaches had to break off their mission and return to base." above text: if you judge the future of heli´s in combat field then it looks grim.. but i see a fatal error above why does heli pilot come so close to enemy that their heli is at gun point? heli´s shoud attack from 8 km´s or so..where this data come up? you cannot make a budject desicion of one failure in of a combat mission of one ..i hope get this.. how you see the future of combat helis in of the future 2020? is the future so cruel and grim for heli´s? ps. i got that understaning that RAH-66 was canceld cos it was thought that they are cheaper for such tasks..the UAV´s (check what wiki information about it) so is it the going to be UAV´s or such a like the future of aviation arial combat..? is F-22 program the last pilot machine by human ... is future grim for helicopters ? if not what future models like? i love aviation Hornets an tomacts and heli´s i dont want them dummy replaeced by UAV´s .. Edited April 30, 2009 by Spider76 ::ASRock 4Core1333::Intel Quad Q6600 2.4 GHZ::OCZ DDR2 Reaper HPC Edition 4 GB::Club3D 9800GT 1GB Green Edition::Acer LCD 19":: Nexus 400W::Vista Ultimate SP2::Saitek X36F & X35T Joystick::Youtube::Spider´s Channel::Suomi-Finland :-) ::
Spider76 Posted April 30, 2009 Author Posted April 30, 2009 maybe im jumpi about around (subject) it but as one failure cant be a statement to cancel or death sentece to such aviation platoon or regiment .. long live heli´s and aviation .. ::ASRock 4Core1333::Intel Quad Q6600 2.4 GHZ::OCZ DDR2 Reaper HPC Edition 4 GB::Club3D 9800GT 1GB Green Edition::Acer LCD 19":: Nexus 400W::Vista Ultimate SP2::Saitek X36F & X35T Joystick::Youtube::Spider´s Channel::Suomi-Finland :-) ::
LastRifleRound Posted May 1, 2009 Posted May 1, 2009 Helicopters are ambushed just like columns of armor or marching infantry: on the way to, not at, their destination. In order to ambush a unit, you must know it is coming. The question becomes, how did they know the Apaches were on their way? Either they were tipped off by someone in a town further down the line, or they were picked up on radar, etc. Fact is, Gulf War I began with a deepstrike helo raid that basically crippled the Iraqi EWR network. The first shot fired in desert storm was a hellfire missile of an Apache gunship.
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