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All the info on the mig-29C (9.13) states that this plane can carry up to 6 rvv-ae (R-77) missiles, why can I load only 4 of them on the mig-29C in lomac?

 

Can you give some link to related page?? If I m correct MiG-29S "Fulcrum-C" can carry only 4 R-77 missiles.

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It doesn't mention r77 here at all:

 

Вооружение:

 

одна 30-мм встроенная пушка ГШ-301 с боекомплектом 150 патронов

2-4 УРВВ Р-27Р и до 6 Р-73 или Р-60М

бомбы 250- или 500-кг, контейнер КМГУ

НАР 80 С-8 в блоках Б-8М1 и С-24Б

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It doesn't mention r77 here at all:

 

Вооружение:

 

одна 30-мм встроенная пушка ГШ-301 с боекомплектом 150 патронов

2-4 УРВВ Р-27Р и до 6 Р-73 или Р-60М

бомбы 250- или 500-кг, контейнер КМГУ

НАР 80 С-8 в блоках Б-8М1 и С-24Б

 

Get back to the main page and then enter in English version you will find 6 RVVAE to the Mig29

 

But the site also say teh Su-33 also can carry 6 RVVAE

 

so what is wrong ! i really dont know

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Get back to the main page and then enter in English version you will find 6 RVVAE to the Mig29

 

But the site also say teh Su-33 also can carry 6 RVVAE

 

so what is wrong ! i really dont know

 

Well, the problem is, in the text they claim it CAN carry 6 r77's, but if u scroll down the list and get to the "Armament" sheet, you will see there is NO mention of R77.

 

Maybe we should wait for Alfa (and the Flankerheads :D ) to clarify this.. ;)

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this looks like a quite reliable source (ignore the pop-ups)

 

http://www.hostultra.com/~migalley/mig29.html

 

I know of different sites, but I lack the time to search for them.

 

 

"MiG-29 (Factory index 9.13; 'Fulcrum-C'): First flown 4 May 1984; generally as 'Fulcrum-A', but introduced deeply curved top to fuselage aft of cockpit to house additional avionics, including L-203BE Gardeniya 1 FU active jammer; internal fuel capacity increased by 75 litres (20.0 US gallons; 17.0 Imp gallons); 1,500 litre (396 US gallon; 330 Imp gallon) underbelly fuel tank optional; weapons load increased to 3,200 kg (7,055 lb). Ammunition shellcase disposal modified to avoid centreline tank, allowing gun-firing with tank in place; auxiliary RWR/ECM antennas added to wingtips, and weapon control system improved. Three prototypes converted from standard 'Batch 4' MiG-29s; trials reportedly began April 1984. About 207 built from 1986 (beginning at serial number 05560). No 'Fulcrum-C' exports, although some were 'inherited' by independent republics on dissolution of USSR."

 

"MiG-29S (Factory index 9.13S; 'Fulcrum-C'): Multistage upgrade of type 9.13; initially with external load increased to 4,000 kg (8,818 lb) and with provision for two 1,150 litre (304 US gallon; 253 Imp gallon) underwing fuel tanks; these later added to some Russian 9.12s and 9.13s. Maximum fuel with external tanks is 8,240 litres (2,177 US gallons; 1,813 Imp gallons) for maximum range of 1,565 n miles (2,900 km; 1,802 miles). AoA operating range increased to 28º; RLPK-29M N019M radar, detection range 54 n miles (100 km; 62 miles) against fighter-size targets; now, with N019ME radar, able to track 10 targets and engage two simultaneously. Offered with third-phase improvements now associated with MiG-29SD, SE and N. Able to carry two pairs of R-27R1, R-27RE1, R-27T1 or R-27TE1 and two to six R-73E AAMs; up to six RVV-AE (R-77; AA-12 "Adder") AAMs after radar upgrade, or up to 4,000 kg (8,820 lb) of bombs; two or four S-24B 240 mm rockets, two or four B-8M1 packs of 20 S-8 80 mm rockets, ZAB-500 napalm tanks or BKF cluster bombs, in addition to standard GSh-301 gun. Some features of trials aircraft first flown 5 May 1984; first true prototype flew 23 December 1990. Maximum T-O weight 19,700 kg (43,430 lb). Two regiments in former East Germany fully equipped with first phase aircraft before Russian withdrawal."

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Hi,

 

The R-77 and its APU-170 launcher rail can be attached to any wingstation that can hold the R-73. Swingkids´s photo doesnt lie :)

 

So the MiG-29S can carry R-77s on all six wingstations (MiG-29M and MiG-29K can carry 8) - I dont know why this isnt the case in Lock-on, but it is easily fixed :)

 

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Well, no, by editing meint, it does work in 1.02, but in 1.1 the meint of the server will be the one that every client obeys, so we won't get the real loadout.

I'm basing this on the meint of the 1.1 demo (have you noticed that the su-39 will carry r-77s with the kopyo pod?)

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Well, no, by editing meint, it does work in 1.02, but in 1.1 the meint of the server will be the one that every client obeys, so we won't get the real loadout.

 

I know - I meant it would be easy to fix prior to release, but I dont know if it is too late at this stage. I will ask around :)

 

have you noticed that the su-39 will carry r-77s with the kopyo pod?

 

LOL - yes I think you can say that Force_Feedback - I put it there ;)

 

http://forum.lockon.ru/showthread.php?t=6803&page=2&highlight=su-25tm

 

Cheers,

- JJ

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Hi,

 

The R-77 and its APU-170 launcher rail can be attached to any wingstation that can hold the R-73. Swingkids´s photo doesnt lie :)

 

So the MiG-29S can carry R-77s on all six wingstations (MiG-29M and MiG-29K can carry 8) - I dont know why this isnt the case in Lock-on, but it is easily fixed :)

 

Cheers,

- Jens

 

Well is this fixed in 1.1 ??

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What, you didn't like the photo?

 

002286.jpg

 

-SK

 

Why is the nose cone different on the outer missiles? Doesn't this usually indicate a different guidance system? Or are they just dummies ('cos of the colour) design to fool everyone into thinking it can carry 6?

 

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Well is this fixed in 1.1 ??

 

No unfortunately this issue was forgotten along the way, and it is too late to make the changes now with 1.1 being so close to release.

 

However, I am told that, if a patch for 1.1 is released at a later point, the issue will be addressed.

 

Cheers,

- JJ.

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Why is the nose cone different on the outer missiles? Doesn't this usually indicate a different guidance system? Or are they just dummies ('cos of the colour) design to fool everyone into thinking it can carry 6?

 

James

 

The red colour indicates that the missiles are "dummies" as you call them, but the APU-170 launcher rails on which they are mounted are not ;) . I dont know why the radome has a different colour on the inner missiles.

 

But as mentioned earlier, the R-77 and associated launcher can be mounted at wing stations that can hold the R-73, so the colouring shouldnt fool anyone :)

 

Cheers,

- JJ.

JJ

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